/tg/Station 13

RaveRadbury wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:00 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi1KebO4bzc

Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:29 pm too high

MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:37 am We let ourselves get dependant on a royal monarchy and also a dictator for our way of life and we could end it if we just banned exports isolating our prices from the world market but we can't ban exports because our refineries can't even refine the type of oil we extract from the ground so we have to sell it to other countries and buy the type of oil we can refine and waste gas shipping all of that around the world, also the type of oil we can refine is more useful for making lubricating oils and less fuels so we also end up having to import refined fuels while also sorta refining some of them ourselves. its all stupid and technically obama's fault because somebody pointed out how useful it would be to refine our own oils if russia goes full war back in the obama administration and nothing got done but actually you can say that about trump and bush and biden and clinton and probably also bush.

san7890 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 1:44 am Sorry I had to yawn and I lost my place reading

Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:45 am
In other political news, Roe v. Wade (and thereby Casey as well) has been overturned- anyone have any thoughts on this? Additionally, I wonder how this will impact the midterms. Before this, it looked like an apparent Republican surge would happen, though that may not be as certain now. Without regards to my personal opinions, I still believe the Rs will have it, but maybe to a lesser degree than before. Abortion is a very strong issue to a lot of people, but so is the economy, inflation, and gas prices, which the public largely blame on the Democrats. Whether or not the blame is justified, I believe that this is going to be the main decider during the midterms.

nianjiilical wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:14 am im canadian

Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:18 am

Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:45 am
In other political news, Roe v. Wade (and thereby Casey as well) has been overturned- anyone have any thoughts on this? Additionally, I wonder how this will impact the midterms. Before this, it looked like an apparent Republican surge would happen, though that may not be as certain now. Without regards to my personal opinions, I still believe the Rs will have it, but maybe to a lesser degree than before. Abortion is a very strong issue to a lot of people, but so is the economy, inflation, and gas prices, which the public largely blame on the Democrats. Whether or not the blame is justified, I believe that this is going to be the main decider during the midterms.

Quite honestly, the Roe v. Wade decision is a huge fuck up on the supreme courts behalf. Independent from your personal beliefs on ethics, its really just a shitty decision.

Many states have laws that protect the right to abortion, so its not a banning of abortion by any means. Further, the states that do and don't protect abortion are spread pretty evenly about the USA, meaning border hopping to get an abortion is going to become both extremely accessible and prevalent.

As we all know, politicians are scum sucking concession makers who compromise their morals constantly in order to grow their power, justifying their disregard of personal ethics with the idea that if they can get into power, they can push their agenda which they see as good. (Unless of course, we are talking about the truly evil bastards who are just in it for the money and power. (Looking at the guy who switched what political party he was running for because of trends that show that the dominant political party in office tended to alternate))

That being said, I have no idea what possessed the court to make such a radical yet somewhat inconsequential move, the only thing I can think of is that they are repaying some debt, or trying to curry favor with someone.

Politics are fun! get rid of labels and dichotomies, they make politics simpler and more boring.

chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:30 am Does this mean Medbay can't remove Xeno larvas anymore?

Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:18 am

Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:45 am
In other political news, Roe v. Wade (and thereby Casey as well) has been overturned- anyone have any thoughts on this? Additionally, I wonder how this will impact the midterms. Before this, it looked like an apparent Republican surge would happen, though that may not be as certain now. Without regards to my personal opinions, I still believe the Rs will have it, but maybe to a lesser degree than before. Abortion is a very strong issue to a lot of people, but so is the economy, inflation, and gas prices, which the public largely blame on the Democrats. Whether or not the blame is justified, I believe that this is going to be the main decider during the midterms.

Quite honestly, the Roe v. Wade decision is a huge fuck up on the supreme courts behalf. Independent from your personal beliefs on ethics, its really just a shitty decision.

Many states have laws that protect the right to abortion, so its not a banning of abortion by any means. Further, the states that do and don't protect abortion are spread pretty evenly about the USA, meaning border hopping to get an abortion is going to become both extremely accessible and prevalent.

As we all know, politicians are scum sucking concession makers who compromise their morals constantly in order to grow their power, justifying their disregard of personal ethics with the idea that if they can get into power, they can push their agenda which they see as good. (Unless of course, we are talking about the truly evil bastards who are just in it for the money and power. (Looking at the guy who switched what political party he was running for because of trends that show that the dominant political party in office tended to alternate))

That being said, I have no idea what possessed the court to make such a radical yet somewhat inconsequential move, the only thing I can think of is that they are repaying some debt, or trying to curry favor with someone.

Politics are fun! get rid of labels and dichotomies, they make politics simpler and more boring.

Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:03 am
If you bothered to read the decision, it's because the original decision, Roe v Wade, was basically judicial activist lawmaking, and the right to abortion is nowhere in the Constitution, and the Supreme Court (and the federal government for that matter) never had the authority or jurisdiction over the issue of abortion in the first place. It was frankly a gross abuse of power that they decided Roe the way they did, especially when you consider that judges are appointed, not elected. Or do you really want a bunch of un-elected judges with effectively zero accountability creating your laws for you, just because you happened to agree with this one?

Maybe you should read what the Court says regarding it's decision before deciding to give your opinion on the matter, especially when accusing them of being unethical or of doing misconduct.

Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:03 am

Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:18 am

Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:45 am
In other political news, Roe v. Wade (and thereby Casey as well) has been overturned- anyone have any thoughts on this? Additionally, I wonder how this will impact the midterms. Before this, it looked like an apparent Republican surge would happen, though that may not be as certain now. Without regards to my personal opinions, I still believe the Rs will have it, but maybe to a lesser degree than before. Abortion is a very strong issue to a lot of people, but so is the economy, inflation, and gas prices, which the public largely blame on the Democrats. Whether or not the blame is justified, I believe that this is going to be the main decider during the midterms.

Quite honestly, the Roe v. Wade decision is a huge fuck up on the supreme courts behalf. Independent from your personal beliefs on ethics, its really just a shitty decision.

Many states have laws that protect the right to abortion, so its not a banning of abortion by any means. Further, the states that do and don't protect abortion are spread pretty evenly about the USA, meaning border hopping to get an abortion is going to become both extremely accessible and prevalent.

As we all know, politicians are scum sucking concession makers who compromise their morals constantly in order to grow their power, justifying their disregard of personal ethics with the idea that if they can get into power, they can push their agenda which they see as good. (Unless of course, we are talking about the truly evil bastards who are just in it for the money and power. (Looking at the guy who switched what political party he was running for because of trends that show that the dominant political party in office tended to alternate))

That being said, I have no idea what possessed the court to make such a radical yet somewhat inconsequential move, the only thing I can think of is that they are repaying some debt, or trying to curry favor with someone.

Politics are fun! get rid of labels and dichotomies, they make politics simpler and more boring.

If you bothered to read the decision, it's because the original decision, Roe v Wade, was basically judicial activist lawmaking, and the right to abortion is nowhere in the Constitution, and the Supreme Court (and the federal government for that matter) never had the authority or jurisdiction over the issue of abortion in the first place. It was frankly a gross abuse of power that they decided Roe the way they did, especially when you consider that judges are appointed, not elected. Or do you really want a bunch of un-elected judges with effectively zero accountability creating your laws for you, just because you happened to agree with this one?

Maybe you should read what the Court says regarding it's decision before deciding to give your opinion on the matter, especially when accusing them of being unethical or of doing misconduct.

Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:43 pm

Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:03 am
If you bothered to read the decision, it's because the original decision, Roe v Wade, was basically judicial activist lawmaking, and the right to abortion is nowhere in the Constitution, and the Supreme Court (and the federal government for that matter) never had the authority or jurisdiction over the issue of abortion in the first place. It was frankly a gross abuse of power that they decided Roe the way they did, especially when you consider that judges are appointed, not elected. Or do you really want a bunch of un-elected judges with effectively zero accountability creating your laws for you, just because you happened to agree with this one?

Maybe you should read what the Court says regarding it's decision before deciding to give your opinion on the matter, especially when accusing them of being unethical or of doing misconduct.

The decision in question was ruling that laws against abortion were a violation against the 14th amendment's right to privacy. The supreme court has also used the same amendment as an argument to prevent laws against oral sex.
It's irresponsible to claim it has no constitutional basis.

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:37 pm

Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:03 am

Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:18 am

Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:45 am
In other political news, Roe v. Wade (and thereby Casey as well) has been overturned- anyone have any thoughts on this? Additionally, I wonder how this will impact the midterms. Before this, it looked like an apparent Republican surge would happen, though that may not be as certain now. Without regards to my personal opinions, I still believe the Rs will have it, but maybe to a lesser degree than before. Abortion is a very strong issue to a lot of people, but so is the economy, inflation, and gas prices, which the public largely blame on the Democrats. Whether or not the blame is justified, I believe that this is going to be the main decider during the midterms.

Quite honestly, the Roe v. Wade decision is a huge fuck up on the supreme courts behalf. Independent from your personal beliefs on ethics, its really just a shitty decision.

Many states have laws that protect the right to abortion, so its not a banning of abortion by any means. Further, the states that do and don't protect abortion are spread pretty evenly about the USA, meaning border hopping to get an abortion is going to become both extremely accessible and prevalent.

As we all know, politicians are scum sucking concession makers who compromise their morals constantly in order to grow their power, justifying their disregard of personal ethics with the idea that if they can get into power, they can push their agenda which they see as good. (Unless of course, we are talking about the truly evil bastards who are just in it for the money and power. (Looking at the guy who switched what political party he was running for because of trends that show that the dominant political party in office tended to alternate))

That being said, I have no idea what possessed the court to make such a radical yet somewhat inconsequential move, the only thing I can think of is that they are repaying some debt, or trying to curry favor with someone.

Politics are fun! get rid of labels and dichotomies, they make politics simpler and more boring.

If you bothered to read the decision, it's because the original decision, Roe v Wade, was basically judicial activist lawmaking, and the right to abortion is nowhere in the Constitution, and the Supreme Court (and the federal government for that matter) never had the authority or jurisdiction over the issue of abortion in the first place. It was frankly a gross abuse of power that they decided Roe the way they did, especially when you consider that judges are appointed, not elected. Or do you really want a bunch of un-elected judges with effectively zero accountability creating your laws for you, just because you happened to agree with this one?

Maybe you should read what the Court says regarding it's decision before deciding to give your opinion on the matter, especially when accusing them of being unethical or of doing misconduct.

The right for individuals to walk around with guns for shits and giggles is also nowhere in the constitution, but the Supreme Court also just crossed out the second half of that line in the second amendment for shits and giggles. If this was actually remotely truly why they were overturning Roe v Wade they'd have been overturning the Court's previous massive untextual expansions to the second amendment, not expanding them even further days beforehand.

Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:40 pm

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:37 pm

Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:03 am

Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:18 am

Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:45 am
In other political news, Roe v. Wade (and thereby Casey as well) has been overturned- anyone have any thoughts on this? Additionally, I wonder how this will impact the midterms. Before this, it looked like an apparent Republican surge would happen, though that may not be as certain now. Without regards to my personal opinions, I still believe the Rs will have it, but maybe to a lesser degree than before. Abortion is a very strong issue to a lot of people, but so is the economy, inflation, and gas prices, which the public largely blame on the Democrats. Whether or not the blame is justified, I believe that this is going to be the main decider during the midterms.

Quite honestly, the Roe v. Wade decision is a huge fuck up on the supreme courts behalf. Independent from your personal beliefs on ethics, its really just a shitty decision.

Many states have laws that protect the right to abortion, so its not a banning of abortion by any means. Further, the states that do and don't protect abortion are spread pretty evenly about the USA, meaning border hopping to get an abortion is going to become both extremely accessible and prevalent.

As we all know, politicians are scum sucking concession makers who compromise their morals constantly in order to grow their power, justifying their disregard of personal ethics with the idea that if they can get into power, they can push their agenda which they see as good. (Unless of course, we are talking about the truly evil bastards who are just in it for the money and power. (Looking at the guy who switched what political party he was running for because of trends that show that the dominant political party in office tended to alternate))

That being said, I have no idea what possessed the court to make such a radical yet somewhat inconsequential move, the only thing I can think of is that they are repaying some debt, or trying to curry favor with someone.

Politics are fun! get rid of labels and dichotomies, they make politics simpler and more boring.

If you bothered to read the decision, it's because the original decision, Roe v Wade, was basically judicial activist lawmaking, and the right to abortion is nowhere in the Constitution, and the Supreme Court (and the federal government for that matter) never had the authority or jurisdiction over the issue of abortion in the first place. It was frankly a gross abuse of power that they decided Roe the way they did, especially when you consider that judges are appointed, not elected. Or do you really want a bunch of un-elected judges with effectively zero accountability creating your laws for you, just because you happened to agree with this one?

Maybe you should read what the Court says regarding it's decision before deciding to give your opinion on the matter, especially when accusing them of being unethical or of doing misconduct.

The right for individuals to walk around with guns for shits and giggles is also nowhere in the constitution, but the Supreme Court also just crossed out the second half of that line in the second amendment for shits and giggles. If this was actually remotely truly why they were overturning Roe v Wade they'd have been overturning the Court's previous massive untextual expansions to the second amendment, not expanding them even further days beforehand.

Except it's literally there in plain and concise text that even a 5 year old could understand? "Shall not be infringed" is pretty fucking clear. Nowhere in the 2nd amendment is a line that says "Oh, it can be infringed if they're talking about open-carry though".

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:52 pm

Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:40 pm

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:37 pm

Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:03 am

Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:18 am

Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:45 am
In other political news, Roe v. Wade (and thereby Casey as well) has been overturned- anyone have any thoughts on this? Additionally, I wonder how this will impact the midterms. Before this, it looked like an apparent Republican surge would happen, though that may not be as certain now. Without regards to my personal opinions, I still believe the Rs will have it, but maybe to a lesser degree than before. Abortion is a very strong issue to a lot of people, but so is the economy, inflation, and gas prices, which the public largely blame on the Democrats. Whether or not the blame is justified, I believe that this is going to be the main decider during the midterms.

Quite honestly, the Roe v. Wade decision is a huge fuck up on the supreme courts behalf. Independent from your personal beliefs on ethics, its really just a shitty decision.

Many states have laws that protect the right to abortion, so its not a banning of abortion by any means. Further, the states that do and don't protect abortion are spread pretty evenly about the USA, meaning border hopping to get an abortion is going to become both extremely accessible and prevalent.

As we all know, politicians are scum sucking concession makers who compromise their morals constantly in order to grow their power, justifying their disregard of personal ethics with the idea that if they can get into power, they can push their agenda which they see as good. (Unless of course, we are talking about the truly evil bastards who are just in it for the money and power. (Looking at the guy who switched what political party he was running for because of trends that show that the dominant political party in office tended to alternate))

That being said, I have no idea what possessed the court to make such a radical yet somewhat inconsequential move, the only thing I can think of is that they are repaying some debt, or trying to curry favor with someone.

Politics are fun! get rid of labels and dichotomies, they make politics simpler and more boring.

If you bothered to read the decision, it's because the original decision, Roe v Wade, was basically judicial activist lawmaking, and the right to abortion is nowhere in the Constitution, and the Supreme Court (and the federal government for that matter) never had the authority or jurisdiction over the issue of abortion in the first place. It was frankly a gross abuse of power that they decided Roe the way they did, especially when you consider that judges are appointed, not elected. Or do you really want a bunch of un-elected judges with effectively zero accountability creating your laws for you, just because you happened to agree with this one?

Maybe you should read what the Court says regarding it's decision before deciding to give your opinion on the matter, especially when accusing them of being unethical or of doing misconduct.

The right for individuals to walk around with guns for shits and giggles is also nowhere in the constitution, but the Supreme Court also just crossed out the second half of that line in the second amendment for shits and giggles. If this was actually remotely truly why they were overturning Roe v Wade they'd have been overturning the Court's previous massive untextual expansions to the second amendment, not expanding them even further days beforehand.

Except it's literally there in plain and concise text that even a 5 year old could understand? "Shall not be infringed" is pretty fucking clear. Nowhere in the 2nd amendment is a line that says "Oh, it can be infringed if they're talking about open-carry though".

And yet the well regulated militia is nowhere to be seen and clearly not necessary to the security of the State because it hasnt existed for like two centuries but the fact that that's the justification for arms rights, not mystical woo about personal freedoms, is swept under the rug under the bonus of not upsetting americans and their expensive toys lmao

san7890 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:57 pm i thought this thread was satire

Imitates-The-Lizards wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:58 pm

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:52 pm snipped for pyramid

You should read district of columbia v. heller sometime. The clause regarding militia is not a restriction on gun rights.

Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:45 am How do you feel about Extreme intoxication bill that is very likely to become a law passed in Canada by 2023?

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:42 pm law isnt real and it isnt a special arcane ritual that binds people to it, law is fake its made up post hoc justifications for whatever those in power want to do

the supreme court are the high priests of the american religious document (the constitution) and their interpretation is based purely on their political motivations

i do not like liberals

Bawhoppennn wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:45 am In other political news, Roe v. Wade (and thereby Casey as well) has been overturned- anyone have any thoughts on this?

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:42 pm law isnt real and it isnt a special arcane ritual that binds people to it, law is fake its made up post hoc justifications for whatever those in power want to do

the supreme court are the high priests of the american religious document (the constitution) and their interpretation is based purely on their political motivations

i do not like liberals

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:18 am

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:42 pm law isnt real and it isnt a special arcane ritual that binds people to it, law is fake its made up post hoc justifications for whatever those in power want to do

the supreme court are the high priests of the american religious document (the constitution) and their interpretation is based purely on their political motivations

i do not like liberals

I'll take the bait. How do those in power benefit from guns being distributed widely amongst the population? Seems like the opposite of what you'd want to do to consolidate power.

oranges wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:27 pm hey why don't you guys move to a common law system instead.

Farquaar wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 10:42 am

oranges wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:27 pm hey why don't you guys move to a common law system instead.

What did he mean by this

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:18 am

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:42 pm law isnt real and it isnt a special arcane ritual that binds people to it, law is fake its made up post hoc justifications for whatever those in power want to do

the supreme court are the high priests of the american religious document (the constitution) and their interpretation is based purely on their political motivations

i do not like liberals

I'll take the bait. How do those in power benefit from guns being distributed widely amongst the population? Seems like the opposite of what you'd want to do to consolidate power.

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:14 am

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:18 am

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:42 pm law isnt real and it isnt a special arcane ritual that binds people to it, law is fake its made up post hoc justifications for whatever those in power want to do

the supreme court are the high priests of the american religious document (the constitution) and their interpretation is based purely on their political motivations

i do not like liberals

I'll take the bait. How do those in power benefit from guns being distributed widely amongst the population? Seems like the opposite of what you'd want to do to consolidate power.

100 million disorganized citizens with guns are literally zero danger whatsoever to the most powerful military in the world

The right has always benefitted from armed militias roving around terrorizing minorities like the KKK historically or the Proud Boys/Patriot Prayer/Other retarded christolarpers

The left has basically used guns politically effectively in America one single time, and it was the Black Panthers: guess when the only time the right wing supported gun control was

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:31 am

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:14 am

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:18 am

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:42 pm law isnt real and it isnt a special arcane ritual that binds people to it, law is fake its made up post hoc justifications for whatever those in power want to do

the supreme court are the high priests of the american religious document (the constitution) and their interpretation is based purely on their political motivations

i do not like liberals

I'll take the bait. How do those in power benefit from guns being distributed widely amongst the population? Seems like the opposite of what you'd want to do to consolidate power.

100 million disorganized citizens with guns are literally zero danger whatsoever to the most powerful military in the world

The right has always benefitted from armed militias roving around terrorizing minorities like the KKK historically or the Proud Boys/Patriot Prayer/Other retarded christolarpers

The left has basically used guns politically effectively in America one single time, and it was the Black Panthers: guess when the only time the right wing supported gun control was

However, the US military loses to virtually every insurgency type force it fights against.

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:31 am

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:14 am

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:18 am

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 9:42 pm law isnt real and it isnt a special arcane ritual that binds people to it, law is fake its made up post hoc justifications for whatever those in power want to do

the supreme court are the high priests of the american religious document (the constitution) and their interpretation is based purely on their political motivations

i do not like liberals

I'll take the bait. How do those in power benefit from guns being distributed widely amongst the population? Seems like the opposite of what you'd want to do to consolidate power.

100 million disorganized citizens with guns are literally zero danger whatsoever to the most powerful military in the world

The right has always benefitted from armed militias roving around terrorizing minorities like the KKK historically or the Proud Boys/Patriot Prayer/Other retarded christolarpers

The left has basically used guns politically effectively in America one single time, and it was the Black Panthers: guess when the only time the right wing supported gun control was

However, the US military loses to virtually every insurgency type force it fights against.

Stickymayhem wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 11:58 am
If you want to define losing in some hyper specific way, sure, but they fuck shit up, kill millions and there's no hope for a functional government existing that the US doesn't want in place.

Insurgencies are successful only when the local population has close ties to the insurgents, and American towns have far less social cohesion than an afghanistan village. Most of that insurgent style of social cohesion comes from the right wing, again like the Proud Boys, who will simp for a fascist government every time.

The ones who are organized, and like and use weapons, support the government. The Liberal masses are terrified of guns, and the left wing struggles to organize effective gun ownership and has done so ever since the Black Panthers due to infighting and lack of support from the liberal establishment. Conservative money is always happy to fund fascist groups (see the close ties between republicans and the Jan 6 rioters) but liberals will NEVER support the extremes on their side, so they always lose.

Capsandi wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 12:38 pm Is this the 2hu thread? I'd like to ask what the hell a 2hu is.