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this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:44 pm
by Timonk

Bottom post of the previous page:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36005

they banned my boy gupta for gibbing someone while antagonist during a recycled pro skub vs anti skub event

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:24 pm
by Jacquerel
Their ability to antagonise isn't tied to objectives either

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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:27 pm
by DaBoss
Jacquerel wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:24 pm Their ability to antagonise isn't tied to objectives either
Then explain the ban that happened when some chef made detective burgers, because to me it seems like they were explicitly banned because this doesn't advance their 'frame a crewmember' or 'survive' objectives. It seems like those objectives are very real constraints on what the antag is allowed to do!

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:30 pm
by Jacquerel
admin was having a bad day probably or forgot what the mrp rules actually are
wasn't any reason to mention the objectives in that thread, they have zero relevance

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:09 pm
by DrAmazing343
MooCow12 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:58 am i think the vast majority of (successful) antagonists have learned to adapt to a very mobile playstyle because thats the best way to deal with being hunted down and outnumbered, you automatically avoid most confrontations but you have no hard assets that you can consistently take advantage of, youre more reliant on whatever you pick up from this nomadic playstyle.
I think that this is a very excellent little write-up; I haven't considered this much before, but unless my base is VERY VERY secluded or secured to an insane degree, it really has been a nomadic antag sort of dealio. Cut off by your own department once loud, forced to scrounge materials— it's really quite fun, and yes, one of the only ways I've been able to succeed, but I do wonder if I COULD set up a base and still win as antag sometime... Inspirational.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:15 pm
by Drag
DaBoss wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 3:17 pm Which is meaningless if your ability to antagonise tied to their objectives, which are goon style untracked 'throw a birthday party for the captain but poison the cake' trash and survive the round. What the fuck do you do with the 3 rocket launchers and 2 syndie bombs you get given except get banned using them.
Imagination issue

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:27 pm
by Vekter
If you try starting a war over pro/anti skub, I reserve the right to explode your head for it.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:36 pm
by Archie700
Vekter wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 4:27 pm If you try starting a war over pro/anti skub, I reserve the right to explode your head for it.
From what I heard it was a skub event so eh

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:55 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
Seven day ban for gibbing security as a traitor chef? What the fuck?

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 8:33 pm
by Donglesplonge
why would you willingly chase a chef into his kitchen, you are asking to lose that fight, its like chasing a wounded nukie back onto their ship, yes its possible and you can win doing it, but you are playing with a fire which will net you the 3rd degree i just can't fathom it

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:49 pm
by Scriptis
this is the kind of behavior i want on sybil because it would continue escalating until at least a dozen people were dead and the kitchen was in space and everyone would be laughing their asses off

gupta is not manuel material that's pretty much the end of it

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 9:52 pm
by Scriptis
tl;dr: make spaceman lives more disposable. round removal should be ok and i'm tired of pretending it isn't

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:01 pm
by winterseasalt
manuel is so confusing because gupta gets banned for RRing someone as antag yet i see antags RRing all the time? RR sucks but come on he had every right to do it, hes an antag ffs, how is this even up for debate

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:08 pm
by BonChoi
winterseasalt wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:01 pm manuel is so confusing because gupta gets banned for RRing someone as antag yet i see antags RRing all the time? RR sucks but come on he had every right to do it, hes an antag ffs, how is this even up for debate
Because some antags are restricted to how and when they can kill and others are not, also some antags have different objectives that can warrant RRing and some do not.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:20 pm
by MooCow12
And admins clearly arn't all on the same page in the game of exceptions and context.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:09 pm
by Blacklist897
gupta has peak roleplay and loseing him to sybil would be horrid '
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuFv_U0JQes

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:46 pm
by EmpressMaia
Blacklist897 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:09 pm gupta has peak roleplay and loseing him to sybil would be horrid '
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuFv_U0JQes
he primarily plays on sybil and sometimes comes to manuel

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:11 am
by iwishforducks
gra

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:32 am
by Timonk
me when i type like thi- fuck why am i even typing like thi- HELP I CANT STO-

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:17 am
by Togopal
Blacklist897 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:09 pm gupta has peak roleplay and loseing him to sybil would be horrid '
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuFv_U0JQes
Honestly agreed, Gupta needs to stay on his home server Manuel. Please try to make things more comfortable for hIm

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:32 pm
by Jonathan Gupta
Togopal wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:17 am
Blacklist897 wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:09 pm gupta has peak roleplay and loseing him to sybil would be horrid '
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuFv_U0JQes
Honestly agreed, Gupta needs to stay on his home server Manuel. Please try to make things more comfortable for hIm
:paper: :pen:

Dear my pal, togopal. You seem to have said this is a 'event' yes I suppose you can call this failure of a project a 'event' when my hatred blooms upon a hundred fires you can say to yourself "Where did thoust admin complaint goest?"

It went where all good things go to lie, your mother's bedside. Please check the drawer to the left and take my regards as so.

Sincerely, Jonathon J Gupta.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 5:42 pm
by DrAmazing343
I love this guy like what is he saying heeeheee

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:47 pm
by Kendrickorium
Timonk wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:44 pm viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36005

they banned my boy gupta for gibbing someone while antagonist during a recycled pro skub vs anti skub event
4/10 thread title

gupta please read craigs guide on how to be unbanned

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:04 pm
by Kendrickorium
also ive seen guptas """"""""""""""roleplay"""""""""""""" on shiptest

gupta you should roleplay a sane person one of these days

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:07 pm
by Kendrickorium
love you

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Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:58 pm
by TheRex9001
Thanks Kendrick for calling out how bad this thread title is

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:39 pm
by Kendrickorium
TheRex9001 wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:58 pm Thanks Kendrick for calling out how bad this thread title is
timonk is probably one of the worst at this and has learned nothing in years

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:47 pm
by Timonk
Kendrickorium wrote: Mon Apr 01, 2024 6:47 pm
Timonk wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 8:44 pm viewtopic.php?f=7&t=36005

they banned my boy gupta for gibbing someone while antagonist during a recycled pro skub vs anti skub event
4/10 thread title

gupta please read craigs guide on how to be unbanned
i meant every word

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:47 pm
by Timonk
i will continue to make bad thread titles you will never stop me

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:11 am
by Dax Dupont
As much of a terrible player Gupta is, this ban feels unjustified

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:18 am
by Timonk
Dax Dupont wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:11 am As much of a terrible player Gupta is, this ban feels unjustified
how dare you insult my boy gupta like that
hes the greatest player in tg history, even outshining lexia "i murder everyone" black

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:20 am
by Dax Dupont
Timonk wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:18 am
Dax Dupont wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:11 am As much of a terrible player Gupta is, this ban feels unjustified
how dare you insult my boy gupta like that
hes the greatest player in tg history, even outshining lexia "i murder everyone" black
That honor goes to 2beard

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:45 am
by Higgin
Dax Dupont wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:20 am
Timonk wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:18 am
Dax Dupont wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:11 am As much of a terrible player Gupta is, this ban feels unjustified
how dare you insult my boy gupta like that
hes the greatest player in tg history, even outshining lexia "i murder everyone" black
That honor goes to 2beard
nah, Free Tonto

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:46 am
by Timonk
Dax Dupont wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:20 am
Timonk wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:18 am
Dax Dupont wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:11 am As much of a terrible player Gupta is, this ban feels unjustified
how dare you insult my boy gupta like that
hes the greatest player in tg history, even outshining lexia "i murder everyone" black
That honor goes to 2beard
if we are really nominating greatest shitters of all time in our community i would have a very hard time to actually nominating a singular person.
for a start i would like to nominate
Rshoe and his simp Wsock for actually keeping the admins on their feet with their ban evading for some years. i believe Rshoe is also the source for the "Admins are abusing me" roundend sound
Shezza for actually subverting like half the admin team at some point and writing one of the funniest delusional ban appeals i have seen
and Legoscape who after being perma banned from tg, moved onto EVE online and got shunned from there too and got a news artice written about him. if you want to have a laugh, google Bneish Rankor. thats the guy. Legoscape made a very funny ban appeal here too.

Honorable mention to Don Karma for featuring me in a murderbone cheating video < admins feel free to redact this if his antics are still too fresh

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:57 am
by conrad
Ned L with a refusal to take that L making it XL.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:47 am
by Timonk
conrad wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:57 am Ned L with a refusal to take that L making it XL.
i feel like ned is kind of a dramatic person in general

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:46 am
by EmpressMaia
Timonk wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:47 am
conrad wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:57 am Ned L with a refusal to take that L making it XL.
i feel like ned is kind of a dramatic person in general
Maybe they were a theater kid

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:07 pm
by Kendrickorium
i really miss paris

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:30 pm
by Omega_DarkPotato
EmpressMaia wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:46 am
Timonk wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:47 am
conrad wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:57 am Ned L with a refusal to take that L making it XL.
i feel like ned is kind of a dramatic person in general
Maybe they were a theater kid
you can dislike the ban and behavior of the admin without having to insult the admin personally, smdh

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:43 pm
by Timonk
Omega_DarkPotato wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:30 pm
EmpressMaia wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:46 am
Timonk wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:47 am
conrad wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:57 am Ned L with a refusal to take that L making it XL.
i feel like ned is kind of a dramatic person in general
Maybe they were a theater kid
you can dislike the ban and behavior of the admin without having to insult the admin personally, smdh
i wasnt even talking about the ban in particular, it just appears to me that he is very dramatic with his actions. remember when statbus was "gone"? then after some months he decided to put it back up? like i understand his reasoning behind it, he doesnt owe us a stat page for free, but i believe he has done that multiple times now.

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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:44 pm
by kinnebian
Why is this a week ban
and why is my freegupta hastag not a joke anymore!!

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:28 pm
by Omega_DarkPotato
Timonk wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:43 pm
Omega_DarkPotato wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:30 pm
EmpressMaia wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:46 am
Timonk wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:47 am i feel like ned is kind of a dramatic person in general
Maybe they were a theater kid
you can dislike the ban and behavior of the admin without having to insult the admin personally, smdh
i wasnt even talking about the ban in particular, it just appears to me that he is very dramatic with his actions. remember when statbus was "gone"? then after some months he decided to put it back up? like i understand his reasoning behind it, he doesnt owe us a stat page for free, but i believe he has done that multiple times now.
my comment was half-joking about how being called a theater kid is a grave insult

I'm not going to make statements about how I feel about Ned as a person as this isn't a place to do so, but I do think that this ban shouldn't have been placed tbh
a pro / anti skub "event" is bottom-of-the-barrel effort and quality, sure, but it's also a genuine attempt nonetheless at doing something interesting with your antagonist status beyond just being a NPC following preset objectives. We (administrators) should foster this and seek to see it improve, rather than stamping it out fervently for not being perfect from the get-go.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:32 pm
by TheRex9001
Omega_DarkPotato wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:28 pm
Timonk wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:43 pm Snip
my comment was half-joking about how being called a theater kid is a grave insult

I'm not going to make statements about how I feel about Ned as a person as this isn't a place to do so, but I do think that this ban shouldn't have been placed tbh
a pro / anti skub "event" is bottom-of-the-barrel effort and quality, sure, but it's also a genuine attempt nonetheless at doing something interesting with your antagonist status beyond just being a NPC following preset objectives. We (administrators) should foster this and seek to see it improve, rather than stamping it out fervently for not being perfect from the get-go.
Just to clarify, the skub thing is a station trait, not an admin event. I didnt know if you already knew this or not but the effort part kinda made me think it was, though I might be mistaken.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:36 pm
by Omega_DarkPotato
TheRex9001 wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:32 pm Just to clarify, the skub thing is a station trait, not an admin event. I didnt know if you already knew this or not but the effort part kinda made me think it was, though I might be mistaken.
I had assumed it was something gupta was doing himself. Damn! Guess this is a lot less interesting now, you hate to see it.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:49 pm
by Timonk
Omega_DarkPotato wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:36 pm
TheRex9001 wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:32 pm Just to clarify, the skub thing is a station trait, not an admin event. I didnt know if you already knew this or not but the effort part kinda made me think it was, though I might be mistaken.
I had assumed it was something gupta was doing himself. Damn! Guess this is a lot less interesting now, you hate to see it.
i assumed it was an event too. but what the station trait does is spawn everyone either as pro skub or anti skub. pro skub have pro skub stickers and anti skub have anti skub stickers

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:12 pm
by NecromancerAnne
I ran skub events before they were codified. And I nearly crashed the server because of it.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:51 pm
by DrAmazing343
NecromancerAnne wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 7:12 pm I ran skub events before they were codified. And I nearly crashed the server because of it.
The Colossal Skub Incident, circa. last month sometime probably.
Millions died.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:01 pm
by BonChoi
Upheld but reduced to time served, seems like a good break for Gupta especially considering that the last headmins would've ripped him a new asshole.

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:40 pm
by Kendrickorium
Omega_DarkPotato wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:30 pm
EmpressMaia wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:46 am
Timonk wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:47 am
conrad wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:57 am Ned L with a refusal to take that L making it XL.
i feel like ned is kind of a dramatic person in general
Maybe they were a theater kid
you can dislike the ban and behavior of the admin without having to insult the admin personally, smdh
totally agreed man

in unrelated news the president sure is a doorknob

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:42 pm
by saprasam
round removing security officers, especially after you give them the exact details of what will happen if they fuck with you will never not be funny

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:17 pm
by BonChoi
saprasam wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:42 pm round removing security officers, especially after you give them the exact details of what will happen if they fuck with you will never not be funny
except the warning was given after the detective was RR'd

Re: this is what happens when you play on m*nu*el

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:25 pm
by Constellado
BonChoi wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:17 pm
saprasam wrote: Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:42 pm round removing security officers, especially after you give them the exact details of what will happen if they fuck with you will never not be funny
except the warning was given after the detective was RR'd
Which makes the appeal really suspicious to me.

Its like he purposely lied to the admin and the players club by misrepresenting facts.

Bad Gupta. Bad.