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Secoff gets dunked, immediately calls for admin peanut

Post by blackdav123 » #639306

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Security officer finds engineer in maint hacking open a door with nothing of value inside, tries to wordlessly baton said engineer, loses his baton and is buckled to a pipe.

Why do people think this is the way you should deal with minor offenses? This is a roleplaying game so you should at least give the slightest courtesy when arresting someone for something that matters very little like hacking into some dumbass door and ask why they are doing it before you whip out your weapons.
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Post by massa » #639311

I always like to ask why people are doing illegal shit, as sec/HoS. If they give me a good enough reason, I let it be. I do a little bit of orbitting if things are suspicious. But this really screams

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to me. I only really baton if I think there's an immediate threat. ALWAYS expect antags AND non antags to resist arrest. If you get clapped but not killed by a non antag and you ahelp it that is one bad look. Sec officers have meta protections but nothing in the rules should ever tell NONantags they can't evade, escape and resist as long as it isn't... Like, antag shit.
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Post by Shadowflame909 » #639316

I was reconned out of the story but as I was in science maint looking for cytology spawns, this sec off comes in looking for valids. He's shove spamming on combat mode and is following me into rooms. We end up going south of robo maint and find an engineer. He shoves past the engi, engi shoves him. I shove them and we're in there shoving for like a minute until he gets fed up and whips out a stun baton. He downs the engi, I pick up a maint beer bottle spawn and toss it at him, he chases me, stuns me, engi gets back up and wall shoves him, stealing his baton and stunning him with it. He starts screaming for help over comms and I e laugh as he gets dragged into a maint room by the engi who has now made coil cuffs.

I bounced after that but it really wasn't anything to ahelp about
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Post by wesoda25 » #639317

I remember playing a security round with zyb and they really just struck me as an asshole. Hardly communicated, went to excessive lengths to shutdown potential antags, that sort of thing. Maybe they were posing as an officer or something though? I ahelped it but don’t think anything came from it, so maybe there was a good reason I didn’t know.

Still, based off that, I’m pretty happy someone gave him what he had coming and awk didn’t punish them for it. Great discretion on their part
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Post by massa » #639323

wesoda25 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 7:20 pm I remember playing a security round with zyb and they really just struck me as an asshole. Hardly communicated, went to excessive lengths to shutdown potential antags, that sort of thing. Maybe they were posing as an officer or something though? I ahelped it but don’t think anything came from it, so maybe there was a good reason I didn’t know.

Still, based off that, I’m pretty happy someone gave him what he had coming and awk didn’t punish them for it. Great discretion on their part
Yeh you can tell this guy is also insanely horny for frags and validhunting. My mans is playing TDM, not SS13.

I like how he says a player resisting arrest is "antag behavior" like he expects everyone to belly up for him. But keeping him hostage for longer than max brig sentence is lame and worth ahelping over, honestly.
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Post by wubli » #639325

this dude and this complaint suck ass
all they do is play to find excuses to click on others and REFUSES to interact with people
i saw that ahelp in real time and wanted to pull out my hair. think about the fact they were willing to write PARAGRAPHS on why they were right but refused to interact with the other player
check their say logs that round and you'll realize they had only said like 5 things at that point (but a whole bunch in ahelps)
i will say that the cult was known by sec (afaik) and attempting to search brick was alright. not using your words ever except for crying at admins because you lost the clicking fight is lame and you suck
this dude just has the space law wiki open and is looking for literally any excuse to engage in Legitimate Sec Work and does not care a single bit for the fun of the story or enjoyment of other players
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Post by wubli » #639326

ALSO "quarter of an hour" my fucking god that's literally fifteen minutes.
i'm not saying that's not a long time in ss13 but turning fifteen minutes into "a quarter of an hour" is clearly trying to make it seem much worse
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Post by iamgoofball » #639328

wubli wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 8:36 pm ALSO "quarter of an hour" my fucking god that's literally fifteen minutes.
i'm not saying that's not a long time in ss13 but turning fifteen minutes into "a quarter of an hour" is clearly trying to make it seem much worse
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it's this fucking modern /tg/ hyper-competitive gamer horseshit, if you stick someone in the brig for literally 30 seconds they ghost on you nowadays and then your own sec team arrests you and throws you out of security for brigging a greytider instead of handing them armor + gun
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Post by blackdav123 » #639330

wubli wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 8:34 pm this dude just has the space law wiki open and is looking for literally any excuse to engage in Legitimate Sec Work and does not care a single bit for the fun of the story or enjoyment of other players
I was thinking about this aspect of the issue, and I'd argue that space law sets new players up to engage in this kind of behavior. Rewriting space law to be less validhunty and focused on stopping every door hacker and glove stealer might be a good start.
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Post by datorangebottle » #639332

Reminder that this is the same whiny baby that tried to get silicon policy changed because I dunked on him as a cyborg when he changed my laws after refusing to leave the upload alone for a good portion of the shift.
He's like the Goofball of players. If something wrongs him, he tries to change policy/admin opinion so that it doesn't get him next time.

Also lol, arresting an engineer for being in the guts of a door. Clearly an engineer should never be trying to hack a door, right?
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Post by wubli » #639335

look at this shit. i even deleted some brick monologuing but this is the extent of their communication. zybwivcz has like less than ten say logs all round
[2022-05-01 02:51:31.607] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 96.3) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:50.062] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has stun attacked Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 96.3) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:59.704] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "kolton" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,75,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:02.482] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 91.7) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (115,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:03.654] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has grabbed Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) passive grab (NEWHP: 91.7) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:05.436] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 91.7) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (119,76,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:06.724] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shot Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 96.3) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (117,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:12.753] SAY: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) "depart" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,76,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:14.012] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has stun attacked Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 91.7) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,75,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:16.863] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has stun attacked Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 91.7) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,73,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:18.758] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "kolton" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:19.522] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "fuck off" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:20.612] SAY: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) "Brick bad" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (112,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:21.384] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has stun attacked Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 91.7) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:24.362] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has attempted to handcuff Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 91.7) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:24.399] SAY: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) "Departures" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (112,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:25.324] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has grabbed Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) passive grab (NEWHP: 91.7) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:27.583] SAY: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) "Maint" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (112,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:27.685] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has handcuffed Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 91.7) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2)
[2022-05-01 02:53:06.224] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "hey gang" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:53:07.333] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "Brick here" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:53:14.893] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "I was making a disposals trap for tiders at science maints" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:53:17.328] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "and kolton walked in" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:53:20.560] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "and started beating me with a baton" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:53:23.188] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "this is not okay" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:53:28.115] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "and I have detained him for being shit at his job" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:53:57.281] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "you aren't" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:53:58.582] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "talking to me" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:53:59.197] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "kolton" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:54:02.483] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "you aren't using your words" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:54:08.747] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "that inaction is what got you" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:54:10.959] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "into this situation" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:54:13.676] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "there is nobody coming to rescue you" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:57:47.012] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "Kolton" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:57:49.137] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "you can come out any time" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:57:53.796] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "all you have to do is use your words" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
[2022-05-01 03:02:43.917] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "you're" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
[2022-05-01 03:02:45.713] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "extremely quiet" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
[2022-05-01 03:02:46.783] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "kolton" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
literally zero response from the guy
dude i hope you read this: you SUCK. go play single player games instead
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Post by toemas » #639340

iamgoofball wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 8:39 pm it's this fucking modern /tg/ hyper-competitive gamer horseshit, if you stick someone in the brig for literally 30 seconds they ghost on you nowadays and then your own sec team arrests you and throws you out of security for brigging a greytider instead of handing them armor + gun
its pretty incredible how you manage to turn any discussion into a whingefest about assistants or powergaming
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Post by wesoda25 » #639341

Based brick those logs are funny
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Post by massa » #639342

when a player is so atrocious they revive a missingmin just to shit on them
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Post by iamgoofball » #639346

wubli wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 8:56 pm look at this shit. i even deleted some brick monologuing but this is the extent of their communication. zybwivcz has like less than ten say logs all round
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[2022-05-01 02:52:20.612] SAY: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) "Brick bad" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (112,72,2))
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the fact this guy declared brick an antag to everyone else because brick shoved him twice in self defense after being randomly stun batonned out of nowhere is fucking wild

fuck this guy imho
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Post by wubli » #639347

i am literally recovering from surgery after being hospitalized i wouldve looked up the logs from my deathbed that's how much this dude pisses me off
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Post by Shadowflame909 » #639350

Feel better soon Wubli!
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Post by blackdav123 » #639374

Scriptis wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:18 am Also, just for context, the door in question I was hacking when Zyb charged me with a baton:

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Hopefully this adds some much needed context as to why I took the actions I did.
Lock this maniac up and throw away the key
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Post by YBS » #639375

Standing a reactable distance from someone being a little sussy baka and saying "Hey, what's up champ?" is how 90% of my best secoff stories start.

Sorry Zybwivcz this aint it chief.
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Post by ArcaneDefence » #639378

I've always really struggled to engage with someone that refuses to fucking speak with me in character.
Ngl, I'd probably have done something similar. This is just sad.
It's a fucking social game. Interact, goddamn.
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Post by Annihilite111 » #639380

I'm surprised the dude is as eloquent as shown. I expected some kind of caveman considering his IC presence.
Seems like the kind of dude who needs a secban.
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Post by wubli » #639382

Shadowflame909 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 10:48 pm Feel better soon Wubli!
thanks! im alright
anyways
If the new server rule is that retaliating against SEC for valid arrests is to be handled as an IC issue, then change it to say that.
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Post by Pandarsenic » #639383

Repeating here since that was a different round from when I interacted with Brick as detective:

Our fine lad Brick was perfectly content to dismantle the trap or make it a form that got people then immediately ejected when asked with words.

More aggressive since I don't have to stay purely on topic in a beanut:

OP deserves not only everything he got, he deserves far worse and Brick deserves a medal for sitting him down and reminding him the day verb exists for other reasons than calling out MUH VALIDS locations, even if the lesson clearly didn't land due to OP's sheer determination not to learn a single thing in the course of his life.
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Post by mstachife » #639387

for any who missed it this is the science door that was being hacked into that seemingly warranted an immediate arrest.

https://imgur.com/a/Nfk1uSe

honestly incredible
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mstachife wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:36 am for any who missed it this is the science door that was being hacked into that seemingly warranted an immediate arrest.

https://imgur.com/a/Nfk1uSe

honestly incredible
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Farquaar wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 7:06 am
mstachife wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 6:36 am for any who missed it this is the science door that was being hacked into that seemingly warranted an immediate arrest.

https://imgur.com/a/Nfk1uSe

honestly incredible
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Farquaar wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 7:06 am for any who missed it this is the science door that was being hacked into that seemingly warranted an immediate arrest.
https://imgur.com/a/Nfk1uSe
See the bottom of this post as to why. It would not matter if the door was being tampered with or not. I've got proof in my pudding that he sure as shit hates Brick down to metagrudging levels and he without fail will attempt to bait someone into being arrested within minutes of spawning. Is it not verbotten to constantly bait, then I'm going to assume he ahelps on rapidfire given what he does every round, without fail. Lastly, if a banbait is a thing is it not a similar cock move to try to punish an admeme in bad faith? I mean this stuff I'm tossing out there is only within his last ten rounds. It's so much just more of the same without fail that I didn't bother going on. I mean if I get bored I will probably try to find all the conflicts between him and Brick in the last month but I think I already know what that will reveal.
To summarize: As A.S. admits, I had a valid reason to arrest Brick. You can't retaliate against SEC for doing their job and arresting you.
Okay, there's a lot to unpack here. See the second half of my post for the spicyness that Brick and this admin need to season this clown.

The first thing we should touch on is the claim of a valid reason. I mean did you? You had a somewhat valid reason to question them of course but you kind of took any sort of positives out of that by immediately following it up with your reasoning being that the area he was hacking into was a good place for cult and other antagonists. When you start off the whole handjob with an admittance that your arrest was because you were being meta that makes you an unfun asshole and you should be spoken to and noted that you understand it after being spoken to. Nothing ruins a good bit of clown and dagger antagonizing like an idiot who thinks LRP means there's no expectation of a suspension of disbelief. That's not fun for anyone and rolling security for the specific purposes of valid hunting is garbage. Bad.

You, yes I can.
You can't retaliate, yes I can.
You can't retaliate against SEC, yes I can.
You can't retaliate against SEC for doing their job, oh I sure will.

Damn and blast your eyes for this ignorant statement. If you don't resist arrest you're not the kind of scumbag that would have been all Nanotrasen could afford to hire. Every interaction with security should be one of good clean fun if you're not an antagonist and paving the hallways with their skulls if you're an antagonist. That good clean fun should include resisting arrest, running around the hallways until you attract a crowd while they chase you which will eventually end up with them being slipped and tabled. If they call for pack up it's a free for all of slipping, shoving, throwing the clown, all of the above. That's fun, that involves people. That brings people together. Do you know how much whacky shit happens in those moments? No, you don't because if you did you would know resisting arrest is fun for everyone involved including yourself as a security officer because now you have even more reason to hunt Brick, get posters printed, start asking questions. Do a half-assed job of making this game fun. If someone gets resisted for a petty crime and gets brigged that's an opportunity for even more fun. Hire a lawyer, hire a clown, break the cell lightbulb with your shoes, shank the sec officer when your time is up. Anything you want. Got arrested for a petty crime of hacking a door? Well it's time to go undercover as Professor Potted Plant and straight up REMOVE securities doors. Then drag the wired door assembly around the halls screaming "AI DOOR"

An arrest for hacking a door should never be your first go to as a security officer. This is a time for a bribe. When they offer you cash you refuse, demand their shoes. If Brick gives you his shoes shove him into a wall and call him a nerd. Bring the shoes back to security and store them in a locker. Spend the rest of the shift doing something with this theme. Arrest people for fashion crimes and steal their shoes in the hallway until they beat you to death. See how many pairs you can amass in security. Or try using all your credits to buy up every pair of cowboy boots of all kind on the station. Use your security clearance to finesse your way into the AI upload and make a law stating anyone without cowboy boots is a dork. Now you control the market of cool.

Look, Brick told you what he was doing and you said "BRICK BAD" I have no sympathy if you yell such things as it means you were a cock and they flipped it around on you. You got bunkledunked by the airlock circuit repairman. Take it like a man. Once you alert the crew of "Name bad" and that's all then you've basically called for a lynching. If I call for a lynching and it's uncalled for I expect the person to beat my skull in and feed me my own ass. You have 4,000 rounds and in so many of them you say very little and are the quickest to call for someone to die. Like, you're rolling sec to valid hunt and treating the experience as TDM looking for excuses to kill at a moments notice. It would make sense that Brick stuffing you up your own ass would chap you a little.

HOWEVER.



The day before this round there was round 182308.
12:50:29 SAY Zybwivcz/(Fitz Digson) "killing brick is it's own reward" (143, 57, 2) Departure Lounge
I mean if you wait long enough his engineering catastrophes usually do that for you. This is sad to single one spaceman out like that. Especially this one, again.

However

R182410 - An angry HOS angry about a green shift, what could they do to spice up this situation because if there's nobody to lose they cannot win. The random roundstart violence and escalation baiting wasn't enough you were the Head of Security after all. An hour long adventure to loose the xeno giving up all pretense of it happening accidently in a hilarious fashion. I mean multiple, multiple, multiple times. Until he's so hellbent for leather the quest consumes him. When it's a thing that went wacky it's funny. When it's the failed life mission of the HoS it's just sad. Featuring a stupid amount of attempts to bait people into escalations.
12:41:19 SAY Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) "greenshift more like security goes crazy and murders assistants" (138, 125, 2) Kitchen :idea:
12:31:31 GAME Zybwivcz/(Emerson Hirleman) Client Zybwivcz/(Emerson Hirleman) has taken ownership of mob Emerson Hirleman(/mob/living/carbon/human) (48, 137, 2) Arrival Shuttle
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R182366 - Here's a good one from just a bit prior. The story begins with a security man beginning his shift at 6:01AM in the engineering security post. At 6:02 he's begun hurling shit at another crewmember multiple times, at 6:03 he's chasing people firing his disabler wildly, at 6:04 he's stunned a Mime, stripped his backpack and thrown all the mimes funny memes away. At 6:05 he's knocked down a crewmember and begun running in the hallway firing his disabler again.. it nearly every minute of this round is a violent action against nearly every member of the crew, some were actually antagonists to his credit. A feel good comedy for the whole family where a man discovers that if he is the shitty violent equivalent of a lawn sprinkler he may catch those bads.
R182360 - Security time once again. How will it go this time? Well within one minute of landing on the arrivals shuttle he's instigated a fight with a man named Rayner, then gives chase, disables and stuns Rayner, cuffs Rayner, removes Rayners radio, tells the person to "Figure it out" when they ask what they've done. Rayner gets out of prison due to bullshit ten minutes later. At five minutes into the round our fearless instigator gets a little whip from a guy with the curators whip, the guy immediately drops the officers disabler. Officer Fuckteeth strips him, beats him, gulags him. The Officer then becomes cult and fails.
R182357 - An Atmosphere Technician joins at time 2:20, they beat a Chumpston powered frog to death immediately. Arming themselves with the throwing weapon that is an SSD character they toss the SSD person, missing the target, at ten minutes in they're welderdancing someone to death, fighting another person and continue on this wordless bullshit until finally on the escape shuttle.
R182311 Security, within two minutes of joining he's instigating a fight by pushing someone down, the next two minutes he's grabbing and throwing around another person, at minute five he's climbed into the kitchen, stunned and beat someone, stripped them and let them go, because he wanted coffee.
R182308 Security, within two minutes of joining he's being a dick, at four minutes he's stunning a moth that's aflame, at FIVE MINUTES into his shift he's requesting permission to execute the CE for being incompetent. There being no CE this round I assume he meant Brick Mortar, who often plays CE. Surprise Brick is in this shift as engineering, doing engineering things.
R182306 Security, within two minutes of spawning he's running around firing a practice laser and waiting for someone to take the bait. At three minutes he's instigating with nearly four people, he stun attacks, cuffs and searches at 3 minutes. Not even ten minutes into the round and he's baiting anyone within range as usual.

These aren't even really cherry picked, they're all back to back for the most part. He says very little beyond "KILL (INSERT WHOEVER HERE)" and "(WHOEVER) IS BAD" like his sole basis for entertainment with this game is to use random names, roll security and immediately begin to cause shit. Yes, I know some people do that but not as security nonstop. When he's not playing security he's even worse. Escalates and doesn't even drag people to medbay. Absolutely an asshole. The behavior doesn't change as HoS. Very little in the way of fun and nearly all in the name of "I'm going to kick your ass and get away with it" I sincerely believe he's using security just as part of his play to win shit because he thinks he's got the upperhand in all escalations, people are gonna hesitate a little when it's security and yeah. Hallway strips, removing radios, egregious sentencing, straight up being the worst possible adds-nothing-to-the-game spaceman ever. When you are constantly baiting people into being arrested and jailed before you're even two minutes into the round you've made it perfectly clear why you don't like Brick.

Cause Brick shits on you and dunkfucks you like the little bully bitch you are. I notice you retaliate at the slightest transgression but not when Brick is involved. Brick can slap you with a crowbar and you do nothing but run and bully someone else. Was that what this was? You thought you finally got the dunk on Bricklebop and he still clowned you anyways? Fuck your admin complaint, I'm surprised you're not banned from security roles or the server entirely for just being a massive shithead. I wish I could parse the logs across a few hundred rounds to see what your average time is between spawning and instigating a fight. I'm betting the average is under four minutes, I wouldn't be surprised if it was under two. There's plenty of funny instigators out there but they do Benny Hill nonsense, slip people, tie shoes, steal shoes, or otherwise to keep things fun. Hell, plenty like myself end up doing an on-the-run suicide when it's funny. You? Oh you're fucking awful man. I can only imagine the ahelps you send while baiting like this, then when you get your babyass schooled you turn it into an admin complaint.

You're not contributing anything funny to shifts, you're not bringing anything to the table that enhances anyone elses gameplay, you're purposefully being a shitbird without a plausible reason why other than "I'm security, I can do what I want" while valid hunting so fucking hard it's cringe. One of these days I'm going to get up the energy to put in the effort to run my ass for an admin position so I can say it's time for a note about this behavior and if it doesn't stop you're going to lose security roles for a week. We'll figure your shit out from there Officer Fuckloaf.
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wubli wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 10:26 pm i am literally recovering from surgery after being hospitalized i wouldve looked up the logs from my deathbed that's how much this dude pisses me off
hope ya get better! Get well soon aye?
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Scriptis wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:18 am Also, just for context, the door in question I was hacking when Zyb charged me with a baton:

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Honestly we should be thankful for the Secoff stopping you from setting up a teleporter to dust everyone on the station.
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Reading the logs versus the contents of both Scriptis' and Zyb's tickets, I feel like I'm being gaslit.
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Timberpoes wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 10:26 pm Reading the logs versus the contents of both Scriptis' and Zyb's tickets, I feel like I'm being gaslit.
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Shadowflame909 wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 7:15 pm I was reconned out of the story but as I was in science maint looking for cytology spawns, this sec off comes in looking for valids. He's shove spamming on combat mode and is following me into rooms. We end up going south of robo maint and find an engineer. He shoves past the engi, engi shoves him. I shove them and we're in there shoving for like a minute until he gets fed up and whips out a stun baton. He downs the engi, I pick up a maint beer bottle spawn and toss it at him, he chases me, stuns me, engi gets back up and wall shoves him, stealing his baton and stunning him with it. He starts screaming for help over comms and I e laugh as he gets dragged into a maint room by the engi who has now made coil cuffs.

I bounced after that but it really wasn't anything to ahelp about
This pretty much sums it up. He was trying to bait Shadowflame with constant shoving and then, after not having anything to arrest him for after a solid minute, started arresting me at first sight.
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Translated Jort's post to make it readable. "You" in this case is referring to Zyb, the person making the admin complaint..
jortsandshirts wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 7:54 am You're not contributing anything funny to shifts, you're not bringing anything to the table that enhances anyone elses gameplay, you're purposefully being a shitbird without a plausible reason why other than "I'm security, I can do what I want" while valid hunting so fucking hard it's cringe. One of these days I'm going to get up the energy to put in the effort to run my ass for an admin position so I can say it's time for a note about this behavior and if it doesn't stop you're going to lose security roles for a week. We'll figure your shit out from there Officer Fuckloaf.
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Timberpoes wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:41 am From my perspective, players just want to genuinely be listened to. And I don't mean it condescendingly, but to genuinely have their say and for admins to listen, process it and reply. Even if you don't give two shits about what the player is saying, even if you disagree with every part of what they say, players are less likely to leave an ahelp pissed off if you've listened to them and given a reply that directly addresses what they've told you.
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Scriptis wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 10:38 pm This pretty much sums it up. He was trying to bait Shadowflame with constant shoving and then, after not having anything to arrest him for after a solid minute, started arresting me at first sight.
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[2022-05-01 02:51:31.607] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 96.3)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:38.044] EMOTE: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) breathes in. (Lesser Aft Maintenance (119,76,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:43.900] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (119,77,2))

It sure doesn't look like he's arresting you at first sight, or that you're protesting being arrested. He shoves you and then spends the next 12 seconds not talking, not cuffing, not stunning, not shooting. Just nothing happens. It's the slowest, silent, most wordless arrest/being arrested with no use of any items or weapons at all. Doesn't even grab you. Then after that 12 seconds of silent inaction, he picks up his shoving match with Shadowflame again.

You're not even stun batonned until ~19 seconds after he first shoved you while he's in the middle of a new shoving contest with Shadowflame. And THAT doesn't look like he's arresting you either.
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[2022-05-01 02:51:47.466] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:48.437] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,75,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:50.062] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has stun attacked Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 96.3)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:52.678] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with the space beer (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:53.751] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (121,74,2))
It's why I feel like I'm being gaslight. He even says "depart" while spamming disabler shots into the now-stunned Shadowflame before you decide to jump him with the stun baton.
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[2022-05-01 02:52:07.468] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [blue air supply pipe] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:07.470] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shot Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:07.967] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (115,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:08.022] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shot Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (115,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:10.225] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has grabbed Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:11.132] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (115,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:12.753] SAY: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) "depart" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,76,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:13.854] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [Genetics Maintenance] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,73,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:13.857] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shot Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,73,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:14.012] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has stun attacked Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,75,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:14.739] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [blue air supply pipe] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:14.740] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shot Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:15.319] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:15.321] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shot Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:16.863] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has stun attacked Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,73,2))
Neither of your stories properly match up with the logs.

His account is missing all sorts of details about his fight with Shadowflame and he mentions he was arresting you but just shoved you then did nothing for 12 seconds. Yours is even worse because you make it seem like your robusted him while he was arresting you but the logs make it look like he was arresting Shadowflame909 and you inserted yourself into that arrest. This still feels like a double gaslighting. Like there's some alternate reality where what the both of you think happened actually happened and you slipped out of it into this reality where none of it happened and you were both being shitters.

I don't even know if there is a truth to be found or if both sides are just bullshitting us all because they're each scared they'll get in trouble.

The only person whose story seems to match up with the logs is Shadowflame's. They get a gold star. Good on them.
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Re: Secoff gets dunked, immediately calls for admin peanut

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Timberpoes wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 11:11 pm ...

Neither of your stories properly match up with the logs.

His account is missing all sorts of details about his fight with Shadowflame and he mentions he was arresting you but just shoved you then did nothing for 12 seconds. Yours is even worse because you make it seem like your robusted him while he was arresting you but the logs make it look like he was arresting Shadowflame909 and you inserted yourself into that arrest. This still feels like a double gaslighting. Like there's some alternate reality where what the both of you think happened actually happened and you slipped out of it into this reality where none of it happened and you were both being shitters.

I don't even know if there is a truth to be found or if both sides are just bullshitting us all because they're each scared they'll get in trouble.


My memory isn't perfect, so here's a close reading of the logs from my perspective.
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Zyb and Shadowflame are having a fight somewhere in maintenance. I don't know this is happening.

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[2022-05-01 02:51:13.280] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 100)  (Aft Starboard Maintenance (146,87,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:13.650] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) (NEWHP: 100)  (Aft Starboard Maintenance (146,86,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:14.119] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 100)  (Aft Starboard Maintenance (146,88,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:14.610] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Aft Starboard Maintenance (146,87,2))
Meanwhile, not far away, I'm prepping to set up a disposals trap and smash out some lights and pop open the door. Zyb and Shadowflame are still fighting and have reached the door on the western side of the corridor, fighting directly south of genetics.

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[2022-05-01 02:51:24.611] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has attacked [light fixture] with Rapid Pipe Dispenser (RPD) (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:29.949] scriptis (as Brick Mortar at 120,76,2)
 - Using: /datum/wires/airlock/maint [0x21012504]
 - new Wires fancy 1
Zyb disengages with his conflict with Shadowflame on his left and shoves me on his right instead. This is my first interaction this shift with him: he is deliberately interrupting me. This is not a misclick.

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[2022-05-01 02:51:31.607] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 96.3)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
Frustrated, I breathe in.

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[2022-05-01 02:51:38.044] EMOTE: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) breathes in. (Lesser Aft Maintenance (119,76,2))
At this point, Zyb and Shadowflame resume their shoving match in and around the same cramped space as me.

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[2022-05-01 02:51:43.900] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (119,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:44.020] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (121,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:44.854] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (121,76,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:46.474] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has shoved Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) (NEWHP: 96.3)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,76,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:47.029] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:47.466] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:48.437] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,75,2))
I have not touched either of these two at this point, and a baton hasn't been flashed yet. With how long this has been going it's obvious that Zyb is not arresting this scientist. I am about to ignore them and resume my work. But Zyb forms a thought:
Zybwivcz wrote: Sun May 01, 2022 4:22 amSince he's in the middle of trying to hack his way in to a room he doesn't have access to, and because it makes a good spot for cult bases, heretic runes and the like, I start to arrest him by stunning him with my baton.

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[2022-05-01 02:51:50.062] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has stun attacked Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 96.3)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,74,2))
Zyb goes for a second stun on me, but Shadowflame throws a bottle at him, causing him to turn around (Zyb probably thinks he can stunlock and arrest both of us).

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[2022-05-01 02:51:52.678] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has attacked Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with the space beer (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,74,2))
[2022-05-01 02:51:53.751] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (121,74,2))
I convulse on the floor for a bit and get back up. Zyb made a conscious effort to baton me; there was no way in hell that he could have misclicked while trying to hit Shadowflame, who was now back in genetics maint. He's now trying to beat down Shadowflame:

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[2022-05-01 02:51:56.821] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has stun attacked Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,76,2))
So now he's trying to detain both of us.

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[2022-05-01 02:51:59.704] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "kolton" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (120,75,2))
I try to say something, but they loop around the bend in maintenance. I give chase to defend Shadowflame, given that they just saved me from--judging by what's been discussed in this thread--ten minutes in the brig.

He's trying to arrest a scientist for interfering in *my* arrest. I'm also not okay with that.

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[2022-05-01 02:52:00.545] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has stun attacked Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (117,77,2))
So I turn the corner and put him down, taking his baton.

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[2022-05-01 02:52:01.523] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shoved Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with into Kolton Fischer (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:02.482] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (115,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:03.654] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has grabbed Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) passive grab (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:05.436] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has shoved Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (119,76,2))
He attempts to shoot the disabler at me, but I duck back around the corner, leading him to empty his clip into the hallway and Shadowflame, who is still convulsing on the floor.

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[2022-05-01 02:52:06.536] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [floor] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (117,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:06.724] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shot Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 96.3)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (117,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:07.468] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [blue air supply pipe] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:07.470] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shot Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:07.967] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (115,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:08.022] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shot Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (115,77,2))
At this point, he grabs the stamcrit Shadowflame.

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[2022-05-01 02:52:10.225] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has grabbed Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) passive grab (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (116,77,2))
and takes some more potshots towards where I was, because I was the one he was trying to arrest in this entire thing. The scientist was just collateral at this point. Free brig sentence, meet your arrest quota.

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[2022-05-01 02:52:12.753] SAY: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) "depart" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,76,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:11.132] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [plating] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (115,77,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:13.854] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has fired at [Genetics Maintenance] with the disabler beam from Lesser Aft Maintenance (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,73,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:13.857] ATTACK: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) has shot Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) with the disabler beam (NEWHP: 100)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,73,2))
The disabler shots have stopped, so I round the corner and put the animal down.

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[2022-05-01 02:52:21.384] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has stun attacked Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:18.758] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "kolton" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:19.522] SAY: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) "fuck off" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
Just LEAVE US ALONE, Kolton. Just LEAVE.

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[2022-05-01 02:52:20.612] SAY: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) "Brick bad" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (112,72,2))
Gee, thanks. Now it's obvious to me that you're ABSOLUTELY going to KILL ME TO DEATH if I don't cuff YOU first.

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[2022-05-01 02:52:21.384] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has stun attacked Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) with the stun baton (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:24.362] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has attempted to handcuff Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:24.399] SAY: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) "Departures" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (112,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:25.324] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has grabbed Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) passive grab (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:25.917] SAY: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) "robusted" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,73,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:27.583] SAY: Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) "Maint" (Lesser Aft Maintenance (112,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:27.685] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has handcuffed Zybwivcz/(Kolton Fischer) (NEWHP: 91.7)  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
[2022-05-01 02:52:28.364] ATTACK: Scriptis/(Brick Mortar) has thrown the cable coil  (Lesser Aft Maintenance (113,72,2))
Shadowflame, now finally free from being harassed by this secoff, goes back to science.

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[2022-05-01 02:52:35.310] ATTACK: Shadowflame909/(Owen Kimple) has slipped on the [motor oil] (LUBE) (Ordnance Mixing Lab (116,79,2))
Now I have a problem: a security officer in cuffs who absolutely wanted to arrest me and now absolutely wants to valid the fuck out of me. Also, he's a mute. This leads into the OP.
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Re: Secoff gets dunked, immediately calls for admin peanut

Post by Shadowflame909 » #639556

There are two halves to one whole

And the whole picture is that this really didnt need to be an ahelp
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Post by oranges » #639571

jorty will never make it as an admin as his posts are simply too long for anyone with hiring authority to read
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Post by jortsandshirts » #639577

I liked it when oranges wasn't posting those were great days.

The post is long for a reason you weasel. You weaselly weasel listening to weezer with your bacardi breezer straight from the freezer.
The guys valid-baiting-ban-baiting-wankstaining as security every shift, every day. Not even funny about it either. If you look at his contribution to the shifts it's like if those 4K rounds he's got under his belt never happened then nobody would notice other than not being wrangled by a dickslope who thinks the crew are just his personal pokemon to capture. If he was funny about it that'd be alright because we've got a sec or two that are big bad bully boys that are not out to just powertrip. Then they at least communicate. This guy? Wordlessly stuncuffstrip if you shove him back. Lordamercy if you're an antagonist when this happens I guess but it seems he rarely actually snags himself antagonists.

Pushin, shovin', tabling, lovin' is not something security gets to do because it's cultural appropriation. If he wants to be an anus like that then he's got to don the greysuit like us commonfolk. Once in awhile? That's fine everybody needs some spice but this guy hears E1M1 when he arrives on the shuttle. He don't communicate, he just a shit. I mean based on this stuff I would sprechen sie douche to him about it in game that it's time to stop and if not no more security roles.

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Post by massa » #639586

Timberpoes wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 11:11 pm It's why I feel like I'm being gaslight. He even says "depart" while spamming disabler shots into the now-stunned Shadowflame before you decide to jump him with the stun baton.
He said "DEPARTURES" shortly after. He wasn't telling anyone to leave, he was calling for his location, along with the few pathetic "maint" calls he made, which is quite flush for his only communication and interaction being to preserve his own life and remove it from others.
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Post by Not-Dorsidarf » #639640

I think calling him "GBJ'ed for 15 minutes" is completely unreasonable, based on whats been said in the thread he wasnt walled into a room and left there he was being actively held down while the admin he summoned was talking to the guy who detained him. That's not gay baby jail in the slightest. If he'd actually been dumped with no headset in an infinite disposals loop like this Brick guy later said he now wanted to, that would be a GBJ.

Honestly if anything this situation (barring the admin) was a textbook example of successfully escalating with hostile play2win tdm sec while remaining chill with the rest of the sec team
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Post by jortsandshirts » #639644

You guys are forgetting what actually factually matters here.

He's a dynamic name robocop with 4k rounds who tries to instigate fights with the first people he sees and arrests them if they fight back, every round, all rounds.
Brick should be given a commendation. Dicksoap McOfficer there should be forced to a static name so he stops evading peoples recognition of his assbag behavior. If he doesn't stop the horseshit no more sec roles, if it still doesn't stop, he time out. He knew what the fuck he wanted to do when he went after Brick, he knew who Brick was and obviously has a problem with Brick given he singles Brick out in other rounds by name wishing them harm.
Brick had no way of knowing this officer was just looking for an excuse to try and dunk on Brick because of the dynamic name. If I spent a few hours tonight I guarantee I could find you so much bullshit of him targeting Brick that it would make your head spin.
Complaint should be denied based on all of this as it's in bad faith. The Badmin didn't punish Brick who was RIGHTFULLY and in the SPIRIT OF THIS ENTIRE GAME dicking up a shitsec hitlerbot.
Then, furthermore, alas and heh, this TDM Shitsec McGriddle should be given the sternest of warnings.

This shit is cut and dry like vermicelli noodles. What's even gotten into this community.
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Post by Jonathan Gupta » #639645

dude stop making paragraphs its like I wanna read short funny posts not 2 paragraph long essays.
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Post by massa » #639646

Jonathan Gupta wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:58 pm dude stop making paragraphs its like I wanna read short funny posts not 2 paragraph long essays.
We should never ask people to stop communicating comfortably on a public discussion forum.
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massa wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 3:11 pm
Jonathan Gupta wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:58 pm dude stop making paragraphs its like I wanna read short funny posts not 2 paragraph long essays.
We should never ask people to stop communicating comfortably on a public discussion forum.
Atleast make a TL;DR
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Jonathan Gupta wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 3:21 pm
massa wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 3:11 pm
Jonathan Gupta wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:58 pm dude stop making paragraphs its like I wanna read short funny posts not 2 paragraph long essays.
We should never ask people to stop communicating comfortably on a public discussion forum.
Atleast make a TL;DR
AT LEAST HAVE THE DECENCY TO READ OR NOT TELL PEOPLE TO NOT TALK

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Post by ArcaneDefence » #639650

Just read the first and last two sentences or so of the paragraph and tell them to talk less if you miss something in the middle
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Post by Alphanerdd » #639652

Jonathan Gupta wrote: Tue May 03, 2022 2:58 pm dude stop making paragraphs its like I wanna read short funny posts not 2 paragraph long essays.
Don't listen to him keep text dumping king
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