NUTCON 2023 ALLOWED BY *RAGING* ADMIN

[kinnebian]

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=34051
i cant believe RAGEGUY would DO THIS man .. so fukkdk upp..

[datorangebottle]

we already know the contents of the ticket from the policy thread.
Carsh was extremely upset and unhelpful in the ahelp. Expecting rageguy to magically already know who got willingly converted and who got stun handed without any details is pretty unreasonable.
Provide names, if you're witnessing it. It'll let him focus his search on those people, and finding one willing convert might lead to another.
Does he have logs? Yes. He also has you being a smartass filling up his screen and ears with BWOINK. Being a distracting asshole helps nothing.

[Cheshify]

Man what a way to kill admin morale. Sorry but you didn't ban people you didn't know the names of while being yelled at, now you get to handle an admin complaint.

[kinnebian]

Does he have logs? Yes. He also has you being a smartass filling up his screen and ears with BWOINK. Being a distracting asshole helps nothing.

peanut only started already good takeaway post

[carshalash]

Man what a way to kill admin morale. Sorry but you didn't ban people you didn't know the names of while being yelled at, now you get to handle an admin complaint.

People got pissed I made a policy thread instead of a feedback thread to disallow this, and now you're getting mad that I made a feedback thread.

[Super Aggro Crag]

they just hate you cuz they are racist against australian

[Cheshify]

Man what a way to kill admin morale. Sorry but you didn't ban people you didn't know the names of while being yelled at, now you get to handle an admin complaint.

People got pissed I made a policy thread instead of a feedback thread to disallow this, and now you're getting mad that I made a feedback thread.

Maybe it's time we get a good way to request admin action on things as an alternative to a complaint

NSFW:

Bring ban requests back boys let's goooo

[carshalash]

Man what a way to kill admin morale. Sorry but you didn't ban people you didn't know the names of while being yelled at, now you get to handle an admin complaint.

People got pissed I made a policy thread instead of a feedback thread to disallow this, and now you're getting mad that I made a feedback thread.

Maybe it's time we get a good way to request admin action on things as an alternative to a complaint

NSFW:

Bring ban requests back boys let's goooo

I don't even want bans; I just want a mass warning not to do this and ensure this never happens again. One of the original cultists was posting about their plans to do this repeatedly,

[Archie700]

You didn't give Rageguy a name of any one of the willing converts and you didn't even tell them this was happening openly at bar. That was just a very unhelpful ahelp.

Oh the other hand, I really don't like "willing converts" self-antaging in the name of RP. This whole thing should have been investigated and Rageguy should have at least asked further on why you believed that.

I'll give Rageguy that though, after he closed the first ahelp, he realized his mistake and reopened it. That should have been the time to explain what happened from your PoV.

[Rageguy505]

You didn't give Rageguy a name of any one of the willing converts and you didn't even tell them this was happening openly at bar. That was just a very unhelpful ahelp.

Oh the other hand, I really don't like "willing converts" self-antaging in the name of RP. This whole thing should have been investigated and Rageguy should have at least asked further on why you believed that.

I'll give Rageguy that though, after he closed the first ahelp, he realized his mistake and reopened it. That should have been the time to explain what happened from your PoV.

I closed the first ahelp because I was gonna click on his name to respond and the chat moved the close button under my mouse

[conrad]

You people need to stop assuming worst intentions at every turn.

[Pandarsenic]

I closed the first ahelp because I was gonna click on his name to respond and the chat moved the close button under my mouse

This has also happened to me an embarrassing number of times

[kinnebian]

You people need to stop assuming worst intentions at every turn.

[scamoppi]

NUTCON 3
7 minutes to midnight

[Boris]

I closed the first ahelp because I was gonna click on his name to respond and the chat moved the close button under my mouse

This has also happened to me an embarrassing number of times

Use the ticket tab. Please, use the ticket tab.

[Kubisopplay]

I closed the first ahelp because I was gonna click on his name to respond and the chat moved the close button under my mouse

This has also happened to me an embarrassing number of times

Use the ticket tab. Please, use the ticket tab.

No, I will close the tickets because of chat scrolling and you cant do anything about it

[Kendrickorium]

i'm confused

who wouldnt want to go to cultcon?

[Fren256]

I can't believe admins aren't omnipotent beings that know what all the players in a round are doing all the time.

On the other hand, I'm curious. Do these events get a follow up or are they simply swept under the rug?

[kinnebian]

I can't believe admins aren't omnipotent beings that know what all the players in a round are doing all the time.

On the other hand, I'm curious. Do these events get a follow up or are they simply swept under the rug?

Depends!
Its looked into if someone inquires about it in a future round like: "hey this person did this x rounds ago" then i know if it was overly egregious might warrant an investigation, but if someone ahelps a vague issue, insults the admin when they ask for more patience, then dc's?

[TheRex9001]

i'm confused

who wouldnt want to go to cultcon?

If there was a real life event called cultcon with actual magic I'd go, thats sick as hell

[conrad]

i'm confused

who wouldnt want to go to cultcon?

If there was a real life event called cultcon with actual magic I'd go, thats sick as hell

User has been banned for this post.

[Constellado]

The people in Manuel had a bad time that day. A real bad time. People were pissed. Apparently there was two rounds of failed admin events in a row or something (station got deleted!!!) right before the cult con round....

I am glad I didn't play those hours wuuf.

[WineAllWine]

I closed the first ahelp because I was gonna click on his name to respond and the chat moved the close button under my mouse

This has also happened to me an embarrassing number of times

Ditto.This and responding to myself in an ahelp -.-

[Rageguy505]

I can't believe admins aren't omnipotent beings that know what all the players in a round are doing all the time.

On the other hand, I'm curious. Do these events get a follow up or are they simply swept under the rug?

Depends!
Its looked into if someone inquires about it in a future round like: "hey this person did this x rounds ago" then i know if it was overly egregious might warrant an investigation, but if someone ahelps a vague issue, insults the admin when they ask for more patience, then dc's?

The round ended, they didn't disconnect

[kinnebian]

I can't believe admins aren't omnipotent beings that know what all the players in a round are doing all the time.

On the other hand, I'm curious. Do these events get a follow up or are they simply swept under the rug?

Depends!
Its looked into if someone inquires about it in a future round like: "hey this person did this x rounds ago" then i know if it was overly egregious might warrant an investigation, but if someone ahelps a vague issue, insults the admin when they ask for more patience, then dc's?

The round ended, they didn't disconnect

mb

[Cobby]

You didn't give Rageguy a name of any one of the willing converts and you didn't even tell them this was happening openly at bar. That was just a very unhelpful ahelp.

Oh the other hand, I really don't like "willing converts" self-antaging in the name of RP. This whole thing should have been investigated and Rageguy should have at least asked further on why you believed that.

I'll give Rageguy that though, after he closed the first ahelp, he realized his mistake and reopened it. That should have been the time to explain what happened from your PoV.

I closed the first ahelp because I was gonna click on his name to respond and the chat moved the close button under my mouse

should have double downed and said you closed it until he sent a proper ahelp

[dirk_mcblade]

People willingly join cults all the time IRL, IC issue if even. Lame admin complaint.

[RedBaronFlyer]

The people in Manuel had a bad time that day. A real bad time. People were pissed. Apparently there was two rounds of failed admin events in a row or something (station got deleted!!!) right before the cult con round....

I am glad I didn't play those hours wuuf.

The first round was essentially a moderately peaceful round. Then the admins did a fog that killed EVERYBODY that wasn't a silicon or on lavaland with nothing the crew could do. It also deleted everything that wasn't an iron wall or floor. It was so bad that the admins hit the restart button instead of a shuttle because it was FUCKED. Some people got mad, but most took it in stride. Shit happens.

Then the admins did "HAHA shit tons of antags and multiple immovable rods Xd," (please stop doing this, manuelmins. I have NEVER seen it be received well.) Which also increased the salt because, at that point, people weren't even roleplaying, and people were just getting gunned down for shits and giggles. Antags were running around mercing people in broad daylight without anyone doing anything. Borgs were just ignoring people getting merced by lings. Nonrevs were randomly flashing people. Then there were actual revs, which meant that the round went on for another 20 minutes after the shuttle docked, and lots of people got killed. Immovable rods meant that large portions of the station were spaced, and thus lots of crew fatalities through airlock hell. This wouldn't be an issue if it were, like, 30 minutes, but this was a full hour and ten minutes of some of the most NRP I've ever seen on manuel. It was genuinely horrible. A decent portion of people were getting moderately peeved at this point and were asking the admins to cut it out.

Then we had a round on Cerestation where people banzai charged into cultcon to get converted. Leading to the round lasting, like, fifteen minutes. At that point, most people just called it a night early and left, me included. I don't really recall anyone but carshalash being mad about this round, though. People were telling him to calm down as he went on a tangent about admins and how the server is worthless, and he went on a momentary tangent in the Manuelcord end round chat about why Slurge (Seren Highwater) got permabanned. Most other people seemed to just be disappointed that the round was that short but thought it was funny nonetheless.

I absolutely regret playing that day. Round two was genuinely the worst round I've ever had in SS13, which is a feat. At least round one was a genuine fucky wucky, and three was just meme stuff done by players. I'm 100% certain that if the previous two rounds hadn't happened, then this admin complaint wouldn't exist.

Also, I feel like a cultcon every now and then is fine, as long as people are somewhat roleplaying it. The moment cultcon gets busted out every round is when admins need to step in.

[Archie700]

The people in Manuel had a bad time that day. A real bad time. People were pissed. Apparently there was two rounds of failed admin events in a row or something (station got deleted!!!) right before the cult con round....

I am glad I didn't play those hours wuuf.

The first round was essentially a moderately peaceful round. Then the admins did a fog that killed EVERYBODY that wasn't a silicon or on lavaland with nothing the crew could do. It also deleted everything that wasn't an iron wall or floor. It was so bad that the admins hit the restart button instead of a shuttle because it was FUCKED. Some people got mad, but most took it in stride. Shit happens.

Then the admins did "HAHA shit tons of antags and multiple immovable rods Xd," (please stop doing this, manuelmins. I have NEVER seen it be received well.) Which also increased the salt because, at that point, people weren't even roleplaying, and people were just getting gunned down for shits and giggles. Antags were running around mercing people in broad daylight without anyone doing anything. Borgs were just ignoring people getting merced by lings. Nonrevs were randomly flashing people. Then there were actual revs, which meant that the round went on for another 20 minutes after the shuttle docked, and lots of people got killed. Immovable rods meant that large portions of the station were spaced, and thus lots of crew fatalities through airlock hell. This wouldn't be an issue if it were, like, 30 minutes, but this was a full hour and ten minutes of some of the most NRP I've ever seen on manuel. It was genuinely horrible. A decent portion of people were getting moderately peeved at this point and were asking the admins to cut it out.

Then we had a round on Cerestation where people banzai charged into cultcon to get converted. Leading to the round lasting, like, fifteen minutes. At that point, most people just called it a night early and left, me included. I don't really recall anyone but carshalash being mad about this round, though. People were telling him to calm down as he went on a tangent about admins and how the server is worthless, and he went on a momentary tangent in the Manuelcord end round chat about why Slurge (Seren Highwater) got permabanned. Most other people seemed to just be disappointed that the round was that short but thought it was funny nonetheless.

I absolutely regret playing that day. Round two was genuinely the worst round I've ever had in SS13, which is a feat. At least round one was a genuine fucky wucky, and three was just meme stuff done by players. I'm 100% certain that if the previous two rounds hadn't happened, then this admin complaint wouldn't exist.

Also, I feel like a cultcon every now and then is fine, as long as people are somewhat roleplaying it. The moment cultcon gets busted out every round is when admins need to step in.

You should probably complain about the fog and the immovable rods under admin events here
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3723

[RedBaronFlyer]

The people in Manuel had a bad time that day. A real bad time. People were pissed. Apparently there was two rounds of failed admin events in a row or something (station got deleted!!!) right before the cult con round....

I am glad I didn't play those hours wuuf.

The first round was essentially a moderately peaceful round. Then the admins did a fog that killed EVERYBODY that wasn't a silicon or on lavaland with nothing the crew could do. It also deleted everything that wasn't an iron wall or floor. It was so bad that the admins hit the restart button instead of a shuttle because it was FUCKED. Some people got mad, but most took it in stride. Shit happens.

Then the admins did "HAHA shit tons of antags and multiple immovable rods Xd," (please stop doing this, manuelmins. I have NEVER seen it be received well.) Which also increased the salt because, at that point, people weren't even roleplaying, and people were just getting gunned down for shits and giggles. Antags were running around mercing people in broad daylight without anyone doing anything. Borgs were just ignoring people getting merced by lings. Nonrevs were randomly flashing people. Then there were actual revs, which meant that the round went on for another 20 minutes after the shuttle docked, and lots of people got killed. Immovable rods meant that large portions of the station were spaced, and thus lots of crew fatalities through airlock hell. This wouldn't be an issue if it were, like, 30 minutes, but this was a full hour and ten minutes of some of the most NRP I've ever seen on manuel. It was genuinely horrible. A decent portion of people were getting moderately peeved at this point and were asking the admins to cut it out.

Then we had a round on Cerestation where people banzai charged into cultcon to get converted. Leading to the round lasting, like, fifteen minutes. At that point, most people just called it a night early and left, me included. I don't really recall anyone but carshalash being mad about this round, though. People were telling him to calm down as he went on a tangent about admins and how the server is worthless, and he went on a momentary tangent in the Manuelcord end round chat about why Slurge (Seren Highwater) got permabanned. Most other people seemed to just be disappointed that the round was that short but thought it was funny nonetheless.

I absolutely regret playing that day. Round two was genuinely the worst round I've ever had in SS13, which is a feat. At least round one was a genuine fucky wucky, and three was just meme stuff done by players. I'm 100% certain that if the previous two rounds hadn't happened, then this admin complaint wouldn't exist.

Also, I feel like a cultcon every now and then is fine, as long as people are somewhat roleplaying it. The moment cultcon gets busted out every round is when admins need to step in.

You should probably complain about the fog and the immovable rods under admin events here
viewtopic.php?f=40&t=3723

Eh, the fog just seemed like something that they didn't think would be that devastating. Seemed extremely accidental, and the "delete 70% of the station and kill all non-organics" seemed unintended.

The rod thing, I can't fully tell if the rods or the absurdly high threat round was just chance or deliberate admin hijinks.

Also, I'm lazy.

[Fren256]

Jesus fucking christ what the hell happened at Manuel

When will the eggheads learn that the more antags there are in a round the quality of the roleplay decreases, especially on Manuel.

[RedBaronFlyer]

Okay I did some digging through logs and yeah the first rod was completely incidental, the second two were forced after the station was already falling to shit.

I'm horrible at reading the logs regarding all the antags, but all I got is one of the admins saying that they didn't do all the antags, so that might just have been an unfortunate coincidence.

The round in question: https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/205579

[Epicgamer545]

The people in Manuel had a bad time that day. A real bad time. People were pissed. Apparently there was two rounds of failed admin events in a row or something (station got deleted!!!) right before the cult con round....

I am glad I didn't play those hours wuuf.

First event was station deleted.

Second event was my event (but I forgot that there was an event last round). It wasn’t that big, I didn’t mess with the midrounds and the only thing I did was summon meteors and a rod after people touched a spooky painting.

Anyways, yeah, my event kinda sucked and I’m sorry for it. But this round on Cerestation (of all stations) was extremely funny. But it was extremely boring when I got converted to a wrath and was asked to kill AI only to walk straight into my death.

This should have been investigated. However sometimes in ahelps you need to know how to explain your problem and give names. We aren’t expected to know everything and the logs are an unorganized mess. Know how to be civil, and we will solve your issue.

[Epicgamer545]

Okay I did some digging through logs and yeah the first rod was completely incidental, the second two were forced after the station was already falling to shit.

I'm horrible at reading the logs regarding all the antags, but all I got is one of the admins saying that they didn't do all the antags, so that might just have been an unfortunate coincidence.

The round in question: https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/205579

DOUBLE POST ALERT

Super sorry about the rod and the meteors, RedBaron.

The justification of doing it wasn’t for no raisin though, and my intention was not to cause the round to be a funny admeme round. There were some paintings positioned at the front of the bridge that I made and that some people witnessed me paint. After I was done painting them I made an announcement for people to not touch the paintings, and, immediately, several people tried breaking into the room in order to break the paintings. After that, I sent the medium meteor wave and a rod but stopped completely after that realizing that the round was already fucked.

Again, sorry for the shit round. I’ll do my best to make an actually good event once the time comes, and I have no defense for how bad it was. Destruction as a event is only good when people are roleplaying, and it was clear nobody was willing to put up with the round after what implied.

To the people who attended the round, sorry for the trouble. While I didn’t mess with antags, it’s clear you guys wanted the round to be uninterrupted and I fully respect that.

[Striders13]

the fog purge was caused by an admin mistyping a single letter while doing a sdql to delete all fog

[RedBaronFlyer]

Okay I did some digging through logs and yeah the first rod was completely incidental, the second two were forced after the station was already falling to shit.

I'm horrible at reading the logs regarding all the antags, but all I got is one of the admins saying that they didn't do all the antags, so that might just have been an unfortunate coincidence.

The round in question: https://scrubby.melonmesa.com/round/205579

DOUBLE POST ALERT

Super sorry about the rod and the meteors, RedBaron.

The justification of doing it wasn’t for no raisin though, and my intention was not to cause the round to be a funny admeme round. There were some paintings positioned at the front of the bridge that I made and that some people witnessed me paint. After I was done painting them I made an announcement for people to not touch the paintings, and, immediately, several people tried breaking into the room in order to break the paintings. After that, I sent the medium meteor wave and a rod but stopped completely after that realizing that the round was already fucked.

Again, sorry for the shit round. I’ll do my best to make an actually good event once the time comes, and I have no defense for how bad it was. Destruction as a event is only good when people are roleplaying, and it was clear nobody was willing to put up with the round after what implied.

To the people who attended the round, sorry for the trouble. While I didn’t mess with antags, it’s clear you guys wanted the round to be uninterrupted and I fully respect that.

It's fine! I'd much rather have the occasional eh event vs. not having any events at all.

the fog purge was caused by an admin mistyping a single letter while doing a sdql to delete all fog

Peak code moment.

[dragomagol]

-snip-

the fog purge was caused by an admin mistyping a single letter while doing a sdql to delete all fog

Peak code moment.

The query in question:

Code: Select all

ADMIN executed SDQL query(s): "DELETE /obj.effect/particle_effect/fluid/smoke".

Which accidentally deleted all objects instead of all smoke. Considering . and / are right next to each other on the keyboard, I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often

[kinnebian]

hit with the good old 1' 2

[Rageguy505]

the picture was too big for me to just throw in the middle of my post, but here is my reconstructed cult con the clown did, cerestation included. The exact decals/colors/positions might be off.

[datorangebottle]

i'm confused

who wouldnt want to go to cultcon?

If there was a real life event called cultcon with actual magic I'd go, thats sick as hell

IRL self-antagging... despicable.......................