/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:16 pm**

to stop myself nutting my peanut all over the admin complaint I'ma make a thread for our gallery boys (and gals):

Ban Appeal - https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=29454

Admin Complaint - https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 23&t=29456

For the nerds too cool to read FNR, guy gets told to use one account, signs in later with another account, gets banned. Appeals the ban only for the admin to dismiss it outright with a image macro and gets mad enough to double dip into admin complaint before the appeal has run it's course.

Honestly if the guy would chill out for a moment and argue his case with less indignant rage it shouldn't be hard to convince a head jannie to unban, that's assuming there isn't more to the story. The important thing is to impress on people you will only use one account in the future and had (or have) no intent on multikeying.

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 12:35 pm**

are both accounts perma'd or just the alt

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:10 pm**

I presume both because banning the alt to force them onto one account is nothing special. The ban reason posted suggests to me the main got banned, that said I'm not 100% sure because the OP is 'tarding out and the banning admin isn't explaining the ban any further to the point some other admin came along and posted the actual ban reason. It's sort of bizare, on one hand I always joked about how based it would be to just post "lol" and close the thread in response to a ban appeal from a shitter, however in reality it's unhelpful and should only be done for people like nyakuza where it's clear to everyone they don't deserve to be taken seriously anymore.

Better to just lay out your reasoning for the ban and give the player a chance to admit their mistake or show contempt, after that grant or deny appeal. If denied keep it open for a little longer to see if some headmin wants to overrule and jobs a goodun, no point making it messy especially if it's a slam dunk ban.

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:14 pm**

When you name your ban appeal account "pepsiisshit", calmly arguing your case seems like a ship that sailed long ago.

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:24 pm**

pepsiisshit wrote:BYOND account: BYOND account

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 3:55 pm**

even in the nyaakuza ban appeal he's taken seriously by the one who first responds
granted, vekter apparently didn't know enough about him to recognize the name and immediately say "no, lol", but being the banning admin and immediately responding with "when the" instead of anything else isn't a good look

the guy's a hostile shitter but I guess if this was the sort of response you get it'd feel a little more reasonable

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:01 pm**

These logs are pretty phenomenal:

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 54#p606942

Playing as the RD, iseeallthetime decides to demote someone for being crippled. (???) Rest of science staff objects and HoS refuses to back him up. So naturally, he retaliates by destroying the R&D servers.

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[2021-07-13 08:43:17.704] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i'm just gonna meta your retarded asses next round" (Research Division (138,95,2))
[2021-07-13 08:43:23.710] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "since y'all are fucking retards" (Security Post - Research Division (134,97,2))
[2021-07-13 08:44:39.602] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "holy fuck you should actually kill yourselves in real life" (Security Post - Research Division (134,100,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:02.716] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "kill yourself" (Security Post - Research Division (134,99,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:04.316] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "in real life" (Security Post - Research Division (134,99,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:15.176] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "like actually kill yourself" (Research Division (131,99,2))

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 4:56 pm**

capn_monkeypaw wrote:These logs are pretty phenomenal:

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 54#p606942

Playing as the RD, iseeallthetime decides to demote someone for being crippled. (???) Rest of science staff objects and HoS refuses to back him up. So naturally, he retaliates by destroying the R&D servers.

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[2021-07-13 08:43:17.704] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i'm just gonna meta your retarded asses next round" (Research Division (138,95,2))
[2021-07-13 08:43:23.710] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "since y'all are fucking retards" (Security Post - Research Division (134,97,2))
[2021-07-13 08:44:39.602] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "holy fuck you should actually kill yourselves in real life" (Security Post - Research Division (134,100,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:02.716] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "kill yourself" (Security Post - Research Division (134,99,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:04.316] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "in real life" (Security Post - Research Division (134,99,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:15.176] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "like actually kill yourself" (Research Division (131,99,2))

hostile shitter is hostile shitter, no surprise
but it's really not that hard to give a professional send-off before devolving into "lol"

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 6:40 pm**

yeah, thread is pretty much over once you got a rundown of exactly what the behavior was in game for the admin not to even entertain the idea of giving them the benefit of the doubt. Shitter won't be missed.

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:00 pm**

lol. Can we just leave the perma on account that they're an underaged pissbaby?

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:37 pm**

can't imagine why anyone would want to overturn a ban for a hostile shitter
rules 1, 2, and 5 cover it more than enough already

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:47 pm**

Gigapuddi420 wrote: Honestly if the guy would chill out for a moment and argue his case with less indignant rage it shouldn't be hard to convince a head jannie to unban, that's assuming there isn't more to the story. The important thing is to impress on people you will only use one account in the future and had (or have) no intent on multikeying.

Yeah I don't buy their "checking to see what the station looked like without lights" defense. You don't go through the trouble of a VPN and an alt to look at lights. Probably was to test if their alt would be caught.

On another note, Pepsi's meme image response caused him to start raging and throwing away any legitimate chance he had of appealing the ban. This happened also on other ban appeal threads with other admins. The admin replies with something a bit cheeky which just enrages the appealer who is, theoretically, trying to martial a legitimate defense for themselves. It always is a bit bothersome to see this, because you feel that the guy might have been able to get a better chance.

Being heard by the admin in your appeal makes all the difference in the world. Even if they hear you and deny you, at least you felt like your arguments were heard. But if they don't engage with any of the defenses you make for yourself, you feel confused and cheated in a way. Then you throw out the seriousness and respond in-kind, which subsequently will toss your chances of the headmins accepting the appeal.

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:05 pm**

i think i played a round with this idiot yesterday i will verify after my purifying shower it was really really funny

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:11 pm**

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:26 pm**

I fucking love pepsiman

some shitters don't fucking deserve the time of day

this guy comes across as

I literally came here to inconvenience you, why are you bullying **ME** it's not fair

whiny baby

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:48 pm**

It is certainly understandable that an admin, after reviewing the conduct of the person in question, would react to their poor appeal form flippantly. This however, should not be encouraged. It would be fair to have the first reply be rational and transparent for the person appealing, as well as the general public to see, because while the admin in this instance may have been well aware of the character and motivation of this person, the general public is not, and it is certainly a possibility that these flippant remarks will be used in other bans to, amongst other potential reasons, hide admin misconduct.

I want to draw your attention to a news story that circulated around three years ago:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ge ... pp-n895066

In this article it is described, how two police officer essentially flipped a coin to decide, wheter a person was going to be arrested or not. The person in question was hardly a criminal however, she was in reality a hairdresser and late to work, so she speeded to make it in time and was caught by these officers. To these several year long veterans, this likely did not even register, they must have thought of her as just another reckless driver, needing to be taught a lesson. This should show you, that these disconnections from the common people that you are engaging with, do happen, even to oath-sworn police officers, meant to protect and serve the public. As an administrator of an online gaming community, you are even more likely to fall into this kind of neglience. So I would plead kindly, please do extend the courtesy of explaining your reasoning in your first reply, for the sake of transparency and fairness.

With warm regards
-BONERMASTER

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:55 pm**

YEAH I DID ACTUALLY this should give you some idea of what kind of player he is. i’d like to clarify i didn’t ahelp this incident because i didn’t feel like it was necessary, i simply dealt with it IC
earlier today at like 6 am i wanted to play a round and i was admittedly tired so i could simply not deal with idiots.
i go as scientist, prepare to make a maxcap. a paraplegic girl comes in to give me a photo so i could save it in my album. the RD (this dude) comes in.

08:25:19 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "oi" (124, 86, 2) Research Division
08:25:22 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "get the cripple out" (124, 86, 2) Research Division
08:25:30 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "no cripples in my science lab." (126, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:25:39 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "go fix your legs or leave."

at this point, i already knew this guy was going to be garbage so i kindly gave him my opinion

08:25:34 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "shut the fuck up" (129, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:25:37 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "bartholomew" (129, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab

at this point he leaves and apparently calls security

08:26:17 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "Yo can we get some sec to science? I've got someone I wanna demote and I'm sure they'll fight." (128, 89, 2) Research Division
08:28:31 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "yo" (142, 90, 2) Research and Development
08:28:32 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "you sec?" (142, 90, 2) Research and Development
08:28:43 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "Help me detain a bitch long enough to demote their ID" (142, 90, 2) Research and Development
08:28:52 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "Jill something"

then he walks back in with the hos. i might have missed the order in some or a log or two but you can verify everything, round is 165855

08:29:26 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "this bitch" (125, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:26 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "what" (128, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:28 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "hello?" (128, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:30 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i need your ID jill" (125, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:32 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "demoting you" (126, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:33 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "what for?" (128, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:35 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "what for?" (128, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:35 SAY Jusuph/(Brian Blyant) "RD" (124, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:36 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "for mouthing off." (127, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:37 SAY Jusuph/(Brian Blyant) "what did they do" (124, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:37 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "I'm making" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:38 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "a toxins" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:43 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "You told Gwen she could not be disabled here" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:46 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "I don't accept backtalkers." (127, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:47 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "Which is insane" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:51 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "I told her to get her legs fixed." (127, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:53 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "This is science." (127, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:29:57 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "That's what is done in science." (127, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:00 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "She is simply disabled" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:00 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "Yes brian." (127, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:08 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "I told them" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:09 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "they talked shit" (127, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:11 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) ""Shut the fuck up"" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:15 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "because they told Gwen to fix her legs" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:16 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "so they're not allowed in science anymore" (127, 78,
2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:16 SAY Jusuph/(Brian Blyant) "that isn't enough reason to demote someone" (124, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:19 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "she's in a wheelchair" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:19 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "it's not" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:21 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "It totally is" (127, 78, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:24 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "He's a mouthbreathing imbecile" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:28 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "Go deepthroat a chainsaw" (128, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:30:29 SAY Jusuph/(Brian Blyant) "he's got a valid point" (124, 79, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab

the RD shoves me for a bit, i tell him to fuck off because i’m doing my job. both him and the HoS leave
he proceeds to.. break the r&d servers with a saw? (a lot of logs so i’m not copypasting all of them)

08:31:20 ATTACK Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) has attacked [�R&D Server fd6] with the circular saw (135, 71, 2) Research Division Server Room

then he comes back and tries to hit me twice with a baton (but it wasn’t extended) so he didn’t stun me lol.

08:38:44 ATTACK Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) has attacked Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) with telescopic baton (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 100) (124, 73, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:38:45 ATTACK Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) has attacked Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) with telescopic baton (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 100) (124, 73, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:38:46 ATTACK Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) has shoved Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) (NEWHP: 80) (124, 72, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:38:47 ATTACK Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) has attacked Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) with telescopic baton (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 100) (124, 74, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:38:47 ATTACK Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) has shoved Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) with onto the reinforced table (table) (NEWHP: 80) (125, 74, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:38:48 ATTACK Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) has kicks Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 80) (125, 74, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:38:48 ATTACK Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) has shoved Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) (NEWHP: 80) (125, 74, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:38:51 ATTACK Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) has stun attacked Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) with the telescopic baton (NEWHP: 80) (124, 75, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab

then someone else comes in, being fully aware of the fact the RD is a complete idiot, fight continues, I leave to the entrance of science because I really don’t want to deal with him, and of course, he complains about me “stealing from him” (simply taking his baton)

08:39:09 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "bitch" (125, 73, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:39:11 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "gimme ym shit" (125, 73, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:39:12 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "Insane" (124, 76, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:39:15 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "You come in here" (124, 76, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:39:16 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "to hit me" (124, 76, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:39:17 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "and cry" (125, 77, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:40:18 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "Bitch stole something from me" (134, 91, 2) Research Division
08:39:36 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "insane" (125, 81, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:39:42 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "good job Rd" (124, 80, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab
08:39:45 SAY Wubli/(Jill DeSouza) "you achieved nothing" (130, 80, 2) Toxins Mixing Lab

he got arrested after this and i’m not looking up logs for everyone but here’s what he said to the people arresting him

08:40:34 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "I'm kinda allowed to decide who's in science and not" (138, 88, 2) Research Division
08:40:45 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "It's not really for HoS to decide" (138, 87, 2) Research Division
08:41:00 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "And I don't want them here" (138, 86, 2) Research Division
08:41:03 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "as RD that's my choice" (138, 86, 2) Research Division
08:41:12 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "Because I said so" (138, 86, 2) Research Division
08:41:17 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "I don't have to answer to you" (138, 86, 2) Research Division
08:41:32 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "and you're a retarded greytider" (139, 89, 2) Research Division
08:42:47 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "the fuck are you saying you found" (140, 92, 2) Research Division
08:42:49 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "you fucking morons" (140, 92, 2) Research Division

and you’d say, that’s it for his tale, right? well, after a while, i met the hos in the hallways and asked him what happened to the RD. i’ll let the logs tell you what happened:

08:43:11 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "uncuff me so i can suicide" (139, 93, 2) Research Division
08:43:17 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i'm just gonna meta your retarded asses next round" (138, 95, 2) Research Division
08:43:23 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "since y'all are fucking retards" (134, 97, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:44:08 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "yeah you do" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:44:11 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "you fuckasses stole it" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:44:19 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "what kind of retarded security attacks RD" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:44:24 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "for trying to get rid of someone in the department" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:44:39 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "holy fuck you should actually kill yourselves in real life" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:44:42 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i didn't have anything on me" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:44:45 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "you lying retard" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:44:52 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i had nanite controllers on me" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:44:58 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "hos is fucking lying" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:45:08 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "wow look at that, this greytiding moron is lying" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:45:11 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "funny how that works" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:45:17 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "there were no fucking parts on me" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:45:22 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "yes i've walked in there" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:45:24 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i'm the fucking RD" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:45:28 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "you stupid moron" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:45:39 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "yes i've walked into the fucking room" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:45:46 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i walk everywhere i have access to" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:46:01 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "so you attack me, strip my stuff and then let all my shit get stolen with absolutely no proof" (134, 100, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:46:02 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "kill yourself" (134, 99, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:46:04 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "in real life" (134, 99, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:46:06 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "you fucking moron" (132, 99, 2) Security Post - Research Division
08:46:15 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "like actually kill yourself" (131, 99, 2) Research Division
08:46:25 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "please put a gun in your mouth and swallow the bullet" (136, 74, 2) Research Division Server Room
08:46:39 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "yes i've walked in there you fucking moron" (136, 74, 2) Research Division Server Room
08:46:43 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "just like anyone else" (136, 74, 2) Research Division Server Room
08:46:58 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "just like that fucking moron right there that's been going in" (135, 74, 2) Research Division Server Room
08:47:21 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "please actually kill yourself" (140, 72, 2) Research Division
08:47:30 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "like gut yourself or shoot yourself" (140, 72, 2) Research Division
08:47:40 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "because i honestly think you should die in real life" (140, 72, 2) Research Division
08:48:03 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "fucking retarded shit sec being allowed to attack people out of nowhere with no proof" (126, 90, 2) Research Division
08:48:10 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "so please" (123, 86, 2) Research Division
08:48:13 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "slit your own throat" (123, 86, 2) Research Division
08:48:27 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i was trying to take the ID from someone who was not allowewd to be in science" (118, 85, 2) Nanite Lab
08:48:33 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "with my baton, that i have, for that reason" (119, 85, 2) Nanite Lab
08:48:40 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "like you don't even know what the fuck your role is" (119, 85, 2) Nanite Lab
08:48:50 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "please actually cut your throat" (129, 89, 2) Research Division
08:49:07 SAY Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "HoS doesn't have the power to demote RD"
08:49:11 ACCESS Logout: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer)

and that's the story of the epic RD Iseeallthetime who we have sadly lost today. thank u for reading, like and subscribe

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 9:56 pm**

BONERMASTER wrote:It is certainly understandable that an admin, after reviewing the conduct of the person in question, would react to their poor appeal form flippantly. This however, should not be encouraged. It would be fair to have the first reply be rational and transparent for the person appealing, as well as the general public to see, because while the admin in this instance may have been well aware of the character and motivation of this person, the general public is not, and it is certainly a possibility that these flippant remarks will be used in other bans to, amongst other potential reasons, hide admin misconduct.

I want to draw your attention to a news story that circulated around three years ago:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ge ... pp-n895066

In this article it is described, how two police officer essentially flipped a coin to decide, wheter a person was going to be arrested or not. The person in question was hardly a criminal however, she was in reality a hairdresser and late to work, so she speeded to make it in time and was caught by these officers. To these several year long veterans, this likely did not even register, they must have thought of her as just another reckless driver, needing to be taught a lesson. This should show you, that these disconnections from the common people that you are engaging with, do happen, even to oath-sworn police officers, meant to protect and serve the public. As an administrator of an online gaming community, you are even more likely to fall into this kind of neglience. So I would plead kindly, please do extend the courtesy of explaining your reasoning in your first reply, for the sake of transparency and fairness.

With warm regards
-BONERMASTER

They named the thread pepsiisshit and it had to be changed, the flippancy was reasonable and well deserved Mr. Boner

-EDIT-

wubli wrote: INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE

Okay I second an unappealable perma.

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:11 pm**

WHATEVER MAN

Posted: **Tue Jul 13, 2021 10:18 pm**

underaged, permaban

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:09 am**

oranges wrote:I fucking love pepsiman

some shitters don't fucking deserve the time of day

this guy comes across as

I literally came here to inconvenience you, why are you bullying **ME** it's not fair

whiny baby

Sometimes I'm iffy about Oranges being hostile and short-fused

This is not one of those times

This dude absolutely deserved every single thing he got.

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 1:39 am**

"i'm going to bully someone for being different to me in a way i find shameful and now my power is taken and i'm humiliated so i'm going to lash out as viciously as i can"

many lessons to be had here

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:15 am**

Y'know, had he come in and apologized saying he didn't know that would count and asked nicely, we probably would've been better about unbanning him.

And, y'know. Not calling his account pepsiisshit.

Omega_DarkPotato wrote:even in the nyaakuza ban appeal he's taken seriously by the one who first responds
granted, vekter apparently didn't know enough about him to recognize the name and immediately say "no, lol", but being the banning admin and immediately responding with "when the" instead of anything else isn't a good look

the guy's a hostile shitter but I guess if this was the sort of response you get it'd feel a little more reasonable

I can't even remember what I had for breakfast last Monday, how do you expect me to remember this dude past "he was kind of a shitter"?

capn_monkeypaw wrote:These logs are pretty phenomenal:

https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 54#p606942

Playing as the RD, iseeallthetime decides to demote someone for being crippled. (???) Rest of science staff objects and HoS refuses to back him up. So naturally, he retaliates by destroying the R&D servers.

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[2021-07-13 08:43:17.704] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "i'm just gonna meta your retarded asses next round" (Research Division (138,95,2))
[2021-07-13 08:43:23.710] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "since y'all are fucking retards" (Security Post - Research Division (134,97,2))
[2021-07-13 08:44:39.602] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "holy fuck you should actually kill yourselves in real life" (Security Post - Research Division (134,100,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:02.716] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "kill yourself" (Security Post - Research Division (134,99,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:04.316] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "in real life" (Security Post - Research Division (134,99,2))
[2021-07-13 08:46:15.176] SAY: Iseeallthetime/(Bartholomew Vanleer) "like actually kill yourself" (Research Division (131,99,2))

lmao okay he deserved it

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:27 am**

this just screams underage to me but at the same time why the fuck would you play ss13 when you could play fortnite??

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:05 am**

wubli wrote:spicy logs

bring back ban requests.

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:07 am**

I don’t get why the appeal needed to be locked. Let the guy dig his hole even deeper if he wants to.

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:09 am**

Farquaar wrote:I don’t get why the appeal needed to be locked. Let the guy dig his hole even deeper if he wants to.

I think you all might be addicted to ban appeal drama.

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:13 am**

Farquaar wrote:I don’t get why the appeal needed to be locked. Let the guy dig his hole even deeper if he wants to.

It's not considered nice to bait the mentally ill

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:50 am**

sinfulbliss wrote: On another note, Pepsi's meme image response caused him to start raging and throwing away any legitimate chance he had of appealing the ban. This happened also on other ban appeal threads with other admins. The admin replies with something a bit cheeky which just enrages the appealer who is, theoretically, trying to martial a legitimate defense for themselves. It always is a bit bothersome to see this, because you feel that the guy might have been able to get a better chance.

seems like a great karen detector
dude couldn't even keep himself from throwing a tantrum for one post
this should be made policy and put in the FNR rules that perma appeals will receive one (1) meme reply at the discretion of the banning admin just to see if they start screaming like a colicky infant

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:56 am**

Screemonster wrote: dude couldn't even keep himself from throwing a tantrum for one post

He couldn't even make it through setting his username

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:25 am**

MrStonedOne wrote:
Farquaar wrote:I don’t get why the appeal needed to be locked. Let the guy dig his hole even deeper if he wants to.
I think you all might be addicted to ban appeal drama.

There are worse vices out there

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:51 am**

@MrStonedOne

MrStonedOne wrote:
wubli wrote:spicy logs
bring back ban requests.

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:04 am**

Farquaar wrote:I don’t get why the appeal needed to be locked. Let the guy dig his hole even deeper if he wants to.

The hole already resembles an oil well, we don't really learn anything from letting it get a little deeper

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:59 am**

oranges wrote:I fucking love pepsiman

If you love him then put a ring on him!!

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 4:40 pm**

No he tried to demote me for telling him "shut the fuck up" when he said "fix your legs or fuck off" he, didnt try to demote the paraplegic girl
Thanks to the fact I defended her I now have three catgirl gfs (they all smoke weed)

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:08 pm**

You cant fix paraplegia in ss13 mid round anyway

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 6:50 pm**

Super Aggro Crag wrote:You cant fix paraplegia in ss13 mid round anyway

yeah you can with cyborg legs, learned that recently through her

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:15 pm**

wubli wrote: Thanks to the fact I defended her I now have three catgirl gfs (they all smoke weed)

Envy

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:22 pm**

wubli wrote:
Super Aggro Crag wrote:You cant fix paraplegia in ss13 mid round anyway
yeah you can with cyborg legs, learned that recently through her

That must be new or something cuz otherwise im pretty sure people would have forcenuggeted and cyborlegged Nina-Jay

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:58 pm**

MrStonedOne wrote:
Farquaar wrote:I don’t get why the appeal needed to be locked. Let the guy dig his hole even deeper if he wants to.
I think you all might be addicted to ban appeal drama.

bring back ban requests

Posted: **Wed Jul 14, 2021 11:51 pm**

Farquaar wrote:I don’t get why the appeal needed to be locked. Let the guy dig his hole even deeper if he wants to.

I locked it because 1) we at least somewhat attempt to keep ban appeal threads from devolving into a dumpster fire and 2) I didn't want to see the new post indicator and it just being Iseeallthetime calling Pepsi a slur or something.

Posted: **Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:34 pm**

morto... this subforum is literally called Off Topic...

Posted: **Thu Jul 15, 2021 9:10 pm**

Timonk wrote:morto... this subforum is literally called Off Topic...

To be specific, I deleted things unrelated to the topic at hand to prevent it devolving into shitposting

Posted: **Fri Jul 16, 2021 12:10 am**

Timonk wrote:morto... this subforum is literally called Off Topic...

Fuck off, the board name relates to the topic of the forum as a whole.

MrStonedOne wrote:
wubli wrote:spicy logs
bring back ban requests.

You have the power...

Posted: **Fri Jul 16, 2021 2:16 pm**

I was the HoS that round, all the logs already there so, I'll just say watching him freak out was pretty funny. Before started telling us to kill ourselves, he asked me to take his cuffs off so he can kill himself since he was pretty much unarmed I took him to the sec outpost in sci and took his cuffs off he tried killing me with a plant and promptly failed.

Posted: **Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:09 pm**

let him free

Posted: **Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:38 pm**

i will only let him free if you join the tg discord (youre banned)

/tg/Station 13

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