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Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:57 am Some monster closed my ban appeal peanut.

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:35 pm

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:57 am Some monster closed my ban appeal peanut.

It's hard to top that you said more during your ban appeal than you did during your entire in game career but the peanut should have stayed open regardless.

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:58 am

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:35 pm

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:57 am Some monster closed my ban appeal peanut.

It's hard to top that you said more during your ban appeal than you did during your entire in game career but the peanut should have stayed open regardless.

When the ban issuing admin has already had two of his actions against you overturned on appeal, admits to being biased against you, and his theory of the ban was "it was an evil plot by you to murder innocents" there is a reason to go into detail about all the many ways the ban is bullshit.

Especially because despite that AwkwardStereo still managed to fuck the whole thing up by failing to understand how SEC works on tramstation.

The best part is that after the admins gave the whole big "I'm an admin, of course I know how SEC works!" speech the headmin decided the ban would stick because of course the mime(who was Lucy Cicero) must've made the same mistake they did, and of course it was a reasonable and easy to make mistake, because the alternative is climbing down and admitting they got the facts wrong.

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:58 am

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:35 pm

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:57 am Some monster closed my ban appeal peanut.

It's hard to top that you said more during your ban appeal than you did during your entire in game career but the peanut should have stayed open regardless.

When the ban issuing admin has already had two of his actions against you overturned on appeal, admits to being biased against you, and his theory of the ban was "it was an evil plot by you to murder innocents" there is a reason to go into detail about all the many ways the ban is bullshit.

Especially because despite that AwkwardStereo still managed to fuck the whole thing up by failing to understand how SEC works on tramstation.

The best part is that after the admins gave the whole big "I'm an admin, of course I know how SEC works!" speech the headmin decided the ban would stick because of course the mime(who was Lucy Cicero) must've made the same mistake they did, and of course it was a reasonable and easy to make mistake, because the alternative is climbing down and admitting they got the facts wrong.

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:58 am

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:35 pm

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:57 am Some monster closed my ban appeal peanut.

It's hard to top that you said more during your ban appeal than you did during your entire in game career but the peanut should have stayed open regardless.

When the ban issuing admin has already had two of his actions against you overturned on appeal, admits to being biased against you, and his theory of the ban was "it was an evil plot by you to murder innocents" there is a reason to go into detail about all the many ways the ban is bullshit.

Especially because despite that AwkwardStereo still managed to fuck the whole thing up by failing to understand how SEC works on tramstation.

The best part is that after the admins gave the whole big "I'm an admin, of course I know how SEC works!" speech the headmin decided the ban would stick because of course the mime(who was Lucy Cicero) must've made the same mistake they did, and of course it was a reasonable and easy to make mistake, because the alternative is climbing down and admitting they got the facts wrong.

Nabski wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:03 pm They deserve to have a Player Feedback sub forum the way Admin Feedback is a thing.

Once you enter that daunted realm, you will see your thread locked only on redemption or exile.

chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:21 pm

Nabski wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:03 pm They deserve to have a Player Feedback sub forum the way Admin Feedback is a thing.

Once you enter that daunted realm, you will see your thread locked only on redemption or exile.

When you become an admin does your player feedback get migrated to your admin feedback?

NoxVS wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:45 am not execute the mime

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:10 pm I understand those words individually but that sentence makes no sense.

NoxVS wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:45 ammy guy, all you had to do was not execute the mime just because someone tried to grab them while you were taking them to the brig

NoxVS wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:42 pm add all of these concepts together to one sentence and you have:

NoxVS wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 6:45 ammy guy, all you had to do was not execute the mime just because someone tried to grab them while you were taking them to the brig

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:55 pm Good morning sirs, this is now the designated zyb peanut

Archie700 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:27 am The ban was because you killed the mime for being pulled from brig by a simple mob after they nonharmfully tided in brig.

wubli wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:14 am stay gone until you learn that this is a multiplayer game and not your ego stroking material

wubli wrote: ↑
- if you want to write smut of someone's character, it's in good faith to ask them first. sexual stuff can be really uncomfortable to some people, and even if you aren't emotionally attached to your character, the fact that someone who you've played with decided they wanted to write about your character getting railed and didn't even dare to ask you if it was okay, is really weird, creepy, and disrespectful.
- it's more of an attitude issue. you saw someone playing and said "i am going to write smut about them". why would you do that? because you're horny for them? because you're pissed off at them? because it's funny - for yourself, somehow? is it so hard to consider how the other person would feel about it? must we truly be simply hostile with everyone we meet and disregard their feelings every single time just because it's the internet? what is your goal by writing smut about someone's character when they potentially don't want it?
- would you say the same if this was a DM staging a sexual abuse scene for one of the player's characters? do you really not see how that could be uncomfortable for the player?
- i've had nsfw art of my character drawn by someone. it's just nudity and not really porn, but it was nice of the person to ask me. i don't have a problem with sexual content itself, it's just basic decency to ask first. clarifying this so you don't think i am simply a prude who hates sex or having their character sexualized in any way
- no one can really stop you from jerking off to characters or even writing smut or drawing someone's static with massive tiddies, but it's really not hard to not post it online. like it or not, your character is something *you* control and if some weirdo writes about it getting fucked and posts it online, they probably want a reaction out of you. if you can ahelp someone for being weird to you IC, there is no reason why you would be able to write about it and post it.

stop trying to convince yourself that this is other people's faults for "being too attached to their ocs" and please try to understand that this is a massive boundaries issue and it's honestly impressive it has gone for this long when it's as easy as "please ask me before writing about my character taking twelve inches of dick"

technokek wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:25 am

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:55 pm Good morning sirs, this is now the designated zyb peanut

It's not shut up

Nabski wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:03 pm They deserve to have a Player Feedback sub forum the way Admin Feedback is a thing.

Mothblocks wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:07 am i'm surprised nabski of all people is saying that because i figured he was old enough to remember ban requests, which was basically that

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:06 am Reverse Order Ranked List of People To Take Advice From on What Sort Of Stroking Is Appropriate on TGStation:
1) Wubli

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:06 am But the mime wasn't resisting permanent imprisonment. Mime was only threatened(after walking down to the permabrig and pointing at the entrance) with being put into the permabrig. Which is where temporary sentences get served on tramstation.

sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:26 pm

Zybwivcz wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:06 am But the mime wasn't resisting permanent imprisonment. Mime was only threatened(after walking down to the permabrig and pointing at the entrance) with being put into the permabrig. Which is where temporary sentences get served on tramstation.

Zyb, my beloved fellow security player. There is a disagreement between you and the headmin about this ban. You believe it was done in error. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter, you are banned. So the only thing to do now is to reflect. Why did this happen to you specifically? Perma sec bans made in error are awfully rare, aren't they?

If you truly turned inward and reflected you would come to the conclusion that it was your overall playstyle that got you banned, not killing a greytiding mime in the brig. That is what you needed to change. Tackling these individual cases is a waste of time because at the end of the day, they are just manifestations of the underlying issue:

You need to focus more on having-a-good-time-with-others, and less on removing antagonists from the station wordlessly. It's really that simple. Security's job often involves opposing antagonists, to be sure. But your job as a player of SS13, is to try to make the game more fun. When others are having more fun you will suddenly find that you, too, are having more fun.

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:45 am My brother in Christ being an NPC that random names, says only 15 things every round and playing exclusively to baton antags isn’t robust, it’s psychotic

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 10:41 am

technokek wrote: ↑Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:25 am

dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:55 pm Good morning sirs, this is now the designated zyb peanut

It's not shut up

That's where you're wrong