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“I am sorry” vs “3 day ban for bomb on shuttle 30 seconds before round ends isn’t fair”

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:10 pm
by Epicgamer545
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You don’t know how easy it would be if you just said sorry. Sure, it didn’t get you anywhere, and saying sorry last minute did not help you in the end, but if you took some more time explaining why you should be unbanned, maybe you would have appealed a 3 day ban.

Also, why not just wait for the three days to end? Why not just do something else for a while? Sometimes, I don’t understand why everyone goes this strategy every single time.

Re: “I am sorry” vs “3 day ban for bomb on shuttle 30 seconds before round ends isn’t fair”

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 7:50 pm
by RedBaronFlyer
I've never understood why it's so hard for people to be like "You know what, I fucked up, I am sorry" in an ahelp. I've gotten ahelped three times in total (once on goon, twice on TG) and just being civil during the ahelp goes a long way towards reducing or outright eliminating any sort of punishment you may receive outside of a finger wag and maybe a note if it was deemed noteworthy enough.

Admins boinking you are mostly just asking you to stop doing whatever you are doing, trying to get your side of the story if someone ahelped you/they observed you doing something potentially rulebreaking, or to tell you not do whatever you did in the future.

Also the argument of "it was just 30 seconds left before round end" is dumb. Although not a rulebreak, it falls under eorg prep and eorg prep is mega ultra cringe.

Re: “I am sorry” vs “3 day ban for bomb on shuttle 30 seconds before round ends isn’t fair”

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:06 pm
by Turbonerd
I hope his ban gets extended for that awful appeal.

Re: “I am sorry” vs “3 day ban for bomb on shuttle 30 seconds before round ends isn’t fair”

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:08 pm
by Timberpoes
Admins don't want to ban you. We don't want to deal with the inevitable appeal when you're a bit of a Turd Ferguson and talk your way out of a verbal warning or note and into a ban.

We just want you to pretend like you're listening to us, pretend like you accept what we're saying and pretend like you won't go back and break the rules again 2 minutes after we close out the ticket.

That illusion is the grease that keeps the tgstation cogs all turning.

Re: “I am sorry” vs “3 day ban for bomb on shuttle 30 seconds before round ends isn’t fair”

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:23 pm
by Scriptis
the goal of administration is remediation, not removal
Spoiler:
delete chemistry

Re: “I am sorry” vs “3 day ban for bomb on shuttle 30 seconds before round ends isn’t fair”

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:31 pm
by Epicgamer545
Scriptis wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:23 pm
Spoiler:
delete chemistry
Spoiler:
delete ph

Re: “I am sorry” vs “3 day ban for bomb on shuttle 30 seconds before round ends isn’t fair”

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:20 am
by BeeSting12
This isn't the same guy who made a digg post complaining about his ban, is it?

Re: “I am sorry” vs “3 day ban for bomb on shuttle 30 seconds before round ends isn’t fair”

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:13 am
by Imaginos
BeeSting12 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:20 am This isn't the same guy who made a digg post complaining about his ban, is it?
No.

Re: “I am sorry” vs “3 day ban for bomb on shuttle 30 seconds before round ends isn’t fair”

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:16 am
by BeeSting12
Imaginos wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:13 am
BeeSting12 wrote: Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:20 am This isn't the same guy who made a digg post complaining about his ban, is it?
No.
Ah so the stupidity is more widespread than just one person. Also, he really couldn't just take the L and sit out from tgstation's servers for 3 days. Like not even all of ss13 just us lol

Re: “I am sorry” vs “3 day ban for bomb on shuttle 30 seconds before round ends isn’t fair”

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:00 pm
by Vekter
Timberpoes wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2022 10:08 pm Admins don't want to ban you. We don't want to deal with the inevitable appeal when you're a bit of a Turd Ferguson and talk your way out of a verbal warning or note and into a ban.

We just want you to pretend like you're listening to us, pretend like you accept what we're saying and pretend like you won't go back and break the rules again 2 minutes after we close out the ticket.

That illusion is the grease that keeps the tgstation cogs all turning.
This holy fucking shit thiiiiiiiiiiis please god damn it's not hard

If you did something fucking stupid and you know it was fucking stupid just apologize for it and nine times out of ten if your history isn't awful we'll go "okay sure, don't do it again" and lift the ban, or hell, we might not even ban you if it's an understandable mistake

I don't want to ban some dude from playing the game because he had poor judgement once in the last few months, I just want you to not do stupid bullshit and act like you're the victim when you get slapped for it