/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:34 am**

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28308

I banned you from head roles for a week and didn't bother to reply to your appeal for the entire ban length so sucked in I guess lmfao

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2021 12:06 pm**

based

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2021 3:29 pm**

amazing

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2021 5:17 pm**

I got week banned and i didnt appeal it and i recieved the same result for less effort

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:13 pm**

"Technically you broke the rule even if you went to the effort of making someone else HoS, which is the whole reason behind the rule - that means I had to week ban you"

Lol

Posted: **Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:21 pm**

It felt bad when he replied after the ban was already over despite being active during the week playing ss13. Ouch/

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:21 am**

why hasn't this guy filed a complaint? Motherfucker ghosted him until the ban was over! For fucks sake he couldn't even be bothered to say something along the lines of "I'll take a look at this in a few days"

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:25 am**

Yeah honestly this is the ban appeal I'd make a complaint about.

Not just for the shit ban (Seriously, I expected this to be a 'yeah you weren't online I wanted you on the forum' he actually upheld a fucking week ban for this???) but because he just didn't fucking bother to reply until after it expired.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:27 am**

Can't believe admins have lifes, when will they start working harder for what we pay them for? Smh

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:31 am**

Bruh if he's active playing the game he can reply to a damn ban appeal. Its not a "sorry I was busy" when he's clearly not 'that' busy.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:49 am**

MortoSasye wrote:Can't believe admins have lifes, when will they start working harder for what we pay them for? Smh

If you can't be bothered to say "I'll take a look at this in a few days" you shouldn't be an admin

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:23 am**

MortoSasye wrote:Can't believe admins have lifes, when will they start working harder for what we pay them for? Smh

https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/ckey/thunder12345

Soo busy irl

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:36 am**

kieth4 wrote:https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/ckey/thunder12345

Soo busy irl

>1678 rounds played
>90% of them under a staticname

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:46 am**

This isn't a very good experience for the banned player and there's lots of things Thunder could've done to improve it.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:40 am**

The administration here got all responsible and considerate at some point apparently

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:30 pm**

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Bruh if he's active playing the game he can reply to a damn ban appeal. Its not a "sorry I was busy" when he's clearly not 'that' busy.

Sorry, I forgot admins can't play and destress /s

thehogshotgun wrote:
MortoSasye wrote:Can't believe admins have lifes, when will they start working harder for what we pay them for? Smh
If you can't be bothered to say "I'll take a look at this in a few days" you shouldn't be an admin

Sometimes admins have periods of time in which they aren't actively adminning. I would agree if they were always doing this.

There are literally staff members that connect once every 3 months and talk once per year on the discord server.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:08 pm**

MortoSasye wrote:
XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Bruh if he's active playing the game he can reply to a damn ban appeal. Its not a "sorry I was busy" when he's clearly not 'that' busy.
Sorry, I forgot admins can't play and destress /s

thehogshotgun wrote:
MortoSasye wrote:Can't believe admins have lifes, when will they start working harder for what we pay them for? Smh
If you can't be bothered to say "I'll take a look at this in a few days" you shouldn't be an admin
Sometimes admins have periods of time in which they aren't actively adminning. I would agree if they were always doing this.

There are literally staff members that connect once every 3 months and talk once per year on the discord server.

The mental gymnastics you are going through to rationalize that admins can do no wrong is astonishing. They adminned and banned someone for a week. That had enough free time to play a few games every day. They didn’t respond to the appeal during the ban length (keep in mind they were playing on tg for the entirety of the ban length)

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:19 pm**

thehogshotgun wrote:
The mental gymnastics you are going through to rationalize that admins can do no wrong is astonishing. They adminned and banned someone for a week. That had enough free time to play a few games every day. They didn’t respond to the appeal during the ban length (keep in mind they were playing on tg for the entirety of the ban length)

My dear, I have been here a long time now, and was a head admin at one point. I ain't saying admins can do no wrong. I mean that you're looking for professionalism in a voluntary position.

Admins are not being paid, are subject to verbal abuse and harassment, and still try to help the community with their part. If they decided to take a break and play after banning someone, this one time, then it is not the big thing you're painting it to be.

Now, if you told me that this is something they always do then yes, you would absolutely be right that they should step down.

Consider multiple factors instead of focusing in one and running with it.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:25 pm**

MortoSasye wrote:
thehogshotgun wrote:
The mental gymnastics you are going through to rationalize that admins can do no wrong is astonishing. They adminned and banned someone for a week. That had enough free time to play a few games every day. They didn’t respond to the appeal during the ban length (keep in mind they were playing on tg for the entirety of the ban length)
My dear, I have been here a long time now, and was a head admin at one point. I ain't saying admins can do no wrong. I mean that you're looking for professionalism in a voluntary position.

Admins are not being paid, are subject to verbal abuse and harassment, and still try to help the community with their part. If they decided to take a break and play after banning someone, this one time, then it is not the big thing you're painting it to be.

Now, if you told me that this is something they always do then yes, you would absolutely be right that they should step down.

Consider multiple factors instead of focusing in one and running with it.

Bootlick desperately trying to avoid the truth that the jannie he is defending is in the wrong

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:26 pm**

thehogshotgun wrote: Bootlick desperately trying to avoid the truth that the jannie he is defending is in the wrong

Kek, didn't knew what to say so you resorted to insults.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:33 pm**

Say what you will but it’s a bad feeling to appeal something as straight forward as this and basically get left on read for the entirety of the ban. Also he did make an effort to designate someone else, so week ban feels a little harsh, although sadly is protected by the rules.

Mind you though, I’m not saying thunder should be crucified or even punished for not responding for a week - the first thing they did was apologize of course. Just not very surprising if people complain for a bit.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:24 pm**

This will be an admin complaint when the thread gets locked. I appreciate he said sorry but this is not good admin conduct. I have no issue with the appeal itself being denied. It was left a week however whilst he played in game. I even attempted to talk to him in occ a few times. (he didn't respond to any of my messages shocking). This is a clear cut example of him ignoring it for some reason until it had already expired.

Here is an example after thunder did ick ock on a cult round.

08:43:11 OOC Kieth4/(Harvester (118)) "ban for 7 days" (88, 104, 2) Medbay Central
08:43:13 OOC LEDDriver/(Harvester (929)) "its ok you are admin" (75, 82, 2) Abandoned Medbay
08:43:43 OOC Tlaltecuhtli/(Brick Carr) "and extend the ban until thunder esponds"

The messages here are the quickest and first example I can find but it is a clear reference to the ban appeal.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:03 pm**

MortoSasye wrote: My dear, I have been here a long time now, and was a head admin at one point. I ain't saying admins can do no wrong. I mean that you're looking for professionalism in a voluntary position.
Admins are not being paid, are subject to verbal abuse and harassment, and still try to help the community with their part.

If you take a position of authority, misuse it (whether due to malice or incompetence), and don't hold yourself accountable or to reasonable standards of conduct, I don't care that you aren't being paid, I care that you're an active detriment to your community.
Doing it for free doesn't excuse shitty behavior.
Yes, admins are human and will inevitably err, and depending on the circumstances this can be understandable. Perfection isn't to be expected, nor is total professionalism, but there has to be an actual standard or it looks like admins are just a higher caste who can do whatever they so please with only the risk of, at worst, a slap on the wrist for, say, cavalierly banning someone and totally disregarding actually dealing with the situation appropriately when that person challenges the ruling.

Refusing to hold people accountable, morally or professionally, just because they aren't actually being paid, especially in cases where there's only the flimsiest of excuses to be made in their defense is asinine.
"they do it for free" doesn't excuse "it" being a shit job. either hold yourself and your peers to a proper standard or don't take up a position of authority.

Spoiler:

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:24 pm**

MortoSasye wrote:
XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Bruh if he's active playing the game he can reply to a damn ban appeal. Its not a "sorry I was busy" when he's clearly not 'that' busy.
Sorry, I forgot admins can't play and destress /s

That argument doesn't fly with me, if someone's sitting around waiting for you to do something for them that's time sensitive and you don't do it for them - that's on you. Sure, you can have something important happen - but you can't turn around and say "that something important was playing video games where that person can talk at/to them and clearly see they're being ignored". Hell if he was playing ANYTHING that wasn't tg, the player wouldn't see him not giving a shit and wouldn't feel like an idiot. Either the admin let him down or the system isn't working - if admins are too busy to even look at it they should let other admins do it for them, same way retired ones do.

He didn't even get an in detail response worth waiting a week for - just a copy paste of the rule page "Look it says in the rules that I can ban you for this". Which comes to the other point - the ban is utter nonsense. The admin doesn't point out that he has a history of doing this, so if that changes you can disregard the rest of this. This guy didn't "pick a head role then alt f4", he went "oh shit I gotta go, I'll assign a replacement then leave". But he gets a week ban because "um sweetie you resolved it IC instead of OOC I have to ban you now

". How is banning him not "HA I found someone to ban lets hit him with a week"? Admin's response is even just "see you broke a rule it wasn't 'inappropriate' to ban you". Straight up definition of a banbot ban - no interest in "this will make the server better", just "oh buddy you didn't abide by 'the rules' it's GO TIME".

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:40 pm**

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:
MortoSasye wrote:
XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Bruh if he's active playing the game he can reply to a damn ban appeal. Its not a "sorry I was busy" when he's clearly not 'that' busy.
Sorry, I forgot admins can't play and destress /s
That argument doesn't fly with me, if someone's sitting around waiting for you to do something for them that's time sensitive and you don't do it for them - that's on you. Sure, you can have something important happen - but you can't turn around and say "that something important was playing video games where that person can talk at/to them and clearly see they're being ignored". Hell if he was playing ANYTHING that wasn't tg, the player wouldn't see him not giving a shit and wouldn't feel like an idiot.

He didn't even get an in detail response worth waiting a week for - just a copy paste of the rule page "Look it says in the rules that I can ban you for this". Which comes to the other point - the ban is utter nonsense. The admin doesn't point out that he has a history of doing this, so if that changes you can disregard the rest of this. This guy didn't "pick a head role then alt f4", he went "oh shit I gotta go, I'll assign a replacement then leave". But he gets a week ban because "um sweetie you resolved it IC instead of OOC I have to ban you now ". How is banning him not "HA I found someone to ban lets hit him with a week"? Admin's response is even just "see you broke a rule it wasn't 'inappropriate' to ban you". Straight up definition of a banbot ban - no interest in "this will make the server better", just "oh buddy you didn't abide by 'the rules' it's GO TIME".

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 pm**

you forgot to uwu-fy it

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:58 pm**

terranaut wrote:you forgot to uwu-fy it

Shut the fuck up ERPer

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:47 pm**

Xiv speaks the truth.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:28 am**

Your "time as headmin" is probably the last thing you should be putting on a resume Morto we all know how it went

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:45 am**

That awgument d-doesn't fwy with me, if someonye's s-s-sitting awound waiting fow you t-to do something fow them t-t-that's time sensitive and you don't do i-it fow them - t-t-that's on you. *sweats* Suwe, you c-can have something impowtant h-happen - but you can't tuwn awound and say *sees buldge* "that something impowtant was pwaying v-v-video games whewe that pewson c-can tawk at/to them and cweawwy see they'we b-being ignyowed". Heww if he was pwaying ANYTHING that wasn't tg, *huggles tightly* the x3 pwayew wouwdn't see him nyot giving a shit and wouwdn't feew wike *whispers to self* an idiot. *huggles tightly* Eithew the x3 admin wet him d-d-down ow (・`ω´・) the x3 system isn't w-wowking - if admins awe too *sees buldge* busy *sweats* t-to even owo w-wook at i-it they shouwd wet othew admins do i-it fow them, same w-way wetiwed onyes do.

He didn't *sweats* even owo get an in detaiw wesponse wowth waiting a week fow - just *blushes* a copy paste of the x3 wuwe page "-"-"Wook i-it says in the x3 wuwes that I c-can ban :3 you fow t-t-this". Which comes t-to the x3 othew point - the x3 ban :3 is uttew nyonsense. the *sees buldge* admin d-doesn't point out that he has a histowy of d-d-doing this, so if that changes you c-can d-diswegawd the x3 west ;;w;; of this. This guy didn't *sweats* "pick a head wowe then awt *sweats* f4", he went >w< "oh shit I gotta go, I'ww assign a wepwacement then weave". But he gets a week ban :3 because "um sweetie you wesowved i-it IC instead of OOC I have t-to ban :3 you nyow *whispers to self*

". How is bannying *sees buldge* him nyot "HA I found someonye ^w^ t-to ban :3 wets hit him with a week"!!11 Admin's wesponse is even owo just *blushes* "see you bwoke a wuwe i-it wasn't 'inyappwopwiate' t-to ban :3 you". *sees buldge* stwaight *sweats* up definyition of a b-b-banbot ban :3 - nyo i-intewest in "this wiww make the x3 sewvew bettew", just *blushes* "oh buddy you didn't *sweats* a-abide by 'the w-wuwes' it's GO TIME".

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:47 am**

based

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:05 am**

Lmao swept under the rug

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:39 am**

i would have banned this fucker permanently for getting unbanned

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:23 pm**

XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Lmao swept under the rug

F mothafuckers actually did it they actually swept it under le rug

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:11 pm**

oranges wrote:That awgument d-doesn't fwy with me, if someonye's s-s-sitting awound waiting fow you t-to do something fow them t-t-that's time sensitive and you don't do i-it fow them - t-t-that's on you. *sweats* Suwe, you c-can have something impowtant h-happen - but you can't tuwn awound and say *sees buldge* "that something impowtant was pwaying v-v-video games whewe that pewson c-can tawk at/to them and cweawwy see they'we b-being ignyowed". Heww if he was pwaying ANYTHING that wasn't tg, *huggles tightly* the x3 pwayew wouwdn't see him nyot giving a shit and wouwdn't feew wike *whispers to self* an idiot. *huggles tightly* Eithew the x3 admin wet him d-d-down ow (・`ω´・) the x3 system isn't w-wowking - if admins awe too *sees buldge* busy *sweats* t-to even owo w-wook at i-it they shouwd wet othew admins do i-it fow them, same w-way wetiwed onyes do.

He didn't *sweats* even owo get an in detaiw wesponse wowth waiting a week fow - just *blushes* a copy paste of the x3 wuwe page "-"-"Wook i-it says in the x3 wuwes that I c-can ban :3 you fow t-t-this". Which comes t-to the x3 othew point - the x3 ban :3 is uttew nyonsense. the *sees buldge* admin d-doesn't point out that he has a histowy of d-d-doing this, so if that changes you c-can d-diswegawd the x3 west ;;w;; of this. This guy didn't *sweats* "pick a head wowe then awt *sweats* f4", he went >w< "oh shit I gotta go, I'ww assign a wepwacement then weave". But he gets a week ban :3 because "um sweetie you wesowved i-it IC instead of OOC I have t-to ban :3 you nyow *whispers to self* ". How is bannying *sees buldge* him nyot "HA I found someonye ^w^ t-to ban :3 wets hit him with a week"!!11 Admin's wesponse is even owo just *blushes* "see you bwoke a wuwe i-it wasn't 'inyappwopwiate' t-to ban :3 you". *sees buldge* stwaight *sweats* up definyition of a b-b-banbot ban :3 - nyo i-intewest in "this wiww make the x3 sewvew bettew", just *blushes* "oh buddy you didn't *sweats* a-abide by 'the w-wuwes' it's GO TIME".

this is why I call him daddy oranges

also its not hard to ahelp, type out "gotta go please offer my body to ghosts" and then dip. thats literally all you hae to do.

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:40 pm**

The admins will give you a note for consideration in future punishments and try to track you down to give you a warning if you have to go AFK for a long period of time or stop playing abruptly without having the time or remembering to send them a message first. It didn't used to be like this, but nowadays events in your life having more urgency than the time it takes to tell the admins goodnight is something you will come to regret. If the admin Stickymayhem would preach consequentialism instead of veganism in adminbus maybe the other admins wouldn't have this problem with their thinking. Maybe somebody could code something that keeps track of people who have gone AFK. I don't know. I'm just a box in a cage on a near-empty station tired of dealing with a BPD captain. I'm sorry. I should've known better than to close that window without asking my leave of you, Vekter.

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