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tl;dr: players vote to restart round, yes wins. admin was away so it doesn't go through, admin comes back and restarts server. ling malds in admin complaints

bro what the round literally would have restarted instantly if the vote went through, which it did, the admin just made it do what it was supposed to do since they have to approve it

if the restart vote succeeded at 8-7 that means there were 15 players online

which means you released an ARDS virus on lowpop

the admins are obligated to dunk on you at that point, what'd you expect

Maybe just dont be cringe and do something fun and enjoyable instead of a boring purge of the station.

Most pointless non-joke complaint of the year so far.

ban him for making this complaint

There were 29 people logged that round so he literally halfed the server population with his bone

Timonk wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:23 am There were 29 people logged that round so he literally halfed the server population with his bone

it's almost like virology isn't particularly fun to interact with for the people who aren't virologists.

should be banned for being a bugspreader

local player forgets that antag is a privilege, not a right

Shit happens and the admin apologized. Seems fine. But then

Your inability to do the standards of your job as an admin should not affect my antag round.

Big I WANT TO TALK TO YOUR MANGER energy here

I love democracy

This is the modern age version of "waiter, there is HAIR in my soup!!!"
God bless.


With futuristic regards
-BONERMASTER

Alright, upon further contemplation I decided to just concede my initial complaint. Sure, releasing an ARDS virus is extremely gross considering the pop of the station and I accept that. Come at me with whatever criticism you have, I just want to say this.

How will this not lead into a slippery slope of deciding when enough is enough? Is virology overdue for a nerf or do we need better rulings for lowpop murderbone for the sake of players? Since this is a peanut post (yeah, im posting in my own peanut but hear me out), I want to say that perhaps changeling AND virology needs more weight when it comes to round threat with dynamic. I love SS13 and the autistic shenanigans that ensue considering its literally DND but in space. If I were in Nianjiilicals shoes, I would've had the restart vote go through as well since I am a Forever DM, however there has to be accountability when it comes to accidentally pressing a button versus intentionally pressing one.

I'm going to completely ignore what you say here and at the end of the complaint and just go

imagine being this butthurt that you didn't get to finish killing the last two other online players

Erik489 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:04 am How will this not lead into a slippery slope of deciding when enough is enough? Is virology overdue for a nerf or do we need better rulings for lowpop murderbone for the sake of players?
[...]however there has to be accountability when it comes to accidentally pressing a button versus intentionally pressing one.

The murderbone rule did not play a role in this, there is no reason to bring it up. The players made a restart vote and it succeeded, Nian hit the restart button. There is virtually no accountability to be sought here, for once.
You have to understand, that your antag status is not sacred or even protected by the server-rules, so even if the server just crashed with no fault of your own, there would not be any compensation for it. Taking a piss at Nian for, by all available accounts, doing what they were supposed to do, is you barking up the completely wrong tree.
I recommend, that you should make these kinds of complaints as an OOC comment and leave it at that. Admin complaints are there for actual misconduct of admins, not retelling a personal inconvenience.


With diplomatic regards
-BONERMASTER

Erik489 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:04 am however there has to be accountability when it comes to accidentally pressing a button versus intentionally pressing one.

What do you want, man? Demotion? A mark on an admin's permanent record?

Recruiting and retaining admins is a chore for servers as it is, I don't think it needs to be worse.

Erik489 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:04 am If I were in Nianjiilicals shoes, I would've had the restart vote go through as well since I am a Forever DM, however there has to be accountability when it comes to accidentally pressing a button versus intentionally pressing one.

Bro the literal entire difference between the button he pressed versus the button he meant to press is that one of them gives you a round-end popup and the other does not. Untwist your panties and get over yourself. This wasn't even admin feedback-worthy and you know it, you horrid saltmine.

Erik489 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:04 am Salt

Have you tried being a more interesting antagonist so people don't find your antagonism burdensome and obnoxious instead of exciting and fun?

Local man is un-believably cringe, blames admin, admin APOLOGIZES.
I hate this timeline

TheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:27 pm I hate this timeline admins

Fixed it for you.

TheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 11:27 pm Local man is un-believably cringe, blames admin, admin APOLOGIZES.
I hate this timeline

This is the timeline we live in since the admins don't actually get to decide on the rules they agree to anymore. Assholes are going to be catered to because if they don't then they risk their boss showing up and catering to them for them and chastising them for it.

Ziiro wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:49 pm

Erik489 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:04 am however there has to be accountability when it comes to accidentally pressing a button versus intentionally pressing one.

What do you want, man? Demotion? A mark on an admin's permanent record?

Recruiting and retaining admins is a chore for servers as it is, I don't think it needs to be worse.

Brand the admin with a hot iron in the form of the ckey. This is the only option.

for what its worth i dont really blame him for being annoyed

I blame him for being annoying

Admincomplaint rating: 2/10

I was in this round and I remember it ended with a miner who was on lavaland all round, the changeling, 2 silicon, and the captain who was diseased and about to die, everyone else was sitting as a ghost watching or playing a ghost role. The miner was also pissed off that their tendril rushing was interrupted by a server restart.

Erik489 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 10:04 am Alright, upon further contemplation I decided to just concede my initial complaint. Sure, releasing an ARDS virus is extremely gross considering the pop of the station and I accept that. Come at me with whatever criticism you have, I just want to say this.

How will this not lead into a slippery slope of deciding when enough is enough? Is virology overdue for a nerf or do we need better rulings for lowpop murderbone for the sake of players? Since this is a peanut post (yeah, im posting in my own peanut but hear me out), I want to say that perhaps changeling AND virology needs more weight when it comes to round threat with dynamic. I love SS13 and the autistic shenanigans that ensue considering its literally DND but in space. If I were in Nianjiilicals shoes, I would've had the restart vote go through as well since I am a Forever DM, however there has to be accountability when it comes to accidentally pressing a button versus intentionally pressing one.

Glad you decide to contemplate it after raking the admin over the coals for literally just letting the round restart as it was intended to. And after getting an (undeserved I should add) apology!!

And I think you are still completely failing to understand what a restart vote is, remarkably, after it being described several times. The players make a restart vote, not the admins. When enough players vote for it, it automatically ends the round. There is not a shuttle. There is no fuckin ERT. There doesn't even need to be an admin on. It simply freezes your screen and restarts automatically.

This is what was going to happen, but since the admin was AFK, it didn't. They saw this should have went through and pushed this player-decided mechanic through. And no they didn't "fail their job" by missing this initially, insanely unhinged to say this. They work for free, they're not going to sit there and watch a 10pop round tick through its 3 hour duration, you should be thankful any admin was on at all on lowpop. But they got what they deserved I guess, a complaint from a ling that had already arguably broken rules by lowpop murderboning!

The only mistake the admin made was apologizing to you.

My critique is over. You asked for it...

CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:29 pm I'm going to completely ignore what you say here and at the end of the complaint and just go

imagine being this butthurt that you didn't get to finish killing the last two other online players

check em

quads of truuuuuuuuth

I did ask for it, and an apology from me is in order instead.

Nianjiilical, you didn't need to apologize. I cut into everyone's already limited playtime outside of work/daily life and attempted to force them into one of my traitor rounds thinking I was the star of the show. I got what I wanted and tried to take more selfishly. As mentioned before, it wasn't fair to the other players to sit back and watch my escapade of another virology murderbone while having arguably one of the most powerful antags to have on station to toy with. The complaint I launched was a salt-induced waste of time and effort. The fact you apologized speaks volumes of how patient you are. After all, it is still a game with other players enjoying it. I could've came up with a better gimmick given my time on the server, and this is on me. I am sorry you had to deal with my entitlement, you only did what you thought was best for everyone and I did not listen to it. You are a fantastic admin, I need to be a better player.

MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:50 am

CMDR_Gungnir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:29 pm I'm going to completely ignore what you say here and at the end of the complaint and just go

imagine being this butthurt that you didn't get to finish killing the last two other online players

check em

Literally did not even notice until you pointed it out.

I feel like it's a worthy use of quads.

Virology roll, also started as a changeling. I get to work on my ARDS virus which is maxed out and kills within 2 minutes of infection.

Erik489 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 05, 2022 1:40 pm I did ask for it, and an apology from me is in order instead.

Nianjiilical, you didn't need to apologize. I cut into everyone's already limited playtime outside of work/daily life and attempted to force them into one of my traitor rounds thinking I was the star of the show. I got what I wanted and tried to take more selfishly. As mentioned before, it wasn't fair to the other players to sit back and watch my escapade of another virology murderbone while having arguably one of the most powerful antags to have on station to toy with. The complaint I launched was a salt-induced waste of time and effort. The fact you apologized speaks volumes of how patient you are. After all, it is still a game with other players enjoying it. I could've came up with a better gimmick given my time on the server, and this is on me. I am sorry you had to deal with my entitlement, you only did what you thought was best for everyone and I did not listen to it. You are a fantastic admin, I need to be a better player.

i appreciate the sentiment but also dont worry about it, this is like the third or fourth time someone's opened a complaint at me only to take it back once theyd had a bit of time to mull over it/heard my response

despite what a lot of people in the community say its not that big of a deal imo

whats up with lowpop bone recently, I am to blame partially for not reporting it as it happens but it seems like its becoming much more common.

Since I started playing I have been in 1 round where at least 1 antag isnt leveling the place (minus the space dragon but whatever), and that was on manuel where the bone rules are tighter and it was 20+.

I am still amazed that some man was able to purchase ROMEROL with MAX TWELVE INDIVIDUALS CONNECTED.

Cobby wrote: ↑Thu Oct 06, 2022 1:24 am whats up with lowpop bone recently, I am to blame partially for not reporting it as it happens but it seems like its becoming much more common.

Since I started playing I have been in 1 round where at least 1 antag isnt leveling the place (minus the space dragon but whatever), and that was on manuel where the bone rules are tighter and it was 20+.

I am still amazed that some man was able to purchase ROMEROL with MAX TWELVE INDIVIDUALS CONNECTED.

you dont buy romerol anymore its just a reward for killing every pet on station and stealing every item