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obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:56 pm
by Yenwodyah
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27827
obi wan kaczynski wrote:
a player began the round spending five minutes running around the engineering department, torturing a mouse while people were working. I then threw an oxygen tank and hit her with it to get her to stop ... The player responds with an escalation with a welding torch, beats me into crit, and drags me towards the SM crystal to dust me. I thought that was gonna happen and adminhelped, but the other player was only stopped by another engineer. I was left in crit and eventually died.

OOC exhaustion (catgirls are a sad example of nerd misogyny because they fetishize women as domesticated housepets).

He then says that my entire ahelp was to get this felinid ban, which is pretty strange since being murdered by a nonantag and nearly dusted is a completely reasonable motivation for ahelping

I said that I reject the authority of his ban, implying that it is absurd and flimsy and injudicious, and that I won't be obeying it, implying that I'll be coming here to appeal, and he interprets this as a threat to ban-evade. In some kind of fit of emotion he turns it into a permanent ban...
Vekter wrote: There's been a long-standing 'joke' among certain players and forum goers that everyone who plays a catgirl is transgender

Both of your previous notes on the matter involved running around the station screaming "CATGIRLS ARE TR*NNIES" and randomly attacking people which isn't something we allow on Manuel.

you attacked a catgirl for very suspect reasons and, when they rightfully beat your skull in, you adminhelped in the hopes they would be banned
Thank you Vekter, catgirl protecter, for keeping us safe from this women respecter! ??????

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:00 pm
by cacogen
>throw oxygen tank at snowflake
>get welded into crit and later die
Is he leaving something out? This isn't proper escalation.

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:27 pm
by thehogshotgun
The commies and the catgirls are allied. We are all doomed

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:41 pm
by oranges

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:03 pm
by Fishimun
Escalation moment

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:58 pm
by Indie-ana Jones
I feel no sympathy for anyone who plays on Manuel and gets banned, you knew what would happen if you played there eventually.

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:07 am
by Space Panda
that guy is a fucking moron

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:26 am
by Super Aggro Crag
imagine random naming on the roleplaying server

that makes you lower than the guys who staticname and grief on manuel at least they leave a legacy of chuckles behind

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:46 am
by Farquaar
Super Aggro Crag wrote:imagine random naming on the roleplaying server

that makes you lower than the guys who staticname and grief on manuel at least they leave a legacy of chuckles behind
What’s wrong with doing randomname on MRP? MRP doesn’t require you to play a snowflake OC. HRP does, maybe, but definitely not MRP. I enjoy roleplaying random crewmember #68 every once in a while. It gives me a chance to try out a new personality.

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:02 am
by Super Aggro Crag
Farquaar wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:imagine random naming on the roleplaying server

that makes you lower than the guys who staticname and grief on manuel at least they leave a legacy of chuckles behind
What’s wrong with doing randomname on MRP? MRP doesn’t require you to play a snowflake OC. HRP does, maybe, but definitely not MRP. I enjoy roleplaying random crewmember #68 every once in a while. It gives me a chance to try out a new personality.
if you aint got 20 pages of backstory prepped and ready get out

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:58 am
by RaveRadbury
Indie-ana Jones wrote:I feel no sympathy for anyone who plays on Manuel and gets banned, you knew what would happen if you played there eventually.
I'm surprised at how often you take pot shots at Manuel, because given your contribution history you'd likely be a great fit and have a good time. Hope you decide to try it out some day.

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 3:53 am
by Kassori
Terrible ruling, weldering someone into crit for throwing a medium force object is some shit tier escalation and the cat deserves a time out.

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:56 am
by Vekter
Kassori wrote:Terrible ruling, weldering someone into crit for throwing a medium force object is some shit tier escalation and the cat deserves a time out.
The cat copped a note for trying to dispose of the body. The fight's a fair bit more two-sided than he makes it out to be in the appeal and, truthfully, the ban has little to do with his specific actions and more his rationale for them.

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 6:28 am
by obi wan kaczynski
o b s e s s e d

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:19 am
by Space Panda
vektr is right this time

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:06 am
by FloranOtten
obi wan kaczynski wrote:o b s e s s e d

Why am I not surprised that this is the same person that thinks anyone opposed to his shuttle idea is autistic and should be disregarded

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:37 am
by Screemonster
Vekter wrote:
Kassori wrote:Terrible ruling, weldering someone into crit for throwing a medium force object is some shit tier escalation and the cat deserves a time out.
The cat copped a note for trying to dispose of the body. The fight's a fair bit more two-sided than he makes it out to be in the appeal and, truthfully, the ban has little to do with his specific actions and more his rationale for them.
whenever I see a ban appeal that amounts to "all I did was X" I immediately start to suspect that X is not, in fact, all they did, or that X is an incredibly reductive description of what actually happened

"all I did was top up my oxygen tank from a canister" when the canister in question was one you just filled with hot plasma in the incinerator and dragged to the brig

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:56 am
by The Respected Man
Indie-ana Jones wrote:I feel no sympathy for anyone who plays on Manuel and gets banned, you knew what would happen if you played there eventually.
This, it should have been an ultraban (your DNA is banned) for playing in manuel in the first place

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:38 pm
by Flatulent
> banning admin: vekter
further reading has been deemed unnessesary.

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 12:58 pm
by skoglol
obi wan kaczynski wrote:catgirls are a sad example of nerd misogyny because they fetishize women as domesticated housepets
I play a catboy. Check mate.



Ban seems a bit much, but he was probably being a cunt in ahelps.

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 1:58 pm
by Tlaltecuhtli
shutting down manuel, deadmin the admin team and ban obamin ken mccain forever is the only solution to this

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:13 pm
by SkeletalElite
My question is, why are both parties receiving a punishment?
If the cat over escalated why is this dude banned?
If this dude is provoking felenids fnr then why did the cat get noted for kicking his shit in?

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:30 pm
by Screemonster
SkeletalElite wrote:My question is, why are both parties receiving a punishment?
If the cat over escalated why is this dude banned?
If this dude is provoking felenids fnr then why did the cat get noted for kicking his shit in?
all are punish'd

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:45 pm
by skoglol
People get away with a lot if they arent cunts when they get bwoinked. The people who keep getting banned "for no reason" due to "the admin conspiracy" are usually fuckwits that during the ahelp ensures you really dont wanna keep talking to them, dont want to see them around for a while, or both.

In addition, both parties in a conflict can be in the wrong.

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 5:46 am
by Vekter
skoglol wrote:People get away with a lot if they arent cunts when they get bwoinked. The people who keep getting banned "for no reason" due to "the admin conspiracy" are usually fuckwits that during the ahelp ensures you really dont wanna keep talking to them, dont want to see them around for a while, or both.

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:07 am
by cacogen
the real admin conspiracy is hurting their feelings

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 2:52 am
by saprasam
ban was too extreme but that's expected of manuel
dont care though because this guy's a reallll nice guy
obi wan kaczynski wrote:wow people with autism play space station 13? Now i've seen everything!

Reminder that a symptom of autism is a pathological resistance to any kind of change. Notice how zero arguments have been put forth defending the shuttle in its current state, so we can infer that it's people growing attached to the status quo hugbox

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:27 am
by Screemonster
saprasam wrote:ban was too extreme but that's expected of manuel
dont care though because this guy's a reallll nice guy
obi wan kaczynski wrote:wow people with autism play space station 13? Now i've seen everything!

Reminder that a symptom of autism is a pathological resistance to any kind of change. Notice how zero arguments have been put forth defending the shuttle in its current state, so we can infer that it's people growing attached to the status quo hugbox
what a surprise that someone that conducts themselves as an abrasive asshole in one situation turns out to conduct themselves like an abrasive asshole in several situations

like the part where the guy kept flipping the poll option text to change no votes to yes when he was losing

and where he "totally only threw an oxygen tank" when it turned out he actually wordlessly attacked them five times

and then basically said "I'll fuckin do it again" in the ahelps

Re: obi wan permabanobi peanut

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:04 am
by Vekter
The more I see about this guy, the more I question my logic on the matter.