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https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 23&t=28886Potentially. Which would indeed suck and be completely unwarranted given the circumstances. But without any word on that subject from them, the headmins, or people who know them personally, I as a player can only speculate.oranges wrote:obviously there's more to it than the surface level isn't there, they must have got some kind of abuse from someone privately
Please, this was such a minor thing that I can't even believe these complaints are made in good faith. Let this be a lesson to any admins going forth that you should literally fucking never interact with manuelshitters because they will cry and whine like babies over their precious "ARE PEE" being "ruined" should you do anything to impact their roundFarquaar wrote:I just wanted them to own up and promise they wouldn't abuse their admin powers in the future.
You stupid?keepforgettingpw wrote:Please, this was such a minor thing that I can't even believe these complaints are made in good faith. Let this be a lesson to any admins going forth that you should literally fucking never interact with manuelshitters because they will cry and whine like babies over their precious "ARE PEE" being "ruined" should you do anything to impact their roundFarquaar wrote:I just wanted them to own up and promise they wouldn't abuse their admin powers in the future.
Had this been done on the other servers, nobody would have batted and eye and would have just had fun fighting a blob
ABUSE does not mean what you think it means, because if this is something someone would call abuse, I shudder to think of what you'd call someone actually maliciously using buttons to fuck the server over for no reason
pick your battles, and have them make sense
If they truly felt bad about it, maybe this is what they thought the only proper way to make up for their mistake would be. After all, Saying "sorry" in any form of sincerity often isn't enough to make up for a lot of things. I don't want to go too much into armchair psychologist though since it's not like Paxilmaniac has died so they could just respond themselfFarquaar wrote:I don't know the circumstances around their retirement, and I don't know them well enough to speak on any level of specificity. However, if it really is case that they chose to walk out in a huff instead of just saying "Sorry, it won't happen again", then I can't say that I'm terribly distraught about their departure..
you okay?keepforgettingpw wrote:Please, this was such a minor thing that I can't even believe these complaints are made in good faith. Let this be a lesson to any admins going forth that you should literally fucking never interact with manuelshitters because they will cry and whine like babies over their precious "ARE PEE" being "ruined" should you do anything to impact their roundFarquaar wrote:I just wanted them to own up and promise they wouldn't abuse their admin powers in the future.
Had this been done on the other servers, nobody would have batted and eye and would have just had fun fighting a blob
ABUSE does not mean what you think it means, because if this is something someone would call abuse, I shudder to think of what you'd call someone actually maliciously using buttons to fuck the server over for no reason
pick your battles, and have them make sense
I want to read the funny thread but this is way too long can someone sum it up in a sentence with some emojis for me?Owegno wrote:Since some people here are questioning me and other admins who were on at the time the other admins I believe were busy training an AC as I noticed they were in the training channel at the time and I don't blame them for not getting into an admin fight over this.
As for myself I wasn't really aware of what was going on in the round initially, hence why I didn't do anything. I got on the server to see Paxil buffing a blob which I thought was spawned by random event. I spent most of that round trying to figure out the situation, first by trying to learn how blob code works to see how much they buffed so I could judge if it was balanced or not (and it is takes me time to figure out code, hence my original false belief that they effectively gave the blob 5 free resource nodes, but I now know that the blob_points and blob_bonus_points uses a separate, longer timer from the ones resource nodes use). I did question their buffing of the blob and was going to remove the buffs once it was clear the blob was too powerful for the crew, but the blob rerolled before I could do that which had removed the buffs. I was considering using admin explosions to nerf the blob a bit more to make it a balanced fight for the crew (as the blob was at around 250/400 at this point if my memory serves), but I decided to check admin logs first and spent the rest of the round reading them, as a result I missed them later buffing the blob after it rerolled.
By the time the round ended I was nearly done reading the admin logs but had not fully formulated an opinion on it and didn't want to argue with Paxil given that I thought a headmin approved their actions. I only realized that Jimmius may have just been making a joke and not approving Paxil as I finalized my post. However I firmly believe in transparency so when people in OOC asked if the blob was admin spawned I told OOC that yes, it was admin spawned, and that it was buffed by the admin which spawned. However I did get it wrong about how much it was buffed which is my fault. I should have kept quiet on the amount until I was certain on it and I apologize for that.
To conclude on reasons why I didn't yell at Paxil for it is because I was uncertain on how much they buffed the blob (and when I was somewhat certain I went to fix it, but the blob fixed itself) I did question them on it and that is what led me to look at the admin logs to see what led up to this. I don't want to yell at someone when I don't know the situation, it could be that the round did in fact need to end for a valid reason. I then discovered that Paxil had gotten approval from Jimmius (or what I thought was approval, although it may just be Jimmius's tactic approval but I thought it was overt approval at the time) and I'm not able to overrule a headmin. Instead I tried to gather a full picture of what had happened so I could bring it up with a different headmin and I was considering making a complaint so this could be handled in a transparent manner and the incident had already happened.
tl;dr: Other admins were busy training an AC, I arrived at the end of the incident, saw something I disagreed with and thought it was headmin approved. It's taken me several hours to fully figure it out and even then I am uncertain on if it was headmin approved.
Swept wrote: I want to read the funny thread but this is way too long can someone sum it up in a sentence with some emojis for me?
HehQustinnus wrote:
first and last time we'll see goof test something locally
one more admin downRaveRadbury wrote:This is a really unfortunate outcome, I don't think anybody wanted this to happen.
Im just not dumb enough to be easily caughtShadowflame909 wrote:Oranges can do whatever they want and the community will lick their feet with pride. Truly cult-like (How did they obtain this much community influence??)
Timonk wrote:I don't have a dog
Swept wrote:Also I don't think goofball signal boosting this shit on Plebbit did Paxil any favors lol
I propose to good all non-r/ss13 postersQbmax32 wrote:Swept wrote:Also I don't think goofball signal boosting this shit on Plebbit did Paxil any favors lol
I propose to bad all r/ss13 posters
What kind of punishment can actually be given out when they already deadminned themselves (standard punishment for an egregious complaint)? Are you going to ban them after they've already decided they don't want to play on the server?iamgoofball wrote:>admin griefs manuel
>quits to avoid punishment
>not only isn't punished, but headmins claim they did nothing wrong
lmao, and you dipshits keep bothering to make complaints? admins will never ever face punishment for intentional malice against players.
you can't punish someone who leaves, but you can put your foot down on any future grief attempts by other admins who may get inspired by saying that hey, no, this isn't fucking cool and won't be happening againEOBGames wrote:What kind of punishment can actually be given out when they already deadminned themselves (standard punishment for an egregious complaint)? Are you going to ban them after they've already decided they don't want to play on the server?iamgoofball wrote:>admin griefs manuel
>quits to avoid punishment
>not only isn't punished, but headmins claim they did nothing wrong
lmao, and you dipshits keep bothering to make complaints? admins will never ever face punishment for intentional malice against players.