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Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 8:19 am**

Too long, didn't read

Oh neat it's 2100 words

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 8:24 am**

Everyone seems to be ignoring the context of Manuel as a server. We've had papercode crashes, SQL crashes, the phrase "Manuel moment" exists to describe random Manuel crashes.

Someone hasn't been playing Terry.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 8:27 am**

FloranOtten wrote:
Everyone seems to be ignoring the context of Manuel as a server. We've had papercode crashes, SQL crashes, the phrase "Manuel moment" exists to describe random Manuel crashes.
Someone hasn't been playing Terry.

Do you even know what an event hall is mister

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 8:59 am**

It's a valid complaint and Rose needs to chill and be less of a fucking banbot. Somewhere in the rules there's a caveat that enforcement is at discretion of admins but should always be for the betterment of the round/community. Can you say with a straight face that banning 19 people because they're trying to change the nap and avoid reliving a horrendous waste of time in an unplayable round yet again is good for anyone except someone's ban quota?
How can you say "just go play 25 minutes and wait for the inevitable hammer to ruin your round and make it unplayable", honestly why bother? Nothing you start will come to fruition. Why is that map even in rotation with such a consistent and round breaking bug?

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 2:18 pm**

99% of admin complaint posts are stupid and bad but this dude is actually putting a lot of effort into his and seems to be acting in good faith instead of just trying to get TMR deadminned

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 2:27 pm**

i think everyone involved in this situation was exercising some use of brain dumb, i think there is a sliver of credibility to saying that the response from the administrative side may have been a bit excessive to the majority of individuals for a dumb situation involving a large amount of people -- but there are people who were banned who deserved it

overall dumb situation not a whole lot to talk about imo

3/10 not very good complaint

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 2:38 pm**

All this bad blood over something which in the end is inconsequential, and it makes me a bit sad to see this happen to the manuel community

I think mistakes were made all around by all parties, promise to do better next time and move on

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 5:14 pm**

Manuel is going to have these problems because theres a population of people who jump at the opportunity to break what little roleplay there is at the first sight. Everyone suiciding does fuck all for getting the round over with in a reasonable timeframe (25 minute shuttle call during 550% time dilation lul) and it was obviously happening because we had an OOC shitshow where mob mentality came out on top. I don't know why people are shitting up OOC and calling for mass suicides on a roleplay server but its obvious they should fuck off to somewhere else.

I find it odd to see complaints about ban bots when manuel has been in desperate need of more enforcement for a while now. Yea a couple people got heavier bans than they deserved but suiciding for no reason is still bad RP on a roleplay server. Don't act like the people getting notes instead of bans are entirely innocent.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 5:17 pm**

Super Aggro Crag wrote:99% of admin complaint posts are stupid and bad but this dude is actually putting a lot of effort into his and seems to be acting in good faith instead of just trying to get TMR deadminned

Even though I think you're entirely wrong the fact that you likely see most admin complaints this way and still see this one as in good faith is worthwhile anyways

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 5:42 pm**

Is suicideboning equivalent to murderboning?

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 5:49 pm**

terranaut wrote:It's a valid complaint and Rose needs to chill and be less of a fucking banbot. Somewhere in the rules there's a caveat that enforcement is at discretion of admins but should always be for the betterment of the round/community. Can you say with a straight face that banning 19 people because they're trying to change the nap and avoid reliving a horrendous waste of time in an unplayable round yet again is good for anyone except someone's ban quota?
How can you say "just go play 25 minutes and wait for the inevitable hammer to ruin your round and make it unplayable", honestly why bother? Nothing you start will come to fruition. Why is that map even in rotation with such a consistent and round breaking bug?

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 6:28 pm**

>making a complaint

Shameful display

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 7:42 pm**

Admins be like : "I act in the best interests of the server and playerbase"

Also admins : *ban 19 players for trying to restart yet another round with 500% time dilation*

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 8:01 pm**

manuel players always talk about the fact that their rounds last 2 hours
the fact that until 30 minutes pass the time dilation wouldn't kick in would only be relevant if the wizard did a bagil style 30 minute round, something I'm sure neither the manuel players nor the admins would want
I also don't understand how the wizard would enjoy his rare antag roll playing slideshow simulator past 30 minutes
I'd say the admin was too high on dopamine after banning so many people at once and his dick was too hard for him to think with his head, but that would imply it's a person and not a robot behind this action

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:07 pm**

Eskjjlj wrote:Admins be like : "I act in the best interests of the server and playerbase"

Also admins : *ban 19 players for trying to restart yet another round with 500% time dilation*

funny but if you actually read up on what happened the round in question was not lagging at all since you have to take specific actions on map to lag it out due to mob ai. they were trying to grief the wizard so the round would switch for something that didn't happen

as a side note "trying to restart" doesn't really tell the full story, not that you had the full story in your head when making the post

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:09 pm**

also just to talk about the icebox lag itself, mobs were being activated by people going close but not killing them just retreating, this lags out the server if done in the 255x255x2 space (bar the station) where mobs can spawn. was done on previous rounds + an orm bug that didn't let people turn in ore which wouldn't be fixed by a map vote. now you know!

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:14 pm**

I see we have a mind reader in the admin team. That's insane....

Admins be like : "Antags rounds aren't sacred. I won't give you an antag token after you died because of my event."

Also admins : "Yeah these 19 people deserved to be banned because they ruined this guy's wizard round."

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:24 pm**

Eskjjlj wrote:I see we have a mind reader in the admin team. That's insane....

Admins be like : "Antags rounds aren't sacred. I won't give you an antag token after you died because of my event."

Also admins : "Yeah these 19 people deserved to be banned because they ruined this guy's wizard round."

I could come up with better bait in my sleep

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 10:39 pm**

Armhulen was telling me they should have played normally until the server inevitably reached 500% time dilation 30 minutes later instead of taking action to restart for a map that was not bugged. Way to waste everyone's time.

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:04 pm**

are you defending the people who suicided because they hate icebox (good and ok) or the people who suicided and then spent the round giving away the wizard's location in OOC (bad and not ok)

Posted: **Fri May 29, 2020 11:25 pm**

Jimmius wrote:are you defending the people who suicided because they hate icebox (good and ok) or the people who suicided and then spent the round giving away the wizard's location in OOC (bad and not ok)

Giving away the wizard location in OOC is a retard move considering the server rules but when you think about it you can imagine their thought process.

1) Manuel isn't on perma dynamic.
2) They knew the server was going to break some time later because of ice box.
3) Put 1 and 2 together and have the wizard die so that the round restarts!!!!!

They were probably thinking admins had forsaken Manuel.

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 6:01 am**

wesoda25 wrote:
Eskjjlj wrote:I see we have a mind reader in the admin team. That's insane....

Admins be like : "Antags rounds aren't sacred. I won't give you an antag token after you died because of my event."

Also admins : "Yeah these 19 people deserved to be banned because they ruined this guy's wizard round."
I could come up with better bait in my sleep

it's just not worth it with the rocket powered goalposts man but you can't say i didn't try

Posted: **Sat May 30, 2020 6:55 am**

glad manuel keeps people i dont like out of MY hugbox server
on a serious note this sounds like another way to piss people off because "manuelmin is banbots only!" and i feel like you shouldn't be extremely fucking furious because people want the 550% time dilation round to end in your manuel discord server
that just makes you look bad

Posted: **Sun May 31, 2020 3:30 am**

do you think they're roleplaying the admin complaint too and that's why it's so long?

Posted: **Sun May 31, 2020 3:31 am**

oranges wrote:do you think they're roleplaying the admin complaint too and that's why it's so long?

without a doubt

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:45 am**

saprasam wrote:i feel like you shouldn't be extremely fucking furious because people want the 550% time dilation round to end in your manuel discord server

man come on literally right in this thread arm says

Armhulen wrote:funny but if you actually read up on what happened the round in question was not lagging at all since you have to take specific actions on map to lag it out due to mob ai. they were trying to grief the wizard so the round would switch for something that didn't happen

like jesus christ i know manuel bad is a popular thing to say but this is pathetic, someone is literally a few posts above saying what happened and people are still posting incorrect shit

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:49 am**

FloranOtten wrote:
Everyone seems to be ignoring the context of Manuel as a server. We've had papercode crashes, SQL crashes, the phrase "Manuel moment" exists to describe random Manuel crashes.
Someone hasn't been playing Terry.

TERRY IS NOT MANUEL

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:57 pm**

Qbopper wrote: man come on literally right in this thread arm says

Armhulen wrote:funny but if you actually read up on what happened the round in question was not lagging at all since you have to take specific actions on map to lag it out due to mob ai. they were trying to grief the wizard so the round would switch for something that didn't happen
like jesus christ i know manuel bad is a popular thing to say but this is pathetic, someone is literally a few posts above saying what happened and people are still posting incorrect shit

i did not see that but i still believe the point stands that if you get incredibly angry because the playerbase is too dumb to know whats right and wrong is incorrect

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:28 pm**

That would make more sense if the rule broken was something weird like "only medical doctors are allowed to know surgery" and lots of people were breaking it, not "you're actually not suppose to bomb yourself/the station because you THINK the time dilation is going to increase in the next 10-20 minutes".

I dont see anything wrong with being upset in people who should know better than to do that.

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:46 pm**

Cobby wrote:That would make more sense if the rule broken was something weird like "only medical doctors are allowed to know surgery" and lots of people were breaking it, not "you're actually not suppose to bomb yourself/the station because you THINK the time dilation is going to increase in the next 10-20 minutes".

I dont see anything wrong with being upset in people who should know better than to do that.

that makes a lot more sense to my thooga booga brain actually, i dunno i guess i expect people to not go apeshit when people pull the dumbest fucking stunts on the planet

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:47 pm**

Just think of it this way: It's justified, but we really wish it didn't happen. Anger just muddles things and isn't really necessary

It's really the biggest thing i'd talk to rose about if I was headmin or whatever

Posted: **Mon Jun 01, 2020 10:51 pm**

I thought the thrust of the complaint isnt that the bombers got banned, it was that Rose went mad with power expediency and banned a bunch of people who didnt do anything other than suicide

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