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So they gib people like normal cult, for wizard tier powers? Shadowling ascension?

I honestly have no clue if it was deserved to yeet their tools until I know how OP they get

But from rocks explanation, they do sound kinda OP ngl

Pros of headmins this term:

-FNR stuff gets handled faster then I've ever seen before.

-They nice

Cons:

- Dootdoom cord disaster

- They won't give me my animation general like what the fuc-

^ Yeah I'm just pointing it out since a lot of people are assuming Dr. Aura ran an event, Rock killed his event players, and so Dr. Aura secbanned him which is not true. RaveRadbury and a player were running an event, Rock killed the event players, and Dr. Aura investigated/secbanned them.

honestly I think aura was biased more against me than rave could've been

saprasam wrote: also he should have just said "your conduct as sec sucks and i've noticed this over rounds" instead of just making an excuse that "you killed my crusaders boohoo"

he could have done that but it wouldn't be true since he has almost no time on manuel
not that me "murdering" the crusaders is true either though

confused rock wrote:honestly I think aura was biased more against me than rave could've been

saprasam wrote: also he should have just said "your conduct as sec sucks and i've noticed this over rounds" instead of just making an excuse that "you killed my crusaders boohoo"

he could have done that but it wouldn't be true since he has almost no time on manuel
not that me "murdering" the crusaders is true either though

there's only so far you can comply with "be kind to the antags" when you rock up and they're actively engaged in combat

Manuel: don't validhunt unless youre sec
Also manuel: brooo sec can't validhunt you have ways to non lethal people even if you're outnumbered if you want to beat people to death don't play sec you should have higher standards

BeeSting12 wrote:

saprasam wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:It wasnt dr auras event he was just called in to ban rock by rave because rave couldnt due to an open complaint. I’ve never actually heard of that btw I’m pretty sure admins can handle ahelps of people who have complaints against them.

are you joking

not at all. there may or may not be a rule against dealing with someone who has a complaint against you, idk, but rave pinged @manuel-min to log in and deal with it and dr aura logged in

There is not, but there is precedent for being told it's a bad thing to do.

confused rock wrote:Manuel: if you want to beat people to death don't play, you should have higher standards

ftfy

careful with that statement because player versus player conflict is one of the best, most functional parts of the game and the whole reason we made a mrp server was to enrich player versus player conflict

RaveRadbury wrote:

confused rock wrote:Manuel: if you want to beat people to death don't play, you should have higher standards

ftfy

then why wasn't the chaplain banned? checkmate, monotheist.

Armhulen wrote:careful with that statement because player versus player conflict is one of the best, most functional parts of the game and the whole reason we made a mrp server was to enrich player versus player conflict

sorry armhulen didnt you get the memo

the only things we do here is bar RP. Getting more tools to make player versus player conflict more dangerous (like doing mining and xenobio) are now banned and gutted

This post was made by unironically all the admins who wanted MRP when they actually wanted HRP

BeeSting12 wrote:It wasnt dr auras event he was just called in to ban rock by rave because rave couldnt due to an open complaint. I’ve never actually heard of that btw I’m pretty sure admins can handle ahelps of people who have complaints against them.

rave's manuel cabal is growing

RaveRadbury wrote:

confused rock wrote:Manuel: if you want to beat people to death don't play, you should have higher standards

ftfy

How about you don't call for people to be "investigated" when your event characters antag/self-antag.

[2020-06-22 03:03:30.993] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Dr. Aura/(Tickles-The-INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS)->Tanachi/(Constanze Morschaff): So you were taking care of things and the HoS more or less just included themselves into it, right?

Where did Aura get this impression? Did Aura come into the situation pre-briefed? Their line of questioning is trying to lead Tanachi to agree with a specific interpretation of events. It would appear that Aura wasn't trying to ascertain the facts, instead they were trying to gather specific intel that supported their specific view of the situation, right?

[2020-06-22 03:03:59.103] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Tanachi/(Constanze Morschaff)->Dr. Aura/(Tickles-The-INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS): Yeah. I had asked them for help because it was 3v1 otherwise. I asked them to help me

[2020-06-22 03:04:44.526] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Dr. Aura/(Tickles-The-INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS)->Tanachi/(Constanze Morschaff): But you went in with the express purpose of subduing them, not killing them? You said flashed, there were centcomm messages about it.

What gave Aura the impression there were CentCom messages plural?

Beesting stated that there were only 2 CentCom messages, one was 30 minutes before the incident and the other was a meme message sent while Aura was interrogating Rock in admin PMs - After the incident and after Aura claimed multiple messages had been sent while cross-examining Tanachi

[2020-06-22 03:05:33.371] ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Tanachi/(Constanze Morschaff)->Dr. Aura/(Tickles-The-INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS): I thought [the CentCom message from 30 minutes ago] was for stopping people just outright killing [the people involved in the event] to begin with. I didn't think it mattered if I killed them or not after they attacked me and the geneticist with swords

Manuel: If you want to beat people to death, don't play, you should have higher standards
Rave: Except if I'm running an event and my event pawns self-antag and start attacking, then standards can be fucked because I'm meta-grudging Is-A-Lizard as I don't want to see him on Manuel because I believe he's too LRP, so now I'm going to escalate every percieved micro-aggression to full admin interactions so I can "drain the swamp".
Aura: I apply cross-examination and witness-leading techniques to attempt to flavour the witness' repsonses when questioning "for my own understanding of events", to ensure that I can frame the evidence in a manner the supports "my own understanding of events" over the objective truth.

Shadowflame909 wrote:

Armhulen wrote:careful with that statement because player versus player conflict is one of the best, most functional parts of the game and the whole reason we made a mrp server was to enrich player versus player conflict

sorry armhulen didnt you get the memo

the only things we do here is bar RP. Getting more tools to make player versus player conflict more dangerous (like doing mining and xenobio) are now banned and gutted

This post was made by unironically all the admins who wanted MRP when they actually wanted HRP

what the hell are you stankin

Stickymayhem wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:It wasnt dr auras event he was just called in to ban rock by rave because rave couldnt due to an open complaint. I’ve never actually heard of that btw I’m pretty sure admins can handle ahelps of people who have complaints against them.

rave's manuel cabal is growing

it helps no one to be reductive

im stankin the fact that gamers really prefer bar rp over the entire game so rebalances, removals, and nerfs literally dont affect them and they infact cheer them on!!!

like bro whats so fun about sitting in the bar and drinking alcohol until your in crit

no game there!! no game!!!

BeeSting12 wrote:

saprasam wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:It wasnt dr auras event he was just called in to ban rock by rave because rave couldnt due to an open complaint. I’ve never actually heard of that btw I’m pretty sure admins can handle ahelps of people who have complaints against them.

are you joking

not at all. there may or may not be a rule against dealing with someone who has a complaint against you, idk, but rave pinged @manuel-min to log in and deal with it and dr aura logged in

just to clarify, you lied in your first post by saying dr aura was called in specifically, so everything you say is now inadmissable.

oranges wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:

saprasam wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:It wasnt dr auras event he was just called in to ban rock by rave because rave couldnt due to an open complaint. I’ve never actually heard of that btw I’m pretty sure admins can handle ahelps of people who have complaints against them.

are you joking

not at all. there may or may not be a rule against dealing with someone who has a complaint against you, idk, but rave pinged @manuel-min to log in and deal with it and dr aura logged in

just to clarify, you lied in your first post by saying dr aura was called in specifically, so everything you say is now inadmissable.

Hey guess what came in the mail today

BeeSting12 wrote:

saprasam wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:It wasnt dr auras event he was just called in to ban rock by rave because rave couldnt due to an open complaint. I’ve never actually heard of that btw I’m pretty sure admins can handle ahelps of people who have complaints against them.

are you joking

not at all. there may or may not be a rule against dealing with someone who has a complaint against you, idk, but rave pinged @manuel-min to log in and deal with it and dr aura logged in

isn’t it weird how there was initially a thread about rave complaint but then rave “called” aura onto Manuel to deal with rock and now it’s all about Aura and not Rave

almost as if this thread merge wasn’t accidental haha amirite fellas

Flatulent wrote:isn’t it weird how there was initially a thread about rave complaint but then rave “called” aura onto Manuel to deal with rock and now it’s all about Aura and not Rave

almost as if this thread merge wasn’t accidental haha amirite fellas

If we're talking about headmin conspiracy theories then I want to know whats with 3 headmins voting no on the animation general

75% of the admin team has anime avatars

20% are furries

and 5% is whatever else

Seems like a good fit no? Almost like the headmins are trying to prevent something from happening by just granting it!

oranges wrote:

Armhulen wrote:

oranges wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:

saprasam wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:It wasnt dr auras event he was just called in to ban rock by rave because rave couldnt due to an open complaint. I’ve never actually heard of that btw I’m pretty sure admins can handle ahelps of people who have complaints against them.

are you joking

not at all. there may or may not be a rule against dealing with someone who has a complaint against you, idk, but rave pinged @manuel-min to log in and deal with it and dr aura logged in

just to clarify, you lied in your first post by saying dr aura was called in specifically, so everything you say is now inadmissable.

Hey guess what came in the mail today

what

THESE NUTSH LMAO

Armhulen wrote:

oranges wrote:

Armhulen wrote:

oranges wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:

saprasam wrote:

BeeSting12 wrote:It wasnt dr auras event he was just called in to ban rock by rave because rave couldnt due to an open complaint. I’ve never actually heard of that btw I’m pretty sure admins can handle ahelps of people who have complaints against them.

are you joking

not at all. there may or may not be a rule against dealing with someone who has a complaint against you, idk, but rave pinged @manuel-min to log in and deal with it and dr aura logged in

just to clarify, you lied in your first post by saying dr aura was called in specifically, so everything you say is now inadmissable.

Hey guess what came in the mail today

what

THESE NUTSH LMAO

THE NUTSHACK LMAO
[youtube]9bSGlMd1Y7Q[/youtube]

Flatulent wrote:isn’t it weird how there was initially a thread about rave complaint but then rave “called” aura onto Manuel to deal with rock and now it’s all about Aura and not Rave

almost as if this thread merge wasn’t accidental haha amirite fellas

Does it really matter doe?
We all just reeing at thing because thing exists. Kind of irrelevant what that thing is in the end.
Then some shitlers attempt to salvage some semblance of discussion about it all and maybe one post is actually worth reading between it all.
Speaking of, I lost the red string somewhere in this page and the last.

I think Oranges is cute tho.

it's oranges

PKPenguin321 wrote:it's oranges

Pineapples?

Rave did not ask for anyone in particular.

Yeah but what if it was like "hey I need someone to punish rock for me" and aura was thinkin "oooh yes I love banning rock that is my most favorite thing to do"

for the same reason nobody lets you drive the vehicle in ARMA rock.

how do I ban oranges from posting in peanut threads about me

Shadowflame909 wrote:

Flatulent wrote:isn’t it weird how there was initially a thread about rave complaint but then rave “called” aura onto Manuel to deal with rock and now it’s all about Aura and not Rave

almost as if this thread merge wasn’t accidental haha amirite fellas

If we're talking about headmin conspiracy theories then I want to know whats with 3 headmins voting no on the animation general

75% of the admin team has anime avatars

20% are furries

and 5% is whatever else

Seems like a good fit no? Almost like the headmins are trying to prevent something from happening by just granting it!

The headmims made a good decision. Tg does not require a "soft hentai" channel on discord

don't be afraid of my jojo posting

Shadowflame909 wrote:don't be afraid of my jojo posting

Oh I am not afraid for myself.
It is good that your kind has the protection it needs from yourselves posting lolicon.

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:

Shadowflame909 wrote:don't be afraid of my jojo posting

Oh I am not afraid for myself.
It is good that your kind has the protection it needs from yourselves posting lolicon.

RaveRadbury wrote:

how hard do you shit?

jeez tg forums have really degraded in quality. I didn't think we could get much lower.

RaveRadbury wrote:

is there some kind of lizard metaclique infighting or something? how come they keep banning each other?

teepeepee wrote:is there some kind of lizard metaclique infighting or something? how come they keep banning each other?

It's the lack of mammal or monkey brain. We just have the lizard brain, and it's fight-or-flight.

So what I'm learning from rave's picture is that when I resist shitty and biased judgement, I should expect an even more unhinged shithead to metagrudge me and permanently ban me at first convenience.


A bit off-topic, but I was wondering, who puts you people into power?

BONERMASTER wrote:So what I'm learning from rave's picture is that when I resist shitty and biased judgement, I should expect an even more unhinged shithead to metagrudge me and permanently ban me at first convenience.


A bit off-topic, but I was wondering, who puts you people into power?

People with the Admin Trainer role on discord (which includes GMs even though they generally don't act on it)

Dr. Aura wrote:The culmination of circumstances speak for themselves, as does the magnitude of the response in relation to the nature of the offences. If you put a modicum of the effort you spent trying to defend your actions into deciding which actions are proper for the roles you have spent 5 years playing, you wouldn't be in this situation to begin with.

Hue hue

every time i check this forum rock is getting bullied what happened now

RaveRadbury wrote:

Complaint: This admin misapplied current policy and made a bad decision

Policy: This current policy/lack of policy is bad and causes admins to make bad decisions

I think the admin misapplied current policy

PKPenguin321 wrote:People with the Admin Trainer role on discord (which includes GMs even though they generally don't act on it)

So say, I'm a jannie, and I start banning people for the fuck of it, my massive amount of bans start getting overturned and it becomes painfully clear that I'm an issue. Who is going to take my lights out? Is there anyone that is going to stop me before I send half the server population to the shadow realm?

put me in the screencap

BONERMASTER wrote:

PKPenguin321 wrote:People with the Admin Trainer role on discord (which includes GMs even though they generally don't act on it)

So say, I'm a jannie, and I start banning people for the fuck of it, my massive amount of bans start getting overturned and it becomes painfully clear that I'm an issue. Who is going to take my lights out? Is there anyone that is going to stop me before I send half the server population to the shadow realm?

headmins

BONERMASTER wrote:

PKPenguin321 wrote:People with the Admin Trainer role on discord (which includes GMs even though they generally don't act on it)

So say, I'm a jannie, and I start banning people for the fuck of it, my massive amount of bans start getting overturned and it becomes painfully clear that I'm an issue. Who is going to take my lights out? Is there anyone that is going to stop me before I send half the server population to the shadow realm?

The headmins deadmin you if you're a shitter, but not for one or two bad bans.

Also the players get to vote on a headmin every election

FloranOtten wrote:
The headmins deadmin you if you're a shitter, but not for one or two bad bans.

You have to be a real stupido to get deadminned

Recent deadminnings in memory are

- Nabski literally saying in deadchat before banning haku is "I'm metagruding haku"

- That one pork admin who spawned blobs and when they didn't roll it made themselves a blob manually

- Joan doing the same thing along with clock cult self-spawn similar shenanigans

-Some other admin recently forcing clock cult and rolling antag, getting banned because even if its a RNG roll, its still you antag rolling on your own spawn.


So, all these glaring WTFs are me saying that, even if you have a string of fucking up. You won't get deadminned as long as you don't make it brutally obvious that there was no chance of error.

Shadowflame909 wrote:

FloranOtten wrote:
The headmins deadmin you if you're a shitter, but not for one or two bad bans.

You have to be a real stupido to get deadminned

Recent deadminnings in memory are

- Nabski literally saying in deadchat before banning haku is "I'm metagruding haku"

- That one pork admin who spawned blobs and when they didn't roll it made themselves a blob manually

- Joan doing the same thing along with clock cult self-spawn similar shenanigans

-Some other admin recently forcing clock cult and rolling antag, getting banned because even if its a RNG roll, its still you antag rolling on your own spawn.


So, all these glaring WTFs are me saying that, even if you have a string of fucking up. You won't get deadminned as long as you don't make it brutally obvious that there was no chance of error.

SoS got ousted as a host for such shenanigans to the extreme.
but the real way to get deadminned is to be inactive whenever a inactive purge happens to sweep by... and also be unlucky? it seem inconsistent with those deadminnings. some inactive admins survive the purge, some dont.

To maintain plasuible deniability I would to make it known that I do not know any of you therefore it is impossible for me to have a grudge. The government has removed my last 2 years of memory

Alright, just appears to me that once you get past the initial admin screening that you're left to do whatever you want. Maybe that's just my inner Hitler coming through, but three headmins that only get activated way after the fact and nothing else inbetween to stop you from anything short of spawning yourself in as station destroying god, is something I would call a poor system.

On the headmins I also want to comment, that the ones we had, have in part made highly suspect rulings themselves and absolutely refused to see any reason in their opposition. There has not been a peep from the current ones about this situation, the rock boy has been hanging for almost a week now, a case that I, in my humble opinion, would consider simple. I don't see the current headmins as capable to uncover and bust street-smart janitors that deceive you and abuse their powers in more subtle ways, and I think these guys, and thus the only safety mechanism we have, are absolutely ineffective as a protective measure against any rogue admin with a pinch of wits.