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REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:43 am
by LeekiLoku
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Reider sucks. They should be rightfully perma banned, and to never play on sybil again!

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:49 am
by Boot
Ballsy move accusing the banning admin of malice lets see how it plays out.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:58 am
by LeekiLoku
Boot wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:49 am Ballsy move accusing the banning admin of malice lets see how it plays out.
He was teaching (briar bates) how to make maxcaps, and he pulled a reider.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:01 am
by Boot
LeekiLoku wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:58 am
Boot wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:49 am Ballsy move accusing the banning admin of malice lets see how it plays out.
He was teaching (briar bates) how to make maxcaps, and he pulled a reider.
Briar is a scientist I don't see an issue with them being let in to help show a sci man how to do their job.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:10 am
by Scriptis
I forced rasonj to read all of the logs for this one, let's see how he does

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:10 am
by LeekiLoku
Boot wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:01 am
LeekiLoku wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:58 am
Boot wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:49 am Ballsy move accusing the banning admin of malice lets see how it plays out.
He was teaching (briar bates) how to make maxcaps, and he pulled a reider.
Briar is a scientist I don't see an issue with them being let in to help show a sci man how to do their job.
Exactly its just that rasonJ is new, reider just doesnt really care. They need to learn.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:11 am
by iwishforducks
you hate to see it. reider permabanned for dumb reasons. there's like a million other good reasons to permaban reider

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:12 am
by LeekiLoku
Scriptis wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:10 am I forced rasonj to read all of the logs for this one, let's see how he does
You cant ban the reider. He will prevail.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:28 am
by TheLoLSwat
Boot wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:49 am Ballsy move accusing the banning admin of malice lets see how it plays out.
to be completely fair as someone who is familiar with both of them, Rasonj is THE anti-maskanery fanclub president at sybil

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dramatic recreation by a commissioned artist but you get the idea. I really do trust rason though and im 99% sure he wouldnt do something like this in pure bad faith just to "dunk" on reider.

The logs will show who is in the right, but hopefully the conversation doesnt have to go in that direction and it really is a complete misunderstanding. Its tough because i enjoy both of these players and think they both contribute unique things to sybil security

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:38 am
by BeeSting12
I'd need to see the contents of Reider's initial adminhelp to know if it was a valid ban. On the whole escalation from his side looks valid, and obviously the other side was an antagonist, but if they weren't, I can see how a player would question decapitation over a fight over insulated gloves.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:41 am
by conrad
Oh this suuuuucks dude

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:45 am
by TheLoLSwat
good thing this came right after the election so the headmins are still in the honeymoon phase and will have a bunch of cool things to say about it

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:49 am
by conrad
Scriptis wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:10 am I forced rasonj to read all of the logs for this one, let's see how he does
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Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:53 am
by BeeSting12
Scriptis wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:10 am I forced rasonj to read all of the logs for this one, let's see how he does
obviously he didn't read all of them otherwise he would've noticed brian and reider talking about the finer details of bomb making

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 1:57 am
by TheLoLSwat
THIS IS A PERMABAN WALLAHI

knowing that, I think rason let his anti-reider ness that he developed long before becoming an admin seep in a tiny bit and atleast its happening now while he is a candymin so it can be ironed out.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:12 am
by HeyHey
Oh no who could have predicted this?!

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:38 am
by rasonj
For all my fellow peanut enjoyers, here is a fun break down of the logs. I had watched all of this happen live from the moment Jarvis said cunt and caught my eye.



The encounter begins when Monty calls Reider a cunt. Reider responds by shove stun shoe stripping Monty. Reider then attacks a light fixture to create glass to trip and cut his newly shoeless victim
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Monty responds by throwing a toolbox at Reider. This devolves into an extended series of shoves, kicks, chair throws, toolboxing, and an otherwise entertaining wrestling match to watch. As an active observer, I felt Reider was going easy on the new player. It ends with Monty getting his shoes back and taking Reider's insulated gloves. Monty then Epis Reider and gives him to a medborg.
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Reider is healed, stands up, and proclaims "I am allowed to lethal them. I shall solve this issue"" to the doctors that woke him up.
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But first, Titus has shoes, and this cannot be allowed
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Reider traps his target with a firelock and begins shove stun stripping him to get the gloves back. During the wrestling, Reider smashes a beer over Monty's head. Nearby crew begin to intervene, Calls-The-Void lands a welder to Reider's head.
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Reider runs off and finds a new person to shove stun smash and shoe steal.
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Reider finds Monty in medbay healing up after their previous encounter and begins the same routine there. Monty calls for security to come arrest Reider.
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A chase ensues into the hallway where Monty lands a bola throw and then begins using a butcher cleaver on Reider. Nearby crew join in to bring him down. Reider is turned into a brain.
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Monty toss the chef Reider's brain and is in the process of telling him to "make his brain" when suddenly the chef(secretky a ling) betrays Monty and gibs him too.
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At this point I had really enjoyed my spectacle, it was a classic example of sybil shoe stealing resulting in a crowd lynching Reider, as is tradition. Then I got an ahelp and was horrified to realize my Candy ass was gonna have to take it.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:46 am
by Timberpoes
Get these bitches some logs. Bitches love logs.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:51 am
by Chadley
Can't find a single Reider enjoyer. Interesting guy. Waiting for the power trip to hit and him to go full megalomaniac.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:52 am
by BeeSting12
The ahelp is the most important part of the logs and you left it out

edit - nvm its in the appeal itself. yeah ahelp was definitely lacking on the info.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:44 am
by wubli
is this guy the flavor of the month asshole that takes a long time to get banned because they always get really close to breaking the rules but never directly do so

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:55 am
by wesoda25
Big rip to the candie for having to deal with a ticket like this so soon. Kudos for swiftly resolving it and just removing the note, as opposed to digging in and trying to bring them up on something else.

Really lets reider know just where they stand with admins though, yeesh

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:08 am
by Ziiro
rasonj wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:38 am
Monty toss the chef Reider's brain and is in the process of telling him to "make his brain" when suddenly the chef(secretky a ling) betrays Monty and gibs him too.
I love this stupid game so much sometimes, magnificent.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:16 am
by Indie-ana Jones
I'd rather see Lisa banned than Reider.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:30 am
by Turbonerd
Everyone that has used spin flip clap emote in quick succession should get banned. Every single nonantag that has ever "robusted" a security officer or head of staff should get banned. People that tide the tech storage round start should get banned.

There are lots of people that should get banned.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:22 am
by Kendrickorium
everyone in that appeal should be banned

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:22 am
by Kendrickorium
everyone in that appeal should be banned

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:29 am
by Timonk
everyone in that appeal should be banned

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:17 am
by Kendrickorium
can i ask why all of the admins in the admin bus said it was okay to permaban reider over what they thought was a banbaiting attempt

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:19 am
by saprasam
wubli wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:44 am is this guy the flavor of the month asshole that takes a long time to get banned because they always get really close to breaking the rules but never directly do so
they've been the flavor of the month asshole for the past 3 months

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:52 am
by Bawhoppennn
I dislike when admins permaban for some shitty reason that did not warrant it, rather than just having the actual nerve to rule 0 permaban shitters

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 11:43 am
by Not-Dorsidarf
incomprehensible incident. Sucky one for a newer admin to get tho

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 12:11 pm
by LeekiLoku
wubli wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 3:44 am is this guy the flavor of the month asshole that takes a long time to get banned because they always get really close to breaking the rules but never directly do so
Reider is a G. He knows the rules well, he would actually be a surprisingly good admin if he ever get most of his notes done away.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:02 pm
by warbluke
"[2023-03-23 23:05:41.430] SAY: Maskenary/(Reider Meza) "i am allowed to lethal them" (Medbay Treatment Center (148,117,4))"
Damn, they could at least have said "I shall have my vengance, their downfall is nigh!" or something. saying "I am allowed to lethal them" is like saying "This is a shitty round"

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:02 pm
by BeeSting12
warbluke wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:02 pm "[2023-03-23 23:05:41.430] SAY: Maskenary/(Reider Meza) "i am allowed to lethal them" (Medbay Treatment Center (148,117,4))"
Damn, they could at least have said "I shall have my vengance, their downfall is nigh!" or something. saying "I am allowed to lethal them" is like saying "This is a shitty round"
10:55:16 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "VALID" (47, 138, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:17 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "VALID" (47, 138, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:23 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "THATS VALID" (60, 140, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:26 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "IM COMIONG FOR YOU" (60, 140, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:46 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "it means you have to die, bitch" (72, 145, 4) Primary Tool Storage

This is way worse and came from the same round

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:40 pm
by krimmity
reider moment :)

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:54 pm
by TheLoLSwat
Indie-ana Jones wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:16 am I'd rather see Lisa banned than Reider.
bro wtf :(

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:27 pm
by Turbonerd
BeeSting12 wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:02 pm
warbluke wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:02 pm "[2023-03-23 23:05:41.430] SAY: Maskenary/(Reider Meza) "i am allowed to lethal them" (Medbay Treatment Center (148,117,4))"
Damn, they could at least have said "I shall have my vengance, their downfall is nigh!" or something. saying "I am allowed to lethal them" is like saying "This is a shitty round"
10:55:16 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "VALID" (47, 138, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:17 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "VALID" (47, 138, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:23 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "THATS VALID" (60, 140, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:26 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "IM COMIONG FOR YOU" (60, 140, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:46 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "it means you have to die, bitch" (72, 145, 4) Primary Tool Storage

This is way worse and came from the same round
Ahelp it.

Re: REIDER SUCKS!!

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:45 pm
by BeeSting12
Turbonerd wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:27 pm
BeeSting12 wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 5:02 pm
warbluke wrote: Fri Mar 24, 2023 4:02 pm "[2023-03-23 23:05:41.430] SAY: Maskenary/(Reider Meza) "i am allowed to lethal them" (Medbay Treatment Center (148,117,4))"
Damn, they could at least have said "I shall have my vengance, their downfall is nigh!" or something. saying "I am allowed to lethal them" is like saying "This is a shitty round"
10:55:16 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "VALID" (47, 138, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:17 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "VALID" (47, 138, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:23 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "THATS VALID" (60, 140, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:26 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "IM COMIONG FOR YOU" (60, 140, 4) Arrival Shuttle Hallway
10:55:46 SAY Jarvis01/(Monty Aleksleev) "it means you have to die, bitch" (72, 145, 4) Primary Tool Storage

This is way worse and came from the same round
Ahelp it.
I wasn't playing that round. I only noticed it because of the above appeal. I do when I see it ingame though.