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Over the past week, I have come to understand that many posters are using the word "take" and "idea" interchangeably. Even I, the ever-knowledgeable Farquaar, have likely done so on at least one occasion. Thus, it behooves us to ask: what is the difference between an idea/suggestion and a take? I posit that a take is inherently reactive, while suggestions are inherently proactive. Allow me to make my case:

Dictionary Definitions: It appears that "take" is inherently reactive as it is restricted to a personal point of view on extant subject matter, typically something that has recently changed. An idea or suggestion, on the other hand, may comprise purposive suggestions or directions.

If we abide by this dichotomy, then most "takes" presented over the past week are not "takes", but rather "suggestions". Allow me to construct some examples:

Poster A wrote: Removing cloning was a mistake

This is an prima facie take. It is an mere opinion- a reaction to something that happened- a change in game mechanics.

Poster B wrote: Stun batons should permanently break after ten uses.

This is an idea. A suggestion. A formulation of a plan of action for the game designers that has never been tried.

Poster C wrote: We should readd Clock Cult to the game. It was cool.

A take. It reacts to the removal of Clock Cult, something which happened in the past.

Poster D wrote: We should remove Blood Cult from the game. It sucks.

Also a take. Recency bias is not determinative with respect to the dichotomy.

Poster E wrote: Ian should have laser eyes.

An archetypical suggestion. Unless Ian had laser eyes in the past, or there were serious discussions regarding the addition of corgi laser eyes, there is nothing being reacted to.

Discuss.

Maybe the other threads could get deleted so we can restart this.

If we're just going off the title of the thread then yes you're right, people shouldn't be posting suggestions.
But in the OP easy2see wrote:

and what mechanics in this game should be like

I'm not great with English but surely this implies they're asking for suggestions?

Mice World wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:52 am If we're just going off the title of the thread then yes you're right, people shouldn't be posting suggestions.
But in the OP easy2see wrote:

and what mechanics in this game should be like

I'm not great with English but surely this implies they're asking for suggestions?

Not specifically. Saying that Ian should have laser eyes is a suggestion. However it also can be a take to say that “this game mechanic should be more common/this game mechanic should be more used” is a take. So you can make a take on a game feature without doing a suggestion.

My take is that suggestions are opinions on what should be, and therefore all suggestions are takes, but not all takes are suggestions.

my take is that this thread is dumb and intellectually faux

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:23 pm my take is that this thread is dumb and intellectually faux

You're dumb and intellectually faux

Farquaar wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:38 pm

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:23 pm my take is that this thread is dumb and intellectually faux

You're dumb and intellectually faux