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Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 6:36 pm**

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Genuinely blows my mind that people are willing to moderate polcon, was there really a six hour argument??

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 6:41 pm**

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 6:42 pm**

^words spoken in a discord for a niche video game community

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 7:16 pm**

this guy isn't verified and every time he makes a huge post i think it's a spam bot and nearly deny it. especially that citation one

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 7:21 pm**

wesoda25 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 6:36 pm viewtopic.php?p=639439#p639439

Genuinely blows my mind that people are willing to moderate polcon, was there really a six hour argument??

I think it may have actually been longer than 6h total.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 7:43 pm**

Mothblocks wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:16 pm this guy isn't verified and every time he makes a huge post i think it's a spam bot and nearly deny it. especially that citation one

Hypothetical: This dude requests headmin review wdyd

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 7:59 pm**

I feel for anyone willing to get roped into being a discord moderator, let alone in a polarized space, wild.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 8:02 pm**

So was he banned just for disagreeing with an admin? The appeal is denied even though the admins haven't even said a reason why he was banned. Unless he really is permabanned for "asserted someone lied and was acting in bad faith over their family members having died in the massacre" but that doesn't really seem like a reason for a permaban.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 8:17 pm**

The only winning move is to say "this is a video game server, discuss politics and political topics in private or on their own servers because it's totally irrelevant to /traditional games/ station 13".

By attempting to embrace """politics""" we also seem to have embraced discussion on whether X thing was or was a massace or a genocide, "tactical" rapes, literally any argument with Sticky where he implies the other party is getting sexually thrilled talking about genocide and giving a platform for people to expouse their various propaganda sources on all sides of whatever passes for a debate in the politics channels.

Much like the hut, polcon should be confined to the history books.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 8:20 pm**

BlueMemesauce wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 8:02 pm So was he banned just for disagreeing with an admin? The appeal is denied even though the admins haven't even said a reason why he was banned. Unless he really is permabanned for "asserted someone lied and was acting in bad faith over their family members having died in the massacre" but that doesn't really seem like a reason for a permaban.

In all fairness, if holocaust denial is banned i'd expect moderation to also ban denial of other internationally recognised genocides. It seems a little silly to go to such lengths to prevent people from airing their wacky beliefs like that but if that's what we're doing we ought to be consistent.

I miss talking to crackpots online man. Now everyone's in their echo chamber and i can't find the fun crazies anymore. Whenever i try to talk to them i get called a shill instead of engaged with.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 8:35 pm**

wesoda25 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:43 pm
Mothblocks wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:16 pm this guy isn't verified and every time he makes a huge post i think it's a spam bot and nearly deny it. especially that citation one
Hypothetical: This dude requests headmin review wdyd

I haven't read the post at all yet but if we're at the point where we need to be posting huge PDFs for politics containment then it might be time to take a bit of a break

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 8:43 pm**

Serbia, figures, the entire balkan region is a culture based on blabla all fucking day, and these guys are obsessed with rewriting their history whereever they can because they didn't win their proxy war when Croatia and Slovakia declared independence from Yugoslavia, which Serbia held the most power in.
There is literally nothing worse than talking to a shill of them, they live solely to talk your ear off about some fucking semantic, or berate you endlessly for not buying into their garbage. As I said, the balkan region practices internet in real life, by bankrupting themselves on cafe after cafe, in which people practice being obnoxious assholes all fucking day, don't let their training pay off, just stop talking to them whenever they bring up the Yugoslavian war.

With mentally sound regards
-BONERMASTER

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 8:46 pm**

Have you heard of that nice Croatian restaurant on Ulica Street?

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 9:08 pm**

Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 8:17 pm The only winning move is to say "this is a video game server, discuss politics and political topics in private or on their own servers because it's totally irrelevant to /traditional games/ station 13".

By attempting to embrace """politics""" we also seem to have embraced discussion on whether X thing was or was a massace or a genocide, "tactical" rapes, literally any argument with Sticky where he implies the other party is getting sexually thrilled talking about genocide and giving a platform for people to expouse their various propaganda sources on all sides of whatever passes for a debate in the politics channels.

Much like the hut, polcon should be confined to the history books.

Counterpoint: " I am just arguing that legally speaking, they do not constitute a genocide." is top tier content and shaming people with genocidal political views is a geniunely positive thing in maintaining the unacceptability of those political views.

If every time a wacko starts denying genocides he gets mocked for 6 hours then permabanned, that is the most correct, most effective outcome for a good server. The idea that you can keep politics out of anything is the luxury of people rarely affected by politics.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 9:26 pm**

Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 8:17 pm By attempting to embrace """politics""" we also seem to have embraced discussion on whether X thing was or was a massace or a genocide, "tactical" rapes, literally any argument with Sticky where he implies the other party is getting sexually thrilled talking about genocide and giving a platform for people to expouse their various propaganda sources on all sides of whatever passes for a debate in the politics channels.

I disagree here, I think polcon has done it's job quite well, the shitty overly political people tend to only post in polcon. It's the politics containment channels after all, not the politics embracement channels. Most players who want to interact with the community don't want politics shoved in their face every day, after all. So strongly enforcing politics to be contained in a politics only area is a good way of keeping the good part of the community sane.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 9:34 pm**

Something I thought of when making this thread was the state of discord in that there are so few people willing to moderate it, we essentially have to wave some of the most fundamental admin rules and expectations so that it functions. I'd be curious to see how much workload is generated from polcon as opposed to other channels, and the investment involved in dealing with those (in this case, the ludicrous "source-checking" seems far more time and work intensive than anything I can imagine you'd see in other channels).

Personally I do think we'd be better off without it, although it does appear to have a well established culture and familiar members, so it'd be a shame to step on that - if nothing else.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 9:45 pm**

Tearling wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:26 pm Most players who want to interact with the community don't want politics shoved in their face every day, after all. So strongly enforcing politics to be contained in a politics only area is a good way of keeping the good part of the community sane.

This doesn't really make sense to me, with polcon if people are talking about politics elsewhere you tell them to go to polcon. If we didn't have polcon, you'd tell them to stop. Amount of times you'd have to do this would increase, but I imagine each case would look about the same.

Personally I have polcon muted and hidden - a solution I'm happy with - but as I said in the post above it looks like it might have some consequences which are more sweeping than a channel you can hide. Maybe I'm just trying to link two things which bother me together, though.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 9:47 pm**

wesoda25 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:34 pm Personally I do think we'd be better off without it, although it does appear to have a well established culture and familiar members, so it'd be a shame to step on that - if nothing else.

the "well established culture" is half just people posting soft core porn and defending rape fetishes or bestiality and poorly veiled bigotry, there would be nothing of worth lost if we removed the channel and the majority of polcon posters at all

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 10:11 pm**

wesoda25 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:45 pm This doesn't really make sense to me, with polcon if people are talking about politics elsewhere you tell them to go to polcon. If we didn't have polcon, you'd tell them to stop.

Either way they post politics in the wrong place in that example, which should tell you that if nothing else polcon is at least neutral. The problem comes after the post is removed.

In situation 1, they post outside of polcon and you tell them to post it in polcon, they do so. Then several days later, if lets say... they see a funny Trump gimmick on terry, they decide to post about it on the discord. They think "I bet the boys in polcon will get a laugh at this" and post it in polcon.

In situation 2, they post politics and get told not to do that. Then several days later they see a funny Trump gimmick on terry, they decide to post it on the meme channel because "I'm sure a political meme is fine, because it's funny." then get told not to do that again, or banned. Of course, they might decide that it's not worth risking it and decide not to post it in the first place, but using the manuel discord as an example, there's still political meme posts that'll slip through so long as they're not blatantly "Fuck this political idea I don't agree with!"

In either way polcon is, at worst, no different from not having a political channel. At best it acts as a quarantine zone for political posters.
Besides, where else would we post political related /tg/ shit? digg?

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 10:14 pm**

Not reading all that my point is that our other channels will be the same whether we have it or not, I don't know if I misunderstood you or you misunderstood me but yeah that's all I meant to say when responding to you have a good day.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 10:15 pm**

cSeal wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:47 pm
wesoda25 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:34 pm Personally I do think we'd be better off without it, although it does appear to have a well established culture and familiar members, so it'd be a shame to step on that - if nothing else.
the "well established culture" is half just people posting soft core porn and defending rape fetishes or bestiality and poorly veiled bigotry, there would be nothing of worth lost if we removed the channel and the majority of polcon posters at all

I heard they sell guns to each other with the serial numbers filed off! Some of them even talked about how they rigged an election in Guatemala!!!

Rape and bestiality come on you know that's nonsense fearmongering

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 10:18 pm**

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:15 pm
cSeal wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:47 pm
wesoda25 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:34 pm Personally I do think we'd be better off without it, although it does appear to have a well established culture and familiar members, so it'd be a shame to step on that - if nothing else.
the "well established culture" is half just people posting soft core porn and defending rape fetishes or bestiality and poorly veiled bigotry, there would be nothing of worth lost if we removed the channel and the majority of polcon posters at all
I heard they sell guns to each other with the serial numbers filed off! Some of them even talked about how they rigged an election in Guatemala!!!

Rape and bestiality come on you know that's nonsense fearmongering

I could find like ten quotes of people saying either are hot right now sticky lol you know this

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 10:44 pm**

wesoda25 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:14 pm Not reading all that my point is that our other channels will be the same whether we have it or not, I don't know if I misunderstood you or you misunderstood me but yeah that's all I meant to say when responding to you have a good day.

Okay then, I'll TLDR it for you.
If it's the same either way, then why not have a political channel, when at worst it's the same, and at best it's good for containment?

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 10:44 pm**

I cannot think for the life of me why you would even consider discussing Nazis anywhere on the internet. It's a bad idea, your take probably sucks, and you're probably going to get banned for saying something stupid.

Either way, if you're going to deny a holocaust you're stepping on rule 11 so just maybe... don't fucking talk about it here?

Christ, just nuke polcon at this point. rule 14, no politics at all. Go do it elsewhere.

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 10:45 pm**

Tearling wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:44 pm Okay then, I'll TLDR it for you.
If it's the same either way, then why not have a political channel, when at worst it's the same, and at best it's good for containment?

ok I know I shouldn't be criticizing you for not reading stuff but read my post above that one as well as the rest of that one jeez

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 10:48 pm**

wesoda25 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:45 pm ok I know I shouldn't be criticizing you for not reading stuff but

Posted: **Mon May 02, 2022 11:55 pm**

Mothblocks wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 8:46 pm Have you heard of that nice Croatian restaurant on Ulica Street?

ulica ta deez nuts

also polcon is one of the reasons i adamantly avoid discord moderating just replace it with touhou shitpost general

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 1:37 am**

i like polcon because i don't get called a pedophile as much there when i'm posting touhou content

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 2:10 am**

Vekter wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:44 pm I cannot think for the life of me why you would even consider discussing Nazis anywhere on the internet. It's a bad idea, your take probably sucks, and you're probably going to get banned for saying something stupid.

Either way, if you're going to deny a holocaust you're stepping on rule 11 so just maybe... don't fucking talk about it here?

Christ, just nuke polcon at this point. rule 14, no politics at all. Go do it elsewhere.

This dude would have chilled in the community for another three years being sussy with no one calling him out for it

I'm not saying I need a medal but like name a street after me at least

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 2:25 am**

Tearling wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 5:29 pm
Andrej99 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 4:42 pm I don't think I've said anything that could be constituted as a personal attack.
I'm snipping out a VERY long argument here, but posting this for the sake of reference.

Main FNR Rules - 10: wrote:Lying, forging supporting evidence, or making baseless claims against the administration will not end well for you.

So, is this a personal attack and is that against the rules of the Discord? Because I was in politics containment the other day and was the subject of far more significant personal attacks from Stickymayhem (some (all?) of which were in breach of Rule 11) for having a differing opinion on a TV show, which leads me to believe this isn't something that's usually enforced and not the actual reason this ban was made.

Also what this guy said about arguing with Stickymayhem here is correct, for anyone reading this that might find themselves baited down that rabbit hole in future. He argues in bad faith, has all sorts of underhanded tactics he resorts to (strawman, ad hominem, appealing to ridicule, ignoring parts of the argument he finds inconvenient, just flat out not responding if he's losing) and is only interested in winning the argument, not the possibility he might be wrong or in learning anything new. Also polcon is his home turf, so he'll rally the troops from his cult of personality there if he feels attacked.

Gwyn wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:14 pm I have done my research into the conversation leading up to the ban, and the sources you have tried using as a defense for denying the nature of the massacre as a genocide and the use of rape in it.

The primary investigation you cite for your position was initiated at the behest of a genocide-denying bosnian serb leader, and seems to be biased towards one single earlier report from the ICTY while ignoring the writings of historians and legal scholars with diametrically opposed positions on the matter. The other studies you cited seem to counter your own argument and support the claims to genocide.

On top of that, during the conversation you asserted someone lied and was acting in bad faith over their family members having died in the massacre, which is flagrantly against the rules.

This appeal is denied. You can appeal again in a year from now.

This just reads like another one of these polcon people banning this guy for having bad opinions.

Timberpoes wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 8:17 pm The only winning move is to say "this is a video game server, discuss politics and political topics in private or on their own servers because it's totally irrelevant to /traditional games/ station 13".

By attempting to embrace """politics""" we also seem to have embraced discussion on whether X thing was or was a massace or a genocide, "tactical" rapes, literally any argument with Sticky where he implies the other party is getting sexually thrilled talking about genocide and giving a platform for people to expouse their various propaganda sources on all sides of whatever passes for a debate in the politics channels.

Much like the hut, polcon should be confined to the history books.

If you banned all politics, people wouldn't even be able to discuss what was happening in the news. The problem is when you have a place specifically for politics, it somehow manages to attract the most toxic members of any community, regardless of where they fall on the political spectrum, who use it as an outlet for their own narcissism.

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 2:58 am**

why do you need to discuss the news

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 3:17 am**

tjatpbnj wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:58 am why do you need to discuss the news

I don’t, but current events come up in conversation. Like COVID, or Ukraine. We’re being DDoSed for supporting Ukraine, so it might get mentioned from time to time.

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 3:50 am**

Why you don't argue with sticky

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 3:50 am**

cacogen wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 3:17 am
tjatpbnj wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:58 am why do you need to discuss the news
I don’t, but current events come up in conversation. Like COVID, or Ukraine. We’re being DDoSed for supporting Ukraine, so it might get mentioned from time to time.

Who said that

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 3:55 am**

wesoda25 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:34 pm Something I thought of when making this thread was the state of discord in that there are so few people willing to moderate it, we essentially have to wave some of the most fundamental admin rules and expectations so that it functions. I'd be curious to see how much workload is generated from polcon as opposed to other channels, and the investment involved in dealing with those (in this case, the ludicrous "source-checking" seems far more time and work intensive than anything I can imagine you'd see in other channels).

Personally I do think we'd be better off without it, although it does appear to have a well established culture and familiar members, so it'd be a shame to step on that - if nothing else.

I basically only regularly moderate polcon and the shitpost channel, the other ones people will ping if anything questionable goes down.

That being said I have no issue with the politics channel and the only people who think it regularly churns out shit like this are the people who don't actually view it or participate in it. 99% of the time politics-on-topic is dead and people are just posting cute animal pictures in the main channel, this particular argument was noteworthy because I would continually check in on it and go "damn these people are still at it" and it all happened in the on-topic channel.

The place has been cleaned up so much over the last couple years it's not even comparable to what it used to be, but people still treat it as if it's equivalent to your average /pol/ thread

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 4:44 am**

cacogen wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:25 am So, is this a personal attack and is that against the rules of the Discord? Because I was in politics containment the other day and was the subject of far more significant personal attacks from Stickymayhem (some (all?) of which were in breach of Rule 11) for having a differing opinion on a TV show, which leads me to believe this isn't something that's usually enforced and not the actual reason this ban was made.

Also what this guy said about arguing with Stickymayhem here is correct, for anyone reading this that might find themselves baited down that rabbit hole in future. He argues in bad faith, has all sorts of underhanded tactics he resorts to (strawman, ad hominem, appealing to ridicule, ignoring parts of the argument he finds inconvenient, just flat out not responding if he's losing) and is only interested in winning the argument, not the possibility he might be wrong or in learning anything new. Also polcon is his home turf, so he'll rally the troops from his cult of personality there if he feels attacked.

You are correct, it's not usually enforced. However, I see appeals getting denied for lying quite often. If you lie in your appeal, even if it's unrelated to the original reason you got banned, that's typically an appeal denied. Here is a more clear cut case of him personally insulting them.

cacogen wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:25 am This just reads like another one of these polcon people banning this guy for having bad opinions.

The guy has rarely posted on the discord, and almost all of his discord posts in history came from this one 20 hour argument with Sticky and various other people. In this argument he vehemently defended the bosnian genocide, claiming it was a massacre but not a genocide.
Which, if I can remember correctly, was all AFTER denying Russian war crimes. Thankfully we don't have to rely on my memory, here's a picture of his russian warcrime denial you can find on the TG discord, where this argument took place!

And finally here's the exact message of him calling bullshit whether or not someone's "family really suffered" in his own words.

So yeah, he was banned for just having a bad opinion, and we're all better off for it.

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 5:11 am**

nianjiilical wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:55 pm
Mothblocks wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 8:46 pm Have you heard of that nice Croatian restaurant on Ulica Street?
ulica ta deez nuts

also polcon is one of the reasons i adamantly avoid discord moderating just replace it with touhou shitpost general

There's also a great Hungarian restaurant on Utca Street.

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 5:19 am**

It was a mediocore distraction during my 2 hour lecture in chem class, like oldish bread scrapped with butter. minus the butter. next time need jam at least or something with flavor

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 7:27 am**

He should show us the 3 pixels in the mirror that show the corpses standing up

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 10:40 am**

cacogen wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:25 am snip

Why is it that when people criticize me it just makes me sound cooler

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 12:25 pm**

Hulkamania wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 3:55 am I basically only regularly moderate polcon and the shitpost channel, the other ones people will ping if anything questionable goes down.

That being said I have no issue with the politics channel and the only people who think it regularly churns out shit like this are the people who don't actually view it or participate in it. 99% of the time politics-on-topic is dead and people are just posting cute animal pictures in the main channel, this particular argument was noteworthy because I would continually check in on it and go "damn these people are still at it" and it all happened in the on-topic channel.

The place has been cleaned up so much over the last couple years it's not even comparable to what it used to be, but people still treat it as if it's equivalent to your average /pol/ thread

Informative, ty

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 12:49 pm**

I was on polcon today and it's like 90% Cyan spamming random images from his animals folder (90TB, external drive storage) and 10% talking about nazifurs. Pretty comfy

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 12:50 pm**

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 10:40 am
cacogen wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:25 am snip
Why is it that when people criticize me it just makes me sound cooler

Cricket noises

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 2:35 pm**

mothblocks is the head coder? I'm having a mental breakdown I dunno what I'm gonna do.

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 3:47 pm**

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:10 am
Vekter wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:44 pm I cannot think for the life of me why you would even consider discussing Nazis anywhere on the internet. It's a bad idea, your take probably sucks, and you're probably going to get banned for saying something stupid.

Either way, if you're going to deny a holocaust you're stepping on rule 11 so just maybe... don't fucking talk about it here?

Christ, just nuke polcon at this point. rule 14, no politics at all. Go do it elsewhere.
This dude would have chilled in the community for another three years being sussy with no one calling him out for it

I'm not saying I need a medal but like name a street after me at least

No, he would've just broken the no politics rule ages ago because people like him can't not talk about it.

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 4:57 pm**

Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 3:47 pm
Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:10 am
Vekter wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:44 pm I cannot think for the life of me why you would even consider discussing Nazis anywhere on the internet. It's a bad idea, your take probably sucks, and you're probably going to get banned for saying something stupid.

Either way, if you're going to deny a holocaust you're stepping on rule 11 so just maybe... don't fucking talk about it here?

Christ, just nuke polcon at this point. rule 14, no politics at all. Go do it elsewhere.
This dude would have chilled in the community for another three years being sussy with no one calling him out for it

I'm not saying I need a medal but like name a street after me at least
No, he would've just broken the no politics rule ages ago because people like him can't not talk about it.

Well you say that but he was here for three years not in polcon

Timonk wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 12:50 pm by Timonk » Tue May 03, 2022 12:50 pm

Damn even these crickets are applauding

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 5:24 pm**

nianjiilical wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:55 pm ulica ta deez nuts

also polcon is one of the reasons i adamantly avoid discord moderating just replace it with touhou shitpost general

I would rather we not replace one kind of cesspit with a worse one, thanks.

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 6:06 pm**

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 4:57 pm
Vekter wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 3:47 pm
Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 2:10 am
Vekter wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:44 pm I cannot think for the life of me why you would even consider discussing Nazis anywhere on the internet. It's a bad idea, your take probably sucks, and you're probably going to get banned for saying something stupid.

Either way, if you're going to deny a holocaust you're stepping on rule 11 so just maybe... don't fucking talk about it here?

Christ, just nuke polcon at this point. rule 14, no politics at all. Go do it elsewhere.
This dude would have chilled in the community for another three years being sussy with no one calling him out for it

I'm not saying I need a medal but like name a street after me at least
No, he would've just broken the no politics rule ages ago because people like him can't not talk about it.
Well you say that but he was here for three years not in polcon

Timonk wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 12:50 pm by Timonk » Tue May 03, 2022 12:50 pm
Damn even these crickets are applauding

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 6:07 pm**

Ah fuck man these mosquito emojis look stupid

Posted: **Tue May 03, 2022 8:14 pm**

That super auto pets team sucks Timonk I'm sorry

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