/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 4:02 am**

thomanthewise5404 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 1:26 am Ban reason: Was attacked by an engineer with a fire axe twice wordlessly for breaking into tech storage. They took the axe from the engineer, killed them with it and spaced them. Next time follow escalation rules and take them to medical when you defeat them, if they were to attack again after that point and you win, then you get to space them at that point.

Your side of the story: A guy walked up to me and started stabbing me with a fireaxe. i left. then, later, he came back and started fireaxing again. so i killed him then i threw him out an airlock. then i got noted.(he did not say a single word to me during this entire interaction)

Why you think you should be unbanned: the dude tried to murder me on two occasions, round removal is justified. dude took the fireaxe from atmos roundstart and then ran around looking for valids, then he got owned

Non-antags acting like an antag can be treated as an antag.

If I wanted to remain in the round, I would simply not go looking for trouble with the most dangerous non-baton melee weapon on the station and then lose anyway.

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 4:04 am**

if your breaking in anywhere. Dont respond in kind with lethal weapons, without at least trying to explain yourself! your the aggressor!

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 4:16 am**

Shadowflame909 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 4:04 am if your breaking in anywhere. Dont respond in kind with lethal weapons, without at least trying to explain yourself! your the aggressor!

i had no idea if he was even attacking me because of the tech storage break-in, he didnt use his words. also tech storage is not his department and breaking into it is not instigating a conflict, the literal whole purpose of the room is to store things for people to go and grab when they need it

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 4:32 am**

how many appeals can one man make in one month? i think thomas is trying to set a record here.

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 4:39 am**

this is something that can only be solved with logs and timing

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 4:58 am**

rules say you have to revive them, they say nothing about keeping limbs as trophies

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 5:29 am**

Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 4:58 am rules say you have to revive them, they say nothing about keeping limbs as trophies

Okay but consider:

If you wordlessly come at someone with an axe without an obvious reason from the very start, whatever you get is fair game

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 6:07 am**

thomanthewise5404 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 4:16 am i had no idea if he was even attacking me because of the tech storage break-in, he didnt use his words. also tech storage is not his department and breaking into it is not instigating a conflict, the literal whole purpose of the room is to store things for people to go and grab when they need it

I think you're in the right in this situation judging by the info we have, but it's bad form to post in your own peanut. Shoo!

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 6:36 am**

Farquaar wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:07 am
thomanthewise5404 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 4:16 am i had no idea if he was even attacking me because of the tech storage break-in, he didnt use his words. also tech storage is not his department and breaking into it is not instigating a conflict, the literal whole purpose of the room is to store things for people to go and grab when they need it
I think you're in the right in this situation judging by the info we have, but it's bad form to post in your own peanut. Shoo!

r u making this up? can anyone confirm

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 7:10 am**

Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 5:29 am
Kendrickorium wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 4:58 am rules say you have to revive them, they say nothing about keeping limbs as trophies
Okay but consider:

If you wordlessly come at someone with an axe without an obvious reason from the very start, whatever you get is fair game

oh I agree, i'm just saying there are alternatives to spacing and reviving

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 12:42 pm**

I've actually said this before, but the expectation to drag some idiot that tried to kill you to medbay is insane. Current escalation policy forces the unnatural behavior of sheepishly dragging someone you were likely forced to kill to medbay (no one does this) and just waiting for him to gear up and killbait you again properly (they always come back with a batong, always). It's probably the most spectrum-ey policy we have. No human would do this.

If someone has forced me to kill them I am not going to help them. Especially not going to bother dragging them to medical. I killed them for a reason.

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 1:24 pm**

thomanthewise5404 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:36 am
Farquaar wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 6:07 am
thomanthewise5404 wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 4:16 am i had no idea if he was even attacking me because of the tech storage break-in, he didnt use his words. also tech storage is not his department and breaking into it is not instigating a conflict, the literal whole purpose of the room is to store things for people to go and grab when they need it
I think you're in the right in this situation judging by the info we have, but it's bad form to post in your own peanut. Shoo!
r u making this up? can anyone confirm

Don't post in your own peanut if you can help it.

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 3:15 pm**

its not a rule, soulless forum people with no lives will just think you're self-obsessed.

I wonder why the engineer felt the need to steal (Engineers dont have access to the atmos tech cabinet im pretty sure) the most deadly crew-available weapon on station to what, see off a petty thief in a storage area?

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 5:22 pm**

This pretty much sums up why I dislike the new escalation rules.

Not to mention the person who attacked them broke escalation rules themselves. Randomly attacking someone with a fireaxe for a tech storage break-in. If they weren’t an engineer that in itself is improper escalation. And even if they were an engineer, randomly attacking them a second time unprompted, after Phillip had already vacated tech storage, is definitely bad escalation.

But the escalation rules are sort of messed up and require you to bring the person that’s actively attempting to murder you to medbay. I could see an argument made against RR’ing them and spacing, but requiring them to bring the person to medbay or brig or anywhere is way over-the-top. Think about it from a roleplay perspective. Some dude just tried to cut your head off twice, clearly with the intent to kill (and by extension probably decap). After you beat him you’re expected to bring the guy who wants you dead to med? What if they were a traitor who had you as a target?

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 5:33 pm**

sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 5:22 pm This pretty much sums up why I dislike the new escalation rules.

Not to mention the person who attacked them broke escalation rules themselves. Randomly attacking someone with a fireaxe for a tech storage break-in. If they weren’t an engineer that in itself is improper escalation. And even if they were an engineer, randomly attacking them a second time unprompted, after Phillip had already vacated tech storage, is definitely bad escalation.

But the escalation rules are sort of messed up and require you to bring the person that’s actively attempting to murder you to medbay. I could see an argument made against RR’ing them and spacing, but requiring them to bring the person to medbay or brig or anywhere is way over-the-top. Think about it from a roleplay perspective. Some dude just tried to cut your head off twice, clearly with the intent to kill (and by extension probably decap). After you beat him you’re expected to bring the guy who wants you dead to med? What if they were a traitor who had you as a target?

Well put. Escalation ending at revival is kinda dumb as well.

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 6:27 pm**

Hauling some dork you bulldozed to medbay is the best part of this escalation stuff. It's the walk of shame, their shame. It's your time to shine as you do all the surgery to bring them back yourself. Implant their ID in their chest and remove their tongue. Do they got some gear you want? It's yours now.

To the victor goes the spoils and if they decide to be a rude nerd because it's YOU trying to fix them so they go DNR then you get to haul that body to flavourtown and help the chef cook up some Dorkburgs. If they retaliate after they get revived then that's ahelpable as the fights over but I rather it be turned into a cat and mouse game without admins stepping in however stilla bwoink especially for anything like the implant in chest, tongue or jacking their glubs. That's all stuff that's ghost knowledge. Keeping people out of the round is lame, floor dragging your opponent to Medbay and giving them a glasstableotomy while explaining what they did to the bemused medical staff is well worth the price of admission.

Posted: **Fri May 13, 2022 8:05 pm**

I'm going to editorialize about the logs here what I had to not say in the thread

1) Phillip was a Thief!!
2) Joey spawns in, lies about protecting the axe, then 24 seconds after taking the axe wordlessly engages Phillip, never speaking again for the rest of the round.
3) Phillip flees to get medical attention, gets flashed by Joey, who has now stolen a second weapon to validhunt... and then Joey STILL somehow gets clowned on.
4) The admin later removes his antag status? What's going on there?

Logs:

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Logs pulled at https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/183 ... defined-97 and https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/183 ... e=game.txt

12:17:38 GAME Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has gained antag datum �Thief(/datum/antagonist/thief)

12:18:22 SAY TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) "hiya" (164, 126, 2) Atmospherics Gas Storage
12:18:26 SAY TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) "im here to protect" (163, 126, 2) Atmospherics Gas Storage
12:18:29 SAY TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) "axe" (163, 122, 2) Atmospherics
12:18:38 SAY TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) "chef stole it last round" (162, 118, 2) Atmospherics
12:19:04 SAY TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) "what" (161, 127, 2) Atmospherics Gas Storage
12:19:08 SAY TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) "nice" (161, 128, 2) Atmospherics Gas Storage
12:19:12 SAY TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) "can i exit?" (161, 128, 2) Atmospherics Gas Storage
12:19:14 SAY TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) "seeya" (161, 130, 2) Atmospherics Gas Storage

These are the first and last words Joey Powell speaks for the entire round

12:19:25 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked *no key*/(mouse) with welding tool (COMBAT MODE: 0) (DAMTYPE: BURN) (NEWHP: 0) (143, 145, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance

12:19:38 ATTACK TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) has shoved Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with knocking them down (NEWHP: 100) (142, 145, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:41 ATTACK TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) has kicks Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 100) (143, 146, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:41 ATTACK TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) has shoved Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (NEWHP: 100) (143, 146, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:43 ATTACK TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) has attacked Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 76) (142, 147, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:44 ATTACK TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) has attacked Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 52) (142, 147, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:46 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with Uncle Git's special reserve (NEWHP: 86.5) (142, 147, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:48 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has shaken TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) (NEWHP: 86.5) (143, 147, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:49 ATTACK TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) has attacked Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 34) (144, 147, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance

12:19:50 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has suffered: Open Laceration to human chest | Damage: 24 (rolled 81/85.5649) | WB: -15 | BWB: 20 (142, 145, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:50 ATTACK TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) has attacked Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 10) (143, 145, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:53 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attempted to inject Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with the epinephrine medipen (Epinephrine, Formaldehyde and Sanguirite) (NEWHP: 10.2) (138, 141, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:53 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/epinephrine (10u, 1 purity), /datum/reagent/toxin/formaldehyde (3u, 0.75 purity) and /datum/reagent/medicine/coagulant (2u, 1 purity)) from the epinephrine medipen to Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (NEWHP: 10.2) (138, 141, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:19:53 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has injected Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with the epinephrine medipen (Epinephrine, Formaldehyde and Sanguirite) (NEWHP: 10.2) (138, 141, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance

12:20:06 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 20.4) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:07 ATTACK Capsandi/(Nat Wheeler) has attempted to inject Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with the epinephrine medipen (Epinephrine, Formaldehyde and Sanguirite) (NEWHP: 20.4) (131, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:07 ATTACK Capsandi/(Nat Wheeler) has transferred reagents (/datum/reagent/medicine/epinephrine (10u, 1 purity), /datum/reagent/toxin/formaldehyde (3u, 0.75 purity) and /datum/reagent/medicine/coagulant (2u, 1 purity)) from the epinephrine medipen to Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (NEWHP: 20.4) (131, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:07 ATTACK Capsandi/(Nat Wheeler) has injected Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with the epinephrine medipen (Epinephrine, Formaldehyde and Sanguirite) (NEWHP: 20.4) (131, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:09 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 29.6) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:13 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 39.8) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:15 ATTACK *no key*/(�Medibot) has tended the wounds of Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with internal tools (BRUTE) (NEWHP: 42.3) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:16 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 52.3) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:17 ATTACK *no key*/(�Medibot) has tended the wounds of Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with internal tools (BRUTE) (NEWHP: 54.2) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:21 ATTACK *no key*/(�Medibot) has tended the wounds of Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with internal tools (BRUTE) (NEWHP: 56.1) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:21 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 66.1) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:23 ATTACK *no key*/(�Medibot) has tended the wounds of Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with internal tools (BRUTE) (NEWHP: 68.6) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:24 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 76.1) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:25 ATTACK *no key*/(�Medibot) has tended the wounds of Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with internal tools (BRUTE) (NEWHP: 77.9) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:28 ATTACK *no key*/(�Medibot) has tended the wounds of Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with internal tools (BRUTE) (NEWHP: 79.8) (132, 142, 2) Auxiliary Tool Storage
12:20:29 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 89.8)

12:20:36 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has shoved TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) (NEWHP: 86.5) (133, 138, 2) Starboard Primary Hallway
12:20:43 ATTACK TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) has flashed(targeted) Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with the flash (NEWHP: 89.8) (136, 138, 2) Starboard Primary Hallway
12:20:43 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has shoved TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) (NEWHP: 86.5) (136, 139, 2) Starboard Primary Hallway
12:20:46 ATTACK TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) has attacked Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 65.8) (138, 138, 2) Starboard Primary Hallway
12:20:46 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has shoved TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) (NEWHP: 86.5) (138, 139, 2) Starboard Primary Hallway

12:21:24 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has kicks TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with onto their side (paralyzing) (NEWHP: 86.5) (129, 145, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:21:24 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has shoved TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) (NEWHP: 86.5) (129, 145, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:21:25 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has shoved TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with into Phillip Thomas (NEWHP: 86.5) (130, 145, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:21:26 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 62.5) (130, 145, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:21:26 ATTACK Private Tristan/(Tristan Quilt) has shoved Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (NEWHP: 65.8) (130, 145, 2) Fore Starboard Maintenance
12:21:30 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked Private Tristan/(Tristan Quilt) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 79.6) (127, 145, 2) Central Primary Hallway
12:21:37 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked [��Central Primary Hallway omni air scrubber BZEaQ] with the fire axe (Wielded) (126, 123, 2) Central Primary Hallway
12:21:39 ATTACK Igor_Lima/(Adam Murdock) has shoved Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (NEWHP: 65.8) (125, 115, 2) Central Primary Hallway
12:21:40 ATTACK Igor_Lima/(Adam Murdock) has punched Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (NEWHP: 61.8) (119, 115, 2) Central Primary Hallway
12:21:45 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 42.7) (107, 104, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:21:46 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 21.1) (107, 99, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:21:47 ATTACK TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) has shoved Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (NEWHP: 61.8) (106, 96, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:21:48 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: 0) (107, 93, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:21:56 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -36.1) (107, 94, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:21:57 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -65.5) (107, 94, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:21:58 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -97) (107, 94, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:21:59 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -121.6) (107, 94, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:21:59 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -145.9) (107, 94, 2) Aft Primary Hallway

12:22:01 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has attacked TheManOfChair/(Joey Powell) with fire axe (Wielded) (COMBAT MODE: 1) (DAMTYPE: BRUTE) (NEWHP: -173.8) (107, 94, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:22:18 ATTACK Private Tristan/(Tristan Quilt) has threw and hit Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with Joey Powell (Station Engineer) (NEWHP: 61.8) (107, 86, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:22:29 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) *no key*/(Joey Powell) is being stripped of the insulated gloves by Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (107, 86, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:22:29 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) *no key*/(Joey Powell) is being stripped of the insulated gloves by Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (107, 86, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:22:36 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has flashed(targeted) Private Tristan/(Tristan Quilt) with the flash (NEWHP: 79.6) (107, 85, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:22:37 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has grabbed *no key*/(Joey Powell) passive grab (NEWHP: -182.2) (107, 85, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:22:38 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has grabbed *no key*/(Joey Powell) aggressive grab (NEWHP: -182.2) (107, 87, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:22:44 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) started fireman carrying Unknown (107, 87, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:22:46 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) *no key*/(Joey Powell) is being stripped of the insulated gloves by Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (107, 87, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:22:48 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) *no key*/(Joey Powell) has been stripped of the insulated gloves by Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) (107, 87, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:22:59 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) is no longer being ridden by Unknown (109, 59, 2) Space
12:22:59 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has thrown *no key*/(Joey Powell) grab from tile in Space (109,59,2) towards tile at Space (113,56,2) (NEWHP: -185.4) (109, 59, 2) Space
12:22:59 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has thrown Unknown (109, 59, 2) Space

12:23:12 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 62.6) (107, 88, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:23:15 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 67.9) (107, 88, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:23:18 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 77.9) (107, 88, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:23:21 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 87.9) (107, 88, 2) Aft Primary Hallway
12:23:24 ATTACK Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) has healed Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas) with suture (NEWHP: 91.9)

12:24:56 ADMIN That Engineer/(John Barren) checked the individual player panel for Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas).
12:25:00 ADMIN That Engineer/(John Barren) checked the individual player panel for Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas).
12:26:08 ADMIN That Engineer/(John Barren) has removed �Thief antagonist status from Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas).

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 1:42 am**

Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 8:05 pm
4) The admin later removes his antag status? What's going on there?

Logs:

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12:26:08 ADMIN That Engineer/(John Barren) has removed �Thief antagonist status from Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas).

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 4:21 am**

12:24:56 ADMIN That Engineer/(John Barren) checked the individual player panel for Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas).
12:25:00 ADMIN That Engineer/(John Barren) checked the individual player panel for Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas).
12:26:08 ADMIN That Engineer/(John Barren) has removed �Thief antagonist status from Realthoman_/(Phillip Thomas).

Why?

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 5:47 am**

Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Fri May 13, 2022 8:05 pm 4) The admin later removes his antag status? What's going on there?

Are the legends true? Will we get a third deadmining in a month? What does this herald? Is Phillip really this power? I'm getting spooked that soon enough not even an elance will be able to stop him.

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 6:19 am**

Honestly I'd prefer if there's a good explanation for it and it's not some sketchy fuckery.

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 6:26 am**

If Phillip had an issue with his Thief status being removed, he would have mentioned it in the appeal or in an admin complaint. As it is now you guys are wickedly over thinking it.

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 6:28 am**

Probably. But it's funny to talk about conspiracies

The admins realize how overplayed and ban baity the thief antag is so they remove it before anyone complains and gets it removed ala swarmers

Maintainer Headmins will make thief a success by force if they have too!!!!!!

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 6:55 am**

AwkwardStereo wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 6:26 am If Phillip had an issue with his Thief status being removed, he would have mentioned it in the appeal or in an admin complaint. As it is now you guys are wickedly over thinking it.

Almost certainly. It's just weird to see.

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 6:58 am**

i rolled thief and asked the admin to remove it because i didnt feel like playing it, its unrelated to the ticket

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 8:37 am**

thomanthewise5404 wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 6:58 am i rolled thief and asked the admin to remove it because i didnt feel like playing it, its unrelated to the ticket

i can't believe ur part of the conspiracy

what did they pay u

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 10:17 am**

>get assaulted by a maniac with an axe in a style only antags are allowed to do (no escalation unga bunga murderbone)
>Treat the other player as an antag due to them acting exactly like one
>Get a note for responding to valid behavior by validing the aggressor
Yeah the logs make it very fucking clear that this Joey asshole was self antagging, metagrudging and ick ocking in his pursuit of making spessman horizontal.
Thomas literally did nothing wrong here and the other dude should eat a ban for the cringe he made me read through.

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 6:20 pm**

What, you don't like hearing people talk about rounds IC?

Posted: **Sat May 14, 2022 6:25 pm**

Getting fire-axed and then having an appeals thread is now the Thoman Special

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