/tg/Station 13

TF2 is pretty good, so let's talk about it instead of fucking Starsector by giving it its own thread
What's your favorite class?
How much time you got in the game
Favorite map?
Do you think we'll ever get an actual update?

My favorite class was sniper. I was dog shit at it.
Too many hours
Favorite map was twofort
No, I doubt it

Pyro
Like 2k
Harvest, cause demoknight and flare jumping
Valve will totally do a full update again it's only been 6 years or whatever, it's bound to happen sometime soon.

Engineer
Only 350 hrs
Upward
Depends on what you think an 'actual update' is

I played it a lot but there's so many weapons now I don't understand the meta anymore

my most played/favorite classes are scout engineer and demoman
i have spent 2300 hours on this game
my favorite map is dustbowl despite (or maybe because of) how horribly chokepointy it is
uuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Pyro, really enjoyed using the flare gun.
Steam says I only have 1.4k but that's incorrect. At one point my hours got reset? (Or reduced) I had around 2.3k at some point.
90% of payload maps are great. KoTH too.
It would be stupid if they didn't update it. Might take them awhile, though. Tf2 is basically a finished game anyway, outside of fixing the anti-cheat it doesn't really need new content.

Spent quiet a lot of money on items, somehow ended up making more than I spent, played comp a few times, made a few friends, learnt how to play all classes well and much more.
I spent years playing just Tf2 but I don't play it anymore for a mixture of reasons.

edit: actual answer for #4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T_7TQm6-es

No real favourite, I played a bit of everything but if you forced me to pick one, Medic because I love being the factor that decides the outcome of a fight.
200 hours, haven't played it in a couple years sadly though I should really fix that
I was a 24/7 2Fort Server enjoyer
They've said they're planning an update this year, if memory serves?

I like playing engineer. I'm not very good at it but my sentry helps shoot things for me. If a game has a character that lets you build cool turrets that shoot stuff for you it's the only character that I will play.
690 hours. I played it a lot when I was a kid and I still remember the day I found out engineers could get metal from dispensers and ammo packs. Before that I thought I had to kill enemies for their weapon pickups and could never manage to build more than one or two buildings.
Mann Manor is probably my favorite map, lots of fun spots to hide in. I don't know why but there's something very appealing about low-traffic map spots that have no business existing gameplay-wise.
Maybe there will be an update again, who knows.

also me and a friend got matching strange half-zatoichi's so that we could duel as demoknights and instakill eachother on near-empty trade servers and he's AHEAD OF ME BY LIKE 150 KILLS
FUCK

Scorch
Not much
Complex
respawn already said they have no plans to make new content.

What's your favorite class?
Conquest-class Battlecruiser. I just fucking love the broadside playstyle.
How much time you got in the game
Dunno, it's not on steam or anything. At least 500 hours.
Favorite map?
A toss between the Aztlan and Askonia Star Systems. The Hegemony contact in Coatl is dope, but Sindia is PACKED with people and goods.
Do you think we'll ever get an actual update?
We get those on the regular, every couple of years, and mods are maintained quite well.

You can't stop it.

You can't.

Can't.

Indie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:50 am TF2 is pretty good, so let's talk about it instead of fucking Starsector by giving it its own thread
What's your favorite class?
How much time you got in the game
Favorite map?
Do you think we'll ever get an actual update?

Scout
over 1000 hours. would have more if I wasn't homeless for a few years.
cp_cyberpunk baby
Nosir

my badge

>Favorite class

>Hours
Steam says 2,051 but I think that got reset at some point, it's definitely higher.
>Favorite map
PL_Frontier
>Will it get an update?
Yes, but if you're expecting more than some cosmetics and a few maps, you're delusional.

E: Oh, I wanted to show off my favorite cosmetic.

Ronin
a hundred ish hours, but I'm not sure if Northstar hours count
Glitch!

Used to love tf2, then matchmaking and such came out and it kinda killed my desire to play it. Then a steadily growing core of “not hacking but just really good” snipers have pretty much killed my desire to play the game further. It’s a shame since I’ve played tf2 for nearly a decade now. Turns out balancing something around “surely people won’t dedicate 1,000 hours to become good at this, right?” isn’t a good balancing decision when it’s the only long range class in a game full of short to midrange combat.

My favorite class is usually medic. I like seeing a push and thinking “yeah, I helped make this.”

Last I checked I had about 2,000 hours in the game. Most of my hours were gained from 2013-2015/2016-ish.

I'm kinda torn between 2fort and Upwards. 2fort is objectively a terrible map but sometimes I like to fight in a giant clusterfuck death match that goes on for two hours. I enjoy upwards since it's one of the first maps I played but I've tended to play it a lot less because defending snipers have some absurd positions they can stand in to kill people.

No, there won't be any substantial updates for the foreseeable future. Valve realized that it can piss directly into the community’s mouth, and there are still enough morons that will drink every drop and thank them for the opportunity.

I love titanfall 2. It's my favorite video game.

i play pyro
i have 400 hours (i still suck more than like 20 hour players its quite sad)
i like upward, badwater, dustbowl
i wish but probably no

tf2 spent many years being my favorite game, and i even played some comp here and there

scout is my main but i used to dump hours on spy

upward and 24/7 hightower is good

update was just confirmed too but it probably wont be as big as the community is hyping

TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:12 am tf2 spent many years being my favorite game, and i even played some comp here and there

scout is my main but i used to dump hours on spy

upward and 24/7 hightower is good

update was just confirmed too but it probably wont be as big as the community is hyping

They actually had to backpedal on what the blog post said because people were hyping it up too much. They changed the wording to "holiday-sized update" which is code for "we randomly picked a bunch of hats, taunts, possibly a map that we haven't tested, and some unusual effects." All off the steam workshop, of course. Heaven forbid that a company valued in the billions spend anything more for this game that is raking in probable millions a year with a player base in the hundreds of thousands.

I just want all the weapons to be viable to use. Even before the push for Comp, valve had a fairly large pile of weapons that are either entirely useless or are just downgrades. Speaking of, Valve made a few weapons useless to appease the fickle masses of comp players, and then the casual community was left with the trash as the comp players went back to their hugboxes where that shit was already banned and continued to stay banned. Never forget how some weapons were nerfed specifically based on feedback from high-tier comp players then all the comp leagues preceded to keep said offending weapons banned even after the nerf that THEY ASKED FOR. 12v12 and 6v6 being perfectly balanced without tweaked weapon stats depending on if it's casual or comp is impossible for certain weapons. Uncle Dane is a moron for suggesting otherwise. Trickle-down balance doesn't apply to a lot of weapons.

The Meet Your Match update and its consequences have been a disaster for the TF2 race.

Sorry. Thinking about the state of modern TF2 gets me saltier than the goddamn dead sea.

Can u believe there are still people who play TF2 who are sniper apologists…. crazy stuff man

pyro
3,400~ hours but probably two or three hundred of them were idling when that was a thing
upward is probably the most uninteresting answer but its fun, i prefer payload and cp in general
probably eventually

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:13 am Can u believe there are still people who play TF2 who are sniper apologists…. crazy stuff man

"just use a different route man"
take a different route and gets instakilled by the same sniper because they're moving around

"Just go spy and kill the sniper"
sniper swaps to razor back and stays around his team

"Just don't play any open maps"
has to deal with a sniper sitting in a choke insta-killing people

"Just don't play any maps that only have one route to push through"
gets instakilled by a sniper sitting in the back or maneuvering with his team

"Just magically flank the sniper then shoot him at point blank"
sniper 180's and headshots you

"Just strike from above the sniper"
sniper shoots you out of the air like a clay disk

"Just push with your team via an uber and kill the sniper"
sniper retreats, waits for the uber to end then starts killing again

"Just don't peak his signline lmao"
said sniper is pushing WITH HIS TEAM

"Just play on community servers with an experienced playerbase that knows how to deal with snipers"
now has to deal with multiple experienced sniper mains on the same team

Good luck if it's any of those maps where the payload or the last control point are anywhere near spawn. The snipers will just sit right by the spawn door then run away if they're in any actual danger. The only time I've seen "just flank lmao" work is either if the map is a symmetric CP like 5cp gorge and you happen to catch the sniper with his pants down on the way to the frontlines, or that the enemy's frontline is so tattered and the enemy team is so incompetent that you can do it more than once or twice. Even then, good snipers will usually spend most of their time hovering around the main part of the team since even if they die, it's almost certain the spy will also die afterward, or even get spotted before being able to go for a stab in the first place.

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:13 am Can u believe there are still people who play TF2 who are sniper apologists…. crazy stuff man

99% of the time its a skill issue and thats ok. A person that puts 100000 hours into sniper will be a god at the class. This person will still be a god if they put that time on another class and a soldier/demo with the same amount of hours will pubstomp even worse because then you really wont have an answer when they break the videogame to fly at 100 mph and 2 shot everyone.

If they're alone (good snipers can opt for this if they have a NASTY angle) a spy/scout/any flanker should be killing them consistently, if they go razorback to do this just shoot them lol its a waste of a slot if you arent playing near your team

If they are playing around their team just harass the sniper, and if they are any good you can save an uber or coordinate (gl on casual though lol) a push. Good soliders / demos shouldnt have too much of a problem since they have tools to dive a sniper and if they dont have to dive the medic there isnt really a much better option

If the sniper is just cracked and hitting everything or even worse their team has a combined IQ of >50 and give him help you may just be fucked and it happens, but it would be the same scenario if a god tier soldier or demo was placed on the other team instead of a god tier sniper

Sniper benefits from the chaos of casual but he isnt broken lol, especially when these two menaces are still in the game

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 12:36 am
I just want all the weapons to be viable to use. Even before the push for Comp, valve had a fairly large pile of weapons that are either entirely useless or are just downgrades. Speaking of, Valve made a few weapons useless to appease the fickle masses of comp players

comp leagues just externally ban weapons and reskins lol the balance changes arent for them

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "just use a different route man"
take a different route and gets instakilled by the same sniper because they're moving around

The sniper is moving for two reasons. 1. He was threatened. 2. He saw your medic take a flank and followed him. No good sniper gives up pick consistency just to maybe get an extra kill.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just go spy and kill the sniper"
sniper swaps to razor back and stays around his team

You have a gun? Use it.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just don't play any open maps"
has to deal with a sniper sitting in a choke insta-killing people

Most maps don't have one choke. Tell me what commonly played map has a single choke that can't be pushed through with an uber.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just don't play any maps that only have one route to push through"
gets instakilled by a sniper sitting in the back or maneuvering with his team

Specialist class does what specialist class is best at. Shocking.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just magically flank the sniper then shoot him at point blank"
sniper 180's and headshots you

If you want to claim that every single sniper can constantly do this, you're lying.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just strike from above the sniper"
sniper shoots you out of the air like a clay disk

Same as above.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just push with your team via an uber and kill the sniper"
sniper retreats, waits for the uber to end then killing again

An uber isn't just used to kill all the badmen. You use an uber to establish your presence on the objective. If your team isn't doing that, no shit you're going to have problems.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just don't peak his signline lmao"
said sniper is pushing WITH HIS TEAM

This makes him much easier to kill. For example, you'd be able to kill him during an uber charge as he wouldn't be able to escape while pushing. He's taking a risk and becoming slightly stronger, nothing wrong with that.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just play on community servers with an experienced playerbase that knows how to deal with snipers"
now has to deal with multiple experienced sniper mains on the same team

Can't win em all.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am Good luck if it's any of those maps where the payload or the last control point are anywhere near spawn. The snipers will just sit right by the spawn door then run away if they're in any actual danger.

Free time for your team to establish their presence on the objective without worrying about the sniper shooting you? That's great.

If you think sniper is OP, tell me how you'd fix him.

Indie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:50 am TF2 is pretty good, so let's talk about it instead of fucking Starsector by giving it its own thread
What's your favorite class?
How much time you got in the game
Favorite map?
Do you think we'll ever get an actual update?

I like all classes but sniper and spy over everything else
525 hours
I don't have one
Yes

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:13 am Can u believe there are still people who play TF2 who are sniper apologists…. crazy stuff man

sniper, spy and pyro: the unholy trinity of classes that just make the game Not Fun

sniper is so fucking obnoxious to play against. every time i get killed by a sniper i switch to stock sniper just to teach them to sit the fuck down. other than that i love playing huntsman sniper. classic sniper is hilarious i respect it

epic spy players using kunai and dead ringer think they’re good at the game and the only times they’re able to kill me is when i’m like bored out of my mind or walking out of spawn. i make sure to chase these morons down across the map every time just to annoy them. gun spies are hilarious and i occasionally play gun spy (THE REVOLVER IS TERRIFYING) (RIP AMBASSADOR)

pyro can just make soldiers and demomen unable to play the game. but everything else about pyro is fine methinks. i like playing shotgun pyro.

except fuck the scorch shot and flare gun bro they buffed the afterburn damage from 3 to 4 but never made the fire last shorter so if you get hit by either you lose like 110 health

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:56 am but never made the fire last shorter

They did, in the same patch that increased the afterburn damage.
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Flar ... te_history

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:55 am

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:13 am Can u believe there are still people who play TF2 who are sniper apologists…. crazy stuff man

sniper, spy and pyro: the unholy trinity of classes that just make the game Not Fun

sniper is so fucking obnoxious to play against. every time i get killed by a sniper i switch to stock sniper just to teach them to sit the fuck down. other than that i love playing huntsman sniper. classic sniper is hilarious i respect it

epic spy players using kunai and dead ringer think they’re good at the game and the only times they’re able to kill me is when i’m like bored out of my mind or walking out of spawn. i make sure to chase these morons down across the map every time just to annoy them. gun spies are hilarious and i occasionally play gun spy (THE REVOLVER IS TERRIFYING) (RIP AMBASSADOR)

pyro can just make soldiers and demomen unable to play the game. but everything else about pyro is fine methinks. i like playing shotgun pyro.

spy sucks and his entire existence is invalidated by sniper who can shut down entire sightlines and consistently pick off high value targets for free with his only sort of counter being himself, just dont sprint at spy in a straight line or follow him up a slope and you wont get trickstabbed, then kill him at your leisure

Indie-ana Jones wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:50 am TF2 is pretty good, so let's talk about it instead of fucking Starsector by giving it its own thread
What's your favorite class?
How much time you got in the game
Favorite map?
Do you think we'll ever get an actual update?

but anyway for this

demo probably
700 something hours
borneo or badwater
no lol

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:14 pm

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:55 am

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:13 am Can u believe there are still people who play TF2 who are sniper apologists…. crazy stuff man

sniper, spy and pyro: the unholy trinity of classes that just make the game Not Fun

sniper is so fucking obnoxious to play against. every time i get killed by a sniper i switch to stock sniper just to teach them to sit the fuck down. other than that i love playing huntsman sniper. classic sniper is hilarious i respect it

epic spy players using kunai and dead ringer think they’re good at the game and the only times they’re able to kill me is when i’m like bored out of my mind or walking out of spawn. i make sure to chase these morons down across the map every time just to annoy them. gun spies are hilarious and i occasionally play gun spy (THE REVOLVER IS TERRIFYING) (RIP AMBASSADOR)

pyro can just make soldiers and demomen unable to play the game. but everything else about pyro is fine methinks. i like playing shotgun pyro.

spy sucks and his entire existence is invalidated by sniper who can shut down entire sightlines and consistently pick off high value targets for free with his only sort of counter being himself, just dont sprint at spy in a straight line or follow him up a slope and you wont get trickstabbed, then kill him at your leisure

oh yeah fighting spies is piss easy. i think the only time i've been trickstabbed in the past year or so is when the spy has like 150+ ping or is interp exploiting. i always just stop right before i enter the corner and wait for them to peek. it's funny every time

dude its fucking hilarious watching some spy player whos obviously trying to stairstab you or bait you into walking around a corner so they can cornerstab you and then you just stand there and kill them

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:17 pm

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 4:14 pm

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:55 am

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:13 am Can u believe there are still people who play TF2 who are sniper apologists…. crazy stuff man

sniper, spy and pyro: the unholy trinity of classes that just make the game Not Fun

sniper is so fucking obnoxious to play against. every time i get killed by a sniper i switch to stock sniper just to teach them to sit the fuck down. other than that i love playing huntsman sniper. classic sniper is hilarious i respect it

epic spy players using kunai and dead ringer think they’re good at the game and the only times they’re able to kill me is when i’m like bored out of my mind or walking out of spawn. i make sure to chase these morons down across the map every time just to annoy them. gun spies are hilarious and i occasionally play gun spy (THE REVOLVER IS TERRIFYING) (RIP AMBASSADOR)

pyro can just make soldiers and demomen unable to play the game. but everything else about pyro is fine methinks. i like playing shotgun pyro.

spy sucks and his entire existence is invalidated by sniper who can shut down entire sightlines and consistently pick off high value targets for free with his only sort of counter being himself, just dont sprint at spy in a straight line or follow him up a slope and you wont get trickstabbed, then kill him at your leisure

oh yeah fighting spies is piss easy. i think the only time i've been trickstabbed in the past year or so is when the spy has like 150+ ping or is interp exploiting. i always just stop right before i enter the corner and wait for them to peek. it's funny every time

interp is just a lie made up by hackers to excuse their behaviour.

It's the TF2 equivalent of 'my brother must have used my ss13 account to grief'

To be fair, interp was a legit in-game exploit for a while. It's since been patched out.

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:55 am

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:13 am Can u believe there are still people who play TF2 who are sniper apologists…. crazy stuff man

pyro can just make soldiers and demomen unable to play the game. but everything else about pyro is fine methinks. i like playing shotgun pyro.

i wish i could play shotgun pyro but i am physiologically and mentally incapable of dropping the detonator

once you master detonator jumps the added mobility for flanks is simply too good to ever think about playing without to me

tbf id love if there was a server mod or something that added a fourth weapon slot for some classes who have multiple very different secondary options because it feels like its hard to justify not taking jarate over smg, sandvich over heavy shotgun, shotgun over soldier banner, etc, but it'd probably break balance

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:55 am pyro can just make soldiers and demomen unable to play the game. but everything else about pyro is fine methinks. i like playing shotgun pyro.

(this kills the pyro)

demo is in a tougher spot but maybe try rolling the bombs? idk i dont play demo

any time i play sn*per i like picking the machina so i can get fully charged bodyshot kills and watch as the hyper sweats start frothing at the mouth saying how im playing the class wrong and that i have no skill (this is true)

I main trolldier but I suck at it. Still fun tho.

TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 11:19 pm

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:55 am pyro can just make soldiers and demomen unable to play the game. but everything else about pyro is fine methinks. i like playing shotgun pyro.

(this kills the pyro)

demo is in a tougher spot but maybe try rolling the bombs? idk i dont play demo

i always run full on stock soldier because whipping out the shotgun and making pyros and scouts drop like flies is great. they never expect it and they very quickly learn to respect me

nianjiilical wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 9:13 pm

iwishforducks wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 5:55 am

Qbmax32 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:13 am Can u believe there are still people who play TF2 who are sniper apologists…. crazy stuff man

pyro can just make soldiers and demomen unable to play the game. but everything else about pyro is fine methinks. i like playing shotgun pyro.

i wish i could play shotgun pyro but i am physiologically and mentally incapable of dropping the detonator

once you master detonator jumps the added mobility for flanks is simply too good to ever think about playing without to me

tbf id love if there was a server mod or something that added a fourth weapon slot for some classes who have multiple very different secondary options because it feels like its hard to justify not taking jarate over smg, sandvich over heavy shotgun, shotgun over soldier banner, etc, but it'd probably break balance

The burst damage is really nice, it removes that sort of timer you have on killing someone once you have the flames on them. Can sorta make up for the mobility with the powerjack and clever jumping, at least on maps where the jumps are more horizontal then vertical.

TheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2023 5:56 am Can sorta make up for the mobility with the powerjack and clever jumping, at least on maps where the jumps are more horizontal then vertical.

There's also a few spots you can det jump using the normal flaregun. I don't remember them all but there's (two?) on badwater.

Mice World wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 2:23 am

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "just use a different route man"
take a different route and gets instakilled by the same sniper because they're moving around

The sniper is moving for two reasons. 1. He was threatened. 2. He saw your medic take a flank and followed him. No good sniper gives up pick consistency just to maybe get an extra kill.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just go spy and kill the sniper"
sniper swaps to razor back and stays around his team

You have a gun? Use it.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just don't play any open maps"
has to deal with a sniper sitting in a choke insta-killing people

Most maps don't have one choke. Tell me what commonly played map has a single choke that can't be pushed through with an uber.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just don't play any maps that only have one route to push through"
gets instakilled by a sniper sitting in the back or maneuvering with his team

Specialist class does what specialist class is best at. Shocking.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just magically flank the sniper then shoot him at point blank"
sniper 180's and headshots you

If you want to claim that every single sniper can constantly do this, you're lying.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just strike from above the sniper"
sniper shoots you out of the air like a clay disk

Same as above.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just push with your team via an uber and kill the sniper"
sniper retreats, waits for the uber to end then killing again

An uber isn't just used to kill all the badmen. You use an uber to establish your presence on the objective. If your team isn't doing that, no shit you're going to have problems.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just don't peak his signline lmao"
said sniper is pushing WITH HIS TEAM

This makes him much easier to kill. For example, you'd be able to kill him during an uber charge as he wouldn't be able to escape while pushing. He's taking a risk and becoming slightly stronger, nothing wrong with that.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am "Just play on community servers with an experienced playerbase that knows how to deal with snipers"
now has to deal with multiple experienced sniper mains on the same team

Can't win em all.

RedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:56 am Good luck if it's any of those maps where the payload or the last control point are anywhere near spawn. The snipers will just sit right by the spawn door then run away if they're in any actual danger.

Free time for your team to establish their presence on the objective without worrying about the sniper shooting you? That's great.

If you think sniper is OP, tell me how you'd fix him.

Dumb sniper main spotted either that or devils advocate. He's definitely extremely busted it's just that many people are mediocre, I've played a shit ton of sniper and I've played competitively. Other then the whole class balance thing TF2 is rad and I gotta get around to playing it again.

EDIT: Decided this post was pointless. This isn't a thread to discuss how balanced sniper is (There's countless others on this topic, one was made on steam only a few days ago) and I don't want to ruin the thread with arguments.

sniper mains should… well you all know what im about to say

if you are getting spanked by a sniper a good tip is to disconnect and hope matchmaking works better for you

the 1% of god tier snipers are either playing highlander (9v9) or spending all their time on aimlab or csgo (where they can see actual reward for being a good sniper in a comp shooter)

anyways time to judge cosmetics so this doesnt turn into a balance argument thread



this is the only one i remember off the top of my head but if i load tf2 i can post my scout and spy

I tried to play it once back in 2014
Chose soldier
Tried to throw a grenade but it didn't work
I gave up after that

I've actually finally just started playing the game with some pals after 18536 years of never touching it.

Been playing heavy and getting praise for doing well, having good positioning, making good space, winning, whatever. Just approaching it the same way I would tank in any other class shooter.

Like less than ten hours.

Idk we've been on Uncletopia against tryhards/comp players/sweats or whatever idk dude I don't know where I am.

I will say I tried the in game matchmaking and immediately cringed at the existence of random crits. Anti-competitive breakpoint ruining garbage right there. Never touching that again.

It's very easy to turn my brain off in the game and just autopilot.

But then again I'm a sweatlord in shooters.

bad take, random crits are funny