The official I HATE BILEWORMS thread

[Epicgamer545]

I wanted to make this to see if anyone had the same problem as me

I am (of course) a shaft miner main when I don't roll AI. It WAS a chill job full of defeating simple and cleverly designed creatures, like the Brimdemon. It's a pretty good idea in general, and I have respect for the beast a bit. It can make you go into challenging situations and it has blundered my mining runs a lot. Overall, nothing was outright annoying, everything was balanced, and most of the time, it was pretty okay.

All was at peace,
until...



these THINGS arrived

don't get me started on why these things are super annoying as hell. they somehow have damage similar to a MEGAFAUNA and destroyed the mining base every time. Not only that, but they won't stop aggroing on you and annoyingly keep spawning in on you. It's a pain in the ass, and not in a clever way. Even worse, when they crit you, they just straight up eat you so someone is going to have to kill it to get to your body. It's super annoying.
I just wish they were nerfed or something like that, they don't fit the sort of "annoying but not annoying style" that lavaland has. Bileworms are not supposed to be megafauna, they are supposed to be a minion.

I died to this thing tons of times and I'm pretty sure OOC is just annoyed of them ever since

[san7890]

I speak about more of these here: viewtopic.php?t=32503&view=unread#unread

[Pandarsenic]

I might run a few tests with them at the Thunderdome or spawn myself in for fights at LavaLand after the shuttle leaves for CentCom to test why people hate them so much firsthand, but they've definitely looked... annoying... when I've spectated miners. And that's with ghost vision letting me see the health bar and see in the dark.

[Epicgamer545]

I speak about more of these here: viewtopic.php?t=32503&view=unread#unread

I should have searched for a thread like this before making one, my bad

[san7890]

I speak about more of these here: viewtopic.php?t=32503&view=unread#unread

I should have searched for a thread like this before making one, my bad

That's okay!

[Epicgamer545]

also saying "get good" for bileworms just makes me curl up into a ball and cry for like 10 minutes, they are annoying. Even if you choke yourself, they are heavily overpowered and their damage is wayyyy too off the scale. If ANYTHING could be added to nerf this damn thing then I can finally be at peace. Seeing the mining base ultimately destroyed by a gang of bileworms, being reduced to broken glass, and metal, is getting boring as hell.

it's not that its a skill issue, every miner is annoyed about it. Spend some time with it in lavaland. and hear about how dchat is annoyed as hell with it, and you will get what I mean.

[TheSmallBlue]

I tried to fight a goliath with a fellow miner of mine, no biggie. a bileworm shows up. With 3 of its shots it downs my partner who was too busy fighting the goliath to move out of the way, I move them out of the goliath's direct way, but I get stuck on one of their spiky things. No biggie, I still have plenty of health, I'll just scatter away. Bileworm shows up IN THE TILE IM STANDING, doing a constant amount of damage on my still body until I die. Fuck bileworms

[Imitates-The-Lizards]

My biggest issue with them is that they always fuck up the mining base. If their projectile was just changed to not do any structural damage, that would fix 95% of their issues to me.

[Turbonerd]

It's a completely alien world. It kinda makes sense that there should be some things people should just be scared of. I'm not sure why there is an expectation that people should be able to slay everything with ease. It's not a fantasy game.

I do think that San's idea of making them aggressive based on how destructive you are is an interesting idea. It lets people mine more peacefully if they are chill, but punishes people that are bullying a bunch of simplemobs or having too much fun with plasmacutters.

[Kendrickorium]

Even if you choke yourself

[kieth4]

Lavaland should be difficult really, it's farm npcs for free loot. It should absolutely be difficult and when something that proves to be a 1% challenge comes along we shouldn't scream to nerf it. I've got 150hrs on mining or something, so it's not like I'm a super HAHA FUCK MINERS player either, I just think there should be a difficulty. Their attack pattern isn't the most hard to learn either man, it comes off as a huge skill issue.

[Imitates-The-Lizards]

Lavaland should be difficult really, it's farm npcs for free loot. It should absolutely be difficult and when something that proves to be a 1% challenge comes along we shouldn't scream to nerf it. I've got 150hrs on mining or something, so it's not like I'm a super HAHA FUCK MINERS player either, I just think there should be a difficulty. Their attack pattern isn't the most hard to learn either man, it comes off as a huge skill issue.

Ok but can we remove it's ability to damage structures?

[MMMiracles]

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[kieth4]

Lavaland should be difficult really, it's farm npcs for free loot. It should absolutely be difficult and when something that proves to be a 1% challenge comes along we shouldn't scream to nerf it. I've got 150hrs on mining or something, so it's not like I'm a super HAHA FUCK MINERS player either, I just think there should be a difficulty. Their attack pattern isn't the most hard to learn either man, it comes off as a huge skill issue.

Ok but can we remove it's ability to damage structures?

Others can push shit around and break it too, just don't lead it to the lavaland base???

[Capsandi]

icewatchers are 1000% more bs than the worms

[Epicgamer545]

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I shitted myself

[Epicgamer545]

Lavaland should be difficult really, it's farm npcs for free loot. It should absolutely be difficult and when something that proves to be a 1% challenge comes along we shouldn't scream to nerf it. I've got 150hrs on mining or something, so it's not like I'm a super HAHA FUCK MINERS player either, I just think there should be a difficulty. Their attack pattern isn't the most hard to learn either man, it comes off as a huge skill issue.

Ok but can we remove it's ability to damage structures?

Others can push shit around and break it too, just don't lead it to the lavaland base???

Honestly its pretty hard to NOT lead it to the base when they don't stop following or agroing on you. Sure, others can too, but bileworms always just teleport in and do constant damage to the base. I admit that there's some things in this game that I have a skill issue over, it's just that it's kind of ridiculous.

Even if you choke yourself

sorry for the bad word choice :(

icewatchers are 1000% more bs than the worms

I agree with this, but the watchers kind of have less damage than the bileworms. At least, if I remember correctly, they can be destroyed in a few hits and give a reward. The only reward bileworms have is the materials to make a horn.

[Striders13]

As miner main, I love both bileworms and ice watchers, since they actually provide some challenge. Ice watchers being aggressive and hard to escape and whelps giving you less tolerance for mistakes is why I love icebox mining.

[Boot]

I don't like them eating the body of the miner, that's a cool meme that the legion has seems weird to give it to something else.

[TheSmallBlue]

I don't actually think bileworms are that bad, the main problem I have is how common they are. Ice watchers are as annoying but they're way more bearable because they aren't EVERYWHERE. You can't walk for 30 seconds before 3 bileworms are on you.

[Epicgamer545]

Above. Maybe they should not be nerfed, but more rare. If their agro is altered a bit to deagro, then I could possibly live with it. It just need a few tweaks.

[EmpressMaia]

Bile worms are mini colossus. They have FULL ARMOUR PENETRATION, and do like 15 less damage than a colossus. All while never de aggroing.

[Not-Dorsidarf]

Sounds like fauna should probbably pick a selection from

- ultra aggro follows you forever
- super common
- teleports on top of you
- ranged attack
- Valueless to hunt deliberately
- High damage
- Body hider

Rather than taking the lot

[cocothegogo]

noob stay mad

[johnfulpwillard]

I fought bileworms and they were incredibly easy. The damage could be lowered but I also gotta ask how the hell are you managing to get hit several times by them

My biggest issue with them is that they always fuck up the mining base. If their projectile was just changed to not do any structural damage, that would fix 95% of their issues to me.

Sounds good to me