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Read at your own risk peanut - I regret this

Post by Tearling » #639718

Bottom post of the previous page:

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On the surface how the fuck did this guy get banned.
This can't be a metagrudge on thoman's part because thoman was escalating based on something FormorA did IN THE ROUND.
And then the appeal gets denied for, and I quote, "but you both showed an in-game failure to understand how to avoid metagrudge conflict and poor, low-comm escalation routines."

Is there something in the logs I'm not seeing? This could be an escalation problem, but a metagrudge problem when Thoman was the one attacked? This is weird.
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sinfulbliss wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 8:37 pm I think admins should be banned from viewing the Player's Club for their own mental health. Appeals are probably already hard enough to handle without listening to 10 people take you apart over them
Admins should either not read peanuts or prepare the fortitude to handle wading through them. With that in mind if you think that the criticism happening in the town square is too harsh consider the way the criticism is being delivered along with the severity of the criticism and think about whether or not you want it to be the norm for your community. If you think people should be better about their feedback, stand up and encourage them.
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Re: Read at your own risk peanut - I regret this

Post by RaveRadbury » #640583

YBS wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 6:08 pm Just to clear the air, I quit because I am busy as fuck and multitasking with adminship was leading to bad calls (like this one) - not because a few self-righteous clowns said mean things to me online. Xoxo
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Post by Pandarsenic » #640585

YBS wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 6:08 pm Just to clear the air, I quit because I am busy as fuck and multitasking with adminship was leading to bad calls (like this one) - not because a few self-righteous clowns said mean things to me online. Xoxo
Decent call and I hope IF your life slows down enough to enable it AND you still find the idea appealing, you take another shot at it.
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Re: Retaliation bad peanut

Post by NoxVS » #640586

sinfulbliss wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 8:37 pm
thomanthewise5404 wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 8:25 pm some of you fellas were a little too aggressive in this thread
I think admins should be banned from viewing the Player's Club for their own mental health. Appeals are probably already hard enough to handle without listening to 10 people take you apart over them
And miss out on clowns with horrible takes giving me new things to put in my signature?
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Re: Read at your own risk peanut - I regret this

Post by sinfulbliss » #640610

RaveRadbury wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 7:15 pm
sinfulbliss wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 8:37 pm I think admins should be banned from viewing the Player's Club for their own mental health. Appeals are probably already hard enough to handle without listening to 10 people take you apart over them
Admins should either not read peanuts or prepare the fortitude to handle wading through them. With that in mind if you think that the criticism happening in the town square is too harsh consider the way the criticism is being delivered along with the severity of the criticism and think about whether or not you want it to be the norm for your community. If you think people should be better about their feedback, stand up and encourage them.
Point taken. I think you should make your point firm and not pull your punches if you believe there was an error, but it should never become personal and get to the point where you're just being mean. Sometimes you have to be harsh but being harsh and being just mean and hurtful are two different things.

FWIW I think Jorts was being hurtful. But multiple people told them this so I think the town square is sufficiently moderated with individuals that care about the tone of the dialogue.
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Post by Kendrickorium » #640614

RaveRadbury wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 7:15 pm
sinfulbliss wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 8:37 pm I think admins should be banned from viewing the Player's Club for their own mental health. Appeals are probably already hard enough to handle without listening to 10 people take you apart over them
Admins should either not read peanuts or prepare the fortitude to handle wading through them. With that in mind if you think that the criticism happening in the town square is too harsh consider the way the criticism is being delivered along with the severity of the criticism and think about whether or not you want it to be the norm for your community. If you think people should be better about their feedback, stand up and encourage them.
I think both the admins and appealer should be more than welcome to read and post in peanut threads. while a lot of these threads are mostly "lol that guy is an idiot", I firmly believe that amongst the comments a lot of players post new perspectives, ideas, and considerations that the admin and player might not have taken into account when whatever happened, happened.

edit: jorts a loon. he is at least 5 of these:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-a ... /logorrhea
I would strongly consider filtering him if you havent already
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Re: Read at your own risk peanut - I regret this

Post by Super Aggro Crag » #640616

jannie admits he fucks up but he has to call everyone who called him on his shit take "self-righteous clown"

good thing you've proven yourself completely fucking spineless cuz otherwise i'd worry about you breaking your back falling off your high horse you sanctimonious jackass.
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Post by jortsandshirts » #640620

YBS wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 6:08 pm Just to clear the air, I quit because I am busy as fuck and multitasking with adminship was leading to bad calls (like this one) - not because a few self-righteous clowns said mean things to me online. Xoxo
Don't forget Pieguy, your other bad call. Then the events in your admin feedback thread. Don't forget that either. If you knew you couldn't admin worth a fuck because you were too busy why were you still throwing out bans like poppers at a turkish bathhouse? Seems shitty bro. You sure had enough time to dedicate to your defense of these bullshit bans. Weird shit ain't it? Guys got no time to admin worth a fuck and it's leading to bad calls but you've got time to fax multiple posts per appeal out of your ass in defense of your shit bans. I notice you didn't even try to rescind your cockwash ban on pieguy there and that poor fuck has been waiting since APRIL 17TH

Like, holy shit you couldn't even give the smallest fuck to go back and help pieguy out even after you admit you were being a trashmin. Again, my dude, by. your. own. admission. you were making bullshit calls and this pieguy one is absolutely bonafide bad. To paraphrase your feels instead of facts stupidity. I feel you got nailed dead to rights and knew you had to duck on the latest shit ban but I think you feel like you might be able to roll the dice and maybe not look like an idiot again on that previous pieguy ban. You're literally just letting it linger cause you think you have better odds of it maybe going your way. That's fucked up, it's a shit ban, an incredibly shit note and the fact that you say you were being a shitmin because of other obligations rings a little toneless when you don't think your other ban sucked ass too.

"No no guys, my adminship was bad because of stuff in life but I'm totally right about THAT one"

Pieguys sat on the bench since the 17th because of you. Fuck your excuses when you didn't try to right that wrong after taking that pity-party approach to you being shit. Justice for Pieguy.
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justice for pieguy
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Post by Qbmax32 » #640627

jortsandshirts wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 3:49 am
YBS wrote: Wed May 11, 2022 6:08 pm Just to clear the air, I quit because I am busy as fuck and multitasking with adminship was leading to bad calls (like this one) - not because a few self-righteous clowns said mean things to me online. Xoxo
Don't forget Pieguy, your other bad call. Then the events in your admin feedback thread. Don't forget that either. If you knew you couldn't admin worth a fuck because you were too busy why were you still throwing out bans like poppers at a turkish bathhouse? Seems shitty bro. You sure had enough time to dedicate to your defense of these bullshit bans. Weird shit ain't it? Guys got no time to admin worth a fuck and it's leading to bad calls but you've got time to fax multiple posts per appeal out of your ass in defense of your shit bans. I notice you didn't even try to rescind your cockwash ban on pieguy there and that poor fuck has been waiting since APRIL 17TH

Like, holy shit you couldn't even give the smallest fuck to go back and help pieguy out even after you admit you were being a trashmin. Again, my dude, by. your. own. admission. you were making bullshit calls and this pieguy one is absolutely bonafide bad. To paraphrase your feels instead of facts stupidity. I feel you got nailed dead to rights and knew you had to duck on the latest shit ban but I think you feel like you might be able to roll the dice and maybe not look like an idiot again on that previous pieguy ban. You're literally just letting it linger cause you think you have better odds of it maybe going your way. That's fucked up, it's a shit ban, an incredibly shit note and the fact that you say you were being a shitmin because of other obligations rings a little toneless when you don't think your other ban sucked ass too.

"No no guys, my adminship was bad because of stuff in life but I'm totally right about THAT one"

Pieguys sat on the bench since the 17th because of you. Fuck your excuses when you didn't try to right that wrong after taking that pity-party approach to you being shit. Justice for Pieguy.
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Re: Read at your own risk peanut - I regret this

Post by Tearling » #640629

jortsandshirts wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 3:49 am Fuck your excuses when you didn't try to right that wrong after taking that pity-party approach to you being shit.
Your lack of self-awareness is astounding.
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Timberpoes wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:41 am From my perspective, players just want to genuinely be listened to. And I don't mean it condescendingly, but to genuinely have their say and for admins to listen, process it and reply. Even if you don't give two shits about what the player is saying, even if you disagree with every part of what they say, players are less likely to leave an ahelp pissed off if you've listened to them and given a reply that directly addresses what they've told you.
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Post by Vekter » #640657

Right move overturning this one. I think YBS just missed a few details, happens to the best of us.
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Post by Super Aggro Crag » #640659

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Vekter wrote: Thu May 12, 2022 4:06 pm Right move overturning this one. I think YBS just missed a few details, happens to the best of us.
Happens to the worst of you too
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Post by jortsandshirts » #640715

Has pieguy got his justice yet?
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Post by toemas » #640749

i find it really hard to agree with the people in the thread saying it was an "honest mistake" or he "missed something" it definitely felt malicious to me, dude ignores everything i have to say to him, gaslights me during the ticket and appeal, and even supposedly gave the dude who instigated the whole thing a 3 day ban when i received a seven day ban
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Post by jortsandshirts » #640792

You don't got to agree with those people. Those people are rubes, they've been duped. Notice how they give the benefit of the doubt to YBS but not to you? Brown nosing boot-lickery is all they know even when the person is no longer wielding any authority. Sorry thomas, hopefully pieguy gets justice.

Justice for pieguy, mothblocks this has gone on long enough.
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