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Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:30 am
by The Wrench
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As much as I admire Rave, this forum ban is rather bullshit.

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:39 am
by Armhulen
this wouldn't be happening if he won the toolbox tournament

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:42 am
by CitrusGender
Armhulen wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:39 am this wouldn't be happening if he won the toolbox tournament
SO FUCKING TRUE

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:44 am
by Archie700

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:54 am
by The Wrench
Damn, My thread name is better though

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:57 am
by Kendrickorium
Adam Klein wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 2:54 am Damn, My thread name is better though
its not

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:05 am
by Qbmax32
owned

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 4:07 am
by Epicgamer545
BE BANISHED, DUPLICATE

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:16 am
by Rohen_Tahir
This title sucks

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:06 pm
by CPTANT
Rave just gave him 2 warnings for the same thing because he wanted him gone, which is complete bullshit.

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:07 pm
by datorangebottle
CPTANT wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:06 pm Rave just gave him 2 warnings for the same thing because he wanted him gone, which is complete bullshit.
this.
Also to everyone slamming san for saying he's biased: at least he came out and straight-up admitted his bias. All humans are flawed in some way. I'd prefer this to a headmin who hides their bias behind a bunch of bullshit reasoning that they came up with to justify a ban that shouldn't exist.
I wanted to post something to this effect but somebody locked the other thread.

Also, Sinful's shots back at the biased headministration for their bullcrap are going in my signature so I don't forget.
Edit:
Also also, imagine being so incredibly biased against someone that you tell future headmins to carefully consider future appeals wink wink nudge nudge never unban this guy this isn't meant to be a pseudo-blacklist, then locking the thread so nobody can tell you off for saying that.

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:09 am
by Archie700
datorangebottle wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:07 pm
CPTANT wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 3:06 pm Rave just gave him 2 warnings for the same thing because he wanted him gone, which is complete bullshit.
this.
Also to everyone slamming san for saying he's biased: at least he came out and straight-up admitted his bias. All humans are flawed in some way. I'd prefer this to a headmin who hides their bias behind a bunch of bullshit reasoning that they came up with to justify a ban that shouldn't exist.
I wanted to post something to this effect but somebody locked the other thread.

Also, Sinful's shots back at the biased headministration for their bullcrap are going in my signature so I don't forget.
Edit:
Also also, imagine being so incredibly biased against someone that you tell future headmins to carefully consider future appeals wink wink nudge nudge never unban this guy this isn't meant to be a pseudo-blacklist, then locking the thread so nobody can tell you off for saying that.
Kendrickorium locked the peanut thread themselves, not Rave.

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:49 am
by datorangebottle
I was referring to the appeal thread itself.

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:14 am
by Archie700
The unfortunate truth is that the only good arguments are that some of the warnings are flimsy (ERP filter warning) and that none of the forum or discord admins tried to punish him earlier with warnings and bans if his behaviour was that toxic.

There's nothing defending his behaviour. Even the devil's advocate argument won't fly.

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:17 am
by Epicgamer545
The ban was sort of for good faith. Ever since Sinful has been banished the player club has been clean.

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:37 am
by Capsandi
Was it not foretold in the holy text of Thinking Cap? In IamgoofballGeneral 4:12, when the prophet Toronto88 warned of this day?
Toronto88 wrote: ...things will progress to a point where people with anime women in their avatar are overstepping their boundaries at their leisure to use administrative powers to punish people who they don't like...
Is it not he who decried the cardinal sin of Empty Posting?

Now return to the present! Rave's robotic responses are not a symptom of his inability to write with emotion or authority. They are a symptom of writing only to win a war of linguistic attrition. This is the textbook empty post! To do so is a symptom of writing not with a paucity of emotion but with all too much. The only administratively whole posts are from san and timberproes. San laments at his own short comings, seeing them as much more than anything he could hope to mount, a truly human conflict. He does this as Timber preserves the sanctity not only of the appeal but that of the peanut by guarding the margin between them both.
No ban placed or held for personal bias can ever be just.
Go. Read the thinking cap. Realize where you are!
So much of what we would like to think is true is optimistic assumption! Perma bans? Infallible evasion detection? Don't you see what this place is? No man can leave here without his own permission. A perma ban is not placed to ban those who lurk behind the screen, only their moniker! To perfectly evade without detection in part requires you to ask those who banned you how to unbuckle oneself from the arrivals shuttle, meet all the eyes who already know you again, ask meaningless questions about policy you already know and to speak disjointedly as you adapt to known norms and in-jokes. All those who arrive have already left.
This is why you read the thinking cap. Its to see who you're really talking to. Those who have lasted too long without donning a new title ban only to give themselves the illusion of time passing. Out with the old, in with the old acting new. Only in this context can we see it clearly. Rave's goal isn't to preserve the game. Rave's goal is a feeble attempt to preserve the "community culture". His Freudian slip in that "Newbie Cap" thread is all the confirmation we could ask for. Rave is, or at least has deluded himself into thinking this is his first account here at TG station. That he didn't join during the chaos of a website migration or even in the tide of mandalore. You can only leave when your pride tears through the forums, making yourself believe you are better for leaving, but you aren't, the only thing which can progress from such an act is the withering of your own comprehension of yourself. As terrible as the truth is, this is the best place to be in the post idealist hellscape of 2023.
TLDR
Hilariously shit ban, give MSO back his host vote.
To the rest of you, read the thinking cap.

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:37 am
by Archie700
Also Bonermaster did devil's advocate better and much more hilariously

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 3:07 pm
by CMDR_Gungnir
Capsandi wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:37 am Hilariously shit ban, give MSO back his host vote.
Hostvote was Spookuni, the only one of the three who wasn't in there talking about their personal biases. We did this to ourselves.

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:06 pm
by Misdoubtful
I guess sinful bliss always catches up to us in the end.

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:58 am
by Kendrickorium
the only thing anyone should consider carefully is who the fuck they vote for next headmin election

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2023 5:49 am
by datorangebottle
Kendrickorium wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:58 am the only thing anyone should consider carefully is who the fuck they vote for next headmin election

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:35 pm
by BONERMASTER
Archie700 wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:37 am Also Bonermaster did devil's advocate better and much more hilariously
I want to state for the record that I would NEVER advocate for the devil. All of my clients are 100% innocent and upstanding space-station citizens, and it is only (and exclusively) to you, fellow upstanding forumites and space-citizens, that I extend my services, so you don't have to stand alone against internet despotism and tyranny.

To suggest that the only clientel that I represent is the equivalent to the literal embodiment of sin itself is SO wrong, it is almost an insult!

I SHOULD sue you for $100 million on the grounds of defamation, civil conspiracy and threatening the safety of my well-being, but I WON'T, because I am still a nice lawyer (as defined through the context of this game and forum activites), just like all of the upstanding, perfectly reasonable and charitable clients that require my services, and of course all those that may require my services in the future.


With humble regards
-BONERMASTER & Associates


(DISCLAIMER: ANY AND ALL REFERENCES TO THE LAW ARE MADE FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY!
BONERMASTER & ASSOCIATES IS A WORK OF FICTION AND NOT A LAW FIRM, BONERMASTER IS NOT A LICENSED LAWYER AND WILL NOT GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE, PLEASE CONSULT A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL FOR YOUR LEGAL QUERIES!)




p.s.: sin you absolute gonk, you're supposed to represent the clients, not become one, dingus!

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:46 pm
by Omega_DarkPotato
BONERMASTER wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:35 pm
Archie700 wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:37 am Also Bonermaster did devil's advocate better and much more hilariously
I want to state for the record that I would NEVER advocate for the devil. All of my clients are 100% innocent and upstanding space-station citizens, and it is only (and exclusively) to you, fellow upstanding forumites and space-citizens, that I extend my services, so you don't have to stand alone against internet despotism and tyranny.

To suggest that the only clientel that I represent is the equivalent to the literal embodiment of sin itself is SO wrong, it is almost an insult!

I SHOULD sue you for $100 million on the grounds of defamation, civil conspiracy and threatening the safety of my well-being, but I WON'T, because I am still a nice lawyer (as defined through the context of this game and forum activites), just like all of the upstanding, perfectly reasonable and charitable clients that require my services, and of course all those that may require my services in the future.


With humble regards
-BONERMASTER & Associates


(DISCLAIMER: ANY AND ALL REFERENCES TO THE LAW ARE MADE FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY!
BONERMASTER & ASSOCIATES IS A WORK OF FICTION AND NOT A LAW FIRM, BONERMASTER IS NOT A LICENSED LAWYER AND WILL NOT GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE, PLEASE CONSULT A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL FOR YOUR LEGAL QUERIES!)




p.s.: sin you absolute gonk, you're supposed to represent the clients, not become one, dingus!
so what if hypothetically i was the devil and in legal trouble but VERY WEALTHY
could I depend on you to represent my case in a court of law

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:45 pm
by BONERMASTER
Omega_DarkPotato wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:46 pm so what if hypothetically i was the devil and in legal trouble but VERY WEALTHY
could I depend on you to represent my case in a court of law
Nice try, but the answer is: Absolutely NEVER!
There is no power on Earth and beyond that can buy out the principles of BONERMASTER & Associates.
Besides, it is not so hypothetical: Devils do exist, and they like to have Wisteria colored names in forum boards.


With hellish regards
-BONERMASTER

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:05 am
by Rohen_Tahir
Omega_DarkPotato wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:46 pm
BONERMASTER wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:35 pm
Archie700 wrote: Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:37 am Also Bonermaster did devil's advocate better and much more hilariously
I want to state for the record that I would NEVER advocate for the devil. All of my clients are 100% innocent and upstanding space-station citizens, and it is only (and exclusively) to you, fellow upstanding forumites and space-citizens, that I extend my services, so you don't have to stand alone against internet despotism and tyranny.

To suggest that the only clientel that I represent is the equivalent to the literal embodiment of sin itself is SO wrong, it is almost an insult!

I SHOULD sue you for $100 million on the grounds of defamation, civil conspiracy and threatening the safety of my well-being, but I WON'T, because I am still a nice lawyer (as defined through the context of this game and forum activites), just like all of the upstanding, perfectly reasonable and charitable clients that require my services, and of course all those that may require my services in the future.


With humble regards
-BONERMASTER & Associates


(DISCLAIMER: ANY AND ALL REFERENCES TO THE LAW ARE MADE FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY!
BONERMASTER & ASSOCIATES IS A WORK OF FICTION AND NOT A LAW FIRM, BONERMASTER IS NOT A LICENSED LAWYER AND WILL NOT GIVE YOU LEGAL ADVICE, PLEASE CONSULT A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL FOR YOUR LEGAL QUERIES!)




p.s.: sin you absolute gonk, you're supposed to represent the clients, not become one, dingus!
so what if hypothetically i was the devil and in legal trouble but VERY WEALTHY
could I depend on you to represent my case in a court of law
BONERMASTER wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:45 pm
Omega_DarkPotato wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:46 pm so what if hypothetically i was the devil and in legal trouble but VERY WEALTHY
could I depend on you to represent my case in a court of law
Nice try, but the answer is: Absolutely NEVER!
There is no power on Earth and beyond that can buy out the principles of BONERMASTER & Associates.
Besides, it is not so hypothetical: Devils do exist, and they like to have Wisteria colored names in forum boards.


With hellish regards
-BONERMASTER
How much for a contract with the Potato Devil?

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:46 pm
by Omega_DarkPotato
Rohen_Tahir wrote: Wed Jan 18, 2023 2:05 am How much for a contract with the Potato Devil?
you have to become an admin (on your own merit)

most people think that the cost is too high

Re: Sinful’s exclusive Hot Nuts (Wacky Headmin edition)

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2023 3:18 am
by RaveRadbury
I don't have any hard feelings towards Sinfulbliss. Before this if I was asked to comment on him I'd have to take a second to form an opinion. Like other peanut thread readers, I know him from the threads he starts and the occasional wild one. Looking back through threads I remembered the moments where I had a concern but dismissed it because I didn't think it was too bad and I didn't want to start a big thing over it. Making a lot of these calls is difficult, especially because you don't want to be the stickler and you don't want to have to deal with the fallout.

Before I placed the warnings and ban I spoke with the admin team. Other staff had more informed and stronger opinions about Sinful and his engagement of the community. I always ask for advice before I do forum actions because it feels weird to have to make such strong calls on things as subjective as forum posts. But ultimately the call was mine and I have to own that.