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Timonk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:36 am BYOND account: timonk
Character name: some random emergency squad name
Ban type: Deathsquad, Sentience Potion Spawn
Ban length: 20160 minutes (2 weeks)
Ban reason: Spawned in as an ERT and decided to immediately just start shoving and tabling the commander. Was gibbed. Rather not waste time or the spawn on someone who wont take it seriously.
Time ban was placed: 2022-01-12 23:41:52
Server you were playing on when banned: Terry

SuperNovaa41 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:53 pm mfw you act like a shitter in an admin spawned ghost role and get punished for it
Why are you even appealing this bro what is your issue

Sylphet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:43 pm

CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:27 pm

Sylphet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:09 pm Timonk played a stupid game and won a stupid prize by getting gibbed. The only difference here is that if someone fucked up my event, I know that I'd be annoyed. And I'd feel obligated as a jannie to have someone else deal with it because of that. I know that I couldn't be impartial, but that wasn't done here. It's the fact that the long term consequences are coming from the same person managing the event, who has some emotional involvement in it that bothers me about this.

When you dress it up with the extra details of "Admin spawned event -> player takes role and immediately uses it to just be a shitter and not actually play to the event -> Player gets slapped" it's more or less okay, but if you strip those extra details away, it's still "Something is done to admin -> admin punishes" which is a weird precedent, is what I think you're trying to say if I understand correctly?

It's definitely a strange situation. I can totally get the reasoning behind the ban, as it's pretty minor and at least means if there's a repeat situation any time soon they can at least know there'll be one less potential shitter ruining it. But the fact that it leaves a lingering note which paints a picture of the player makes the fact that it's being left by the admin who was griefed an uncomfy precedent.

Pretty much this. I hate the idea of do something to admin personally -> admin handles punishment as a precedent a lot more than I have a problem with the ban. It's not a weird precedent, it's an actively bad one. Between the hostile tone of the jannie in handling the appeal and the number of admins trying to justify it because they don't like what the player did, I think it's important to argue it. Allowing stuff like this damages trust in the admin team and people's faith that they'll be handled fairly, which is much, much more important than one guy doing a bad thing getting punished.

Timonk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:00 pm its an admins rebellion against the players and it started with me

Timonk

playing on manuel

confused rock wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:18 pm oh nooooo so horrible the admin was SHOVED that bastard probably wasted like 10 seconds of the admin's time in the time it took to gib them, but worse, the admin had to waste MORE time banning this man because of those several shoves!

Maybe timonk just thought everyone would laugh.

GamerAndYeahMick wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:11 am certified timonk moment

Armhulen wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:33 am that means you timonk

Sylphet wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:12 pm

Timonk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:00 pm its an admins rebellion against the players and it started with me

the retirement home pink cat sjw-mins (singular) stand with the shitters in the rebellion, slip them all

vive la révolution

cacogen wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:41 pm Banning this T.I. monk character for shoving him onto a table and then repeatedly tabling him was baby-tier. I understand gibbing him, but let it end there. Also, I deeply understand the impulse to attack one's betters.

Timonk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:36 amafter which i got gibbed and bwoinked with "im not done with you either".

Timonk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:12 am

cacogen wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:41 pm Banning this T.I. monk character for shoving him onto a table and then repeatedly tabling him was baby-tier. I understand gibbing him, but let it end there. Also, I deeply understand the impulse to attack one's betters.

I tabled him once

Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:17 am

Timonk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:12 am

cacogen wrote: ↑Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:41 pm Banning this T.I. monk character for shoving him onto a table and then repeatedly tabling him was baby-tier. I understand gibbing him, but let it end there. Also, I deeply understand the impulse to attack one's betters.

I tabled him once

did he once say "stop"

Sylphet wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:43 am We have a button to ghost people and a button to offer bodies to ghosts. The role could have been easily offered up to someone who would take it seriously without the gibbing and oh no now they don't have a medic and it's all your fault like honestly the more time passes the more this looks cringe and excessive to me. There were so many better ways to handle it that don't waste the time of literally everyone involved with this.

Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:45 am its

a

game

dude

CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:29 pm

Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:45 am its

a

game

dude

It sure is! Which means that a 2 week inability to play something they clearly show they won't use properly anyway and would probably only result in ONE missed opportunity at the most isn't really a big deal to their life, huh?

If you join a game with RP...you're expected to RP...Shocking, I know.

Timonk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:44 pm

CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:29 pm

Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:45 am its

a

game

dude

It sure is! Which means that a 2 week inability to play something they clearly show they won't use properly anyway and would probably only result in ONE missed opportunity at the most isn't really a big deal to their life, huh?

If you join a game with RP...you're expected to RP...Shocking, I know.

bootlicking RP isnt big on terry...

Timonk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:27 pm *cringe*

iprice wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:33 pm *cringe*

Thunder11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:17 pm

Timonk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:27 pm *cringe*

iprice wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:33 pm *cringe*

Posting in a peanut thread you're the subject of is mega cringe stop doing it

CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:29 pm

Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:45 am its

a

game

dude

It sure is! Which means that a 2 week inability to play something they clearly show they won't use properly anyway and would probably only result in ONE missed opportunity at the most isn't really a big deal to their life, huh?

If you join a game with RP...you're expected to RP...Shocking, I know.

iprice wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:33 pm My god the thread that never stops giving haha.

Everything here, from "it's fine", "it seems a long ban" to "omg admin abuse" and hypothetical constructions about future possible problems.

And now Mr. Singular Perspective would like us to consider there are only two options in life - bootlicking or being a shitter.

I guess peanut threads deserve their rep, no-one learns anything, it's just an outpouring of opinions that have managed to get more and more extreme and ridiculous over time.



Not that anything will be learned from this, of course, but there are a million shades of grey between just being a shitter and bootlicking. No-one else in the ERT was a shitter, no-one bootlicked either, they were a pretty standard ERT that required herding into the shuttle.

They just ... played like a normal human being in that position (shocking!). No shittery, no bootlicking, no gibbing for anyone else. Your eyes are truly opened to new possibilities for your future behaviour! Glad to have enlightened you! If something was learned this whole thing wasn't a complete waste of time!

Role play wasn't even necessary, you could have said nothing and just boarded the shuttle and I wouldn't have cared or noticed.

The bar is literally "dont be a turd". Imagine expecting people to just not be turds. Imagine going to appeals and headmins because you have a right to be a turd.

Imagine if we ever had a peanut thread over anything actually controversial. Eesh.

Thunder11 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:17 pm

Timonk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:27 pm *cringe*

iprice wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:33 pm *cringe*

Posting in a peanut thread you're the subject of is mega cringe stop doing it

iprice wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:33 pm My god the thread that never stops giving haha.

Everything here, from "it's fine", "it seems a long ban" to "omg admin abuse" and hypothetical constructions about future possible problems.

And now Mr. Singular Perspective would like us to consider there are only two options in life - bootlicking or being a shitter.

I guess peanut threads deserve their rep, no-one learns anything, it's just an outpouring of opinions that have managed to get more and more extreme and ridiculous over time.



Not that anything will be learned from this, of course, but there are a million shades of grey between just being a shitter and bootlicking. No-one else in the ERT was a shitter, no-one bootlicked either, they were a pretty standard ERT that required herding into the shuttle.

They just ... played like a normal human being in that position (shocking!). No shittery, no bootlicking, no gibbing for anyone else. Your eyes are truly opened to new possibilities for your future behaviour! Glad to have enlightened you! If something was learned this whole thing wasn't a complete waste of time!

Role play wasn't even necessary, you could have said nothing and just boarded the shuttle and I wouldn't have cared or noticed.

The bar is literally "dont be a turd". Imagine expecting people to just not be turds. Imagine going to appeals and headmins because you have a right to be a turd.

Imagine if we ever had a peanut thread over anything actually controversial. Eesh.