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Post by Scriptis » #685794

running for headmin next term

i'm rolling back what i said about the last note, this is fucking lame. i've been working for ages to improve this player's behavior and they've made measurable progress and now you've decided as an observer main to throw them into the hole
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They were bearable to begin with.

If you are banning someone for behavior that does not impact other players (just not fucking speaking enough) and you are pushing that as the reason for them to be banned then something is wrong.
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MooCow12 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:38 am They were bearable to begin with.

If you are banning someone for behavior that does not impact other players (just not fucking speaking enough) and you are pushing that as the reason for them to be banned then something is wrong.
You're not understanding how his actions affect other players. His refusal to RP isn't an excuse. He actively refuses to RP with people because his preferred method of getting things is to break in, steal it, and beat the absolute piss out of anyone who tries to stop him.
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Vekter wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:42 am

You're not understanding how his actions affect other players. His refusal to RP isn't an excuse. He actively refuses to RP with people because his preferred method of getting things is to break in, steal it, and beat the absolute piss out of anyone who tries to stop him.
You mean beat the piss out of people who are also trying to loot said thing, you are blatantly twisting the firelock incident.

There is a massive difference between someone defending their own room and tiders racing/fighting to get items first

I also wordlessly break into eva storage every...single....round...and sometimes fight people over the plasteel and or toolbelt, it might not be the same room or always the same situation but its a similar concept.


And thats without actually talking about breaking into departments themselves that people tend to want to personally defend (and have every right in the universe to). Do you actually believe that its not normal to break into a department to print or steal something as a tider, sometimes i do it as scientist by teleporting in and out but thats besides the point im still doing the same thing but in another way.

And what do you mean by refusal to RP, hes RPing alright just not in a way you want them to, RP doesnt mean directly interact and talk to people, RP is seeing the mess they left behind or the ways they indirectly impact you, RP is the little things they do to impact everyone and make the station more lively and dynamic.

Enforcing everyone to have an open personality and want to talk to eachother in every situation is not dynamic, youre forcing a paradise/world where everyone has the same type of personality, its unrealistic and not right to enforce this sort of standard without even considering the cost of losing the dynamic environment of varying people, you literally might aswell play a single player game with everyone coded as the same type of npc thats waiting for their next dialogue.
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Scriptis wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:34 am running for headmin next term

i'm rolling back what i said about the last note, this is fucking lame. i've been working for ages to improve this player's behavior and they've made measurable progress and now you've decided as an observer main to throw them into the hole
I gotta hand it to ya, if I was in your shoes and I had put in effort to try and rehabilitate someone just to have the rug pulled out from me, I'd be tearing into them a lot more viciously. Apparently there were already a lot of discussion about the ban, but did you get a word in on any of those conversations?

Moreso, why Vekter? Has he actually personally had much to do with maskenary? I would hazard a guess given his presence everywhere, possibly, but you would think if this was a ban placed without an inciting incident that the person to do that is a headmin or someone particularly involved in their situation.
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Vekter wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:42 am
MooCow12 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:38 am They were bearable to begin with.

If you are banning someone for behavior that does not impact other players (just not fucking speaking enough) and you are pushing that as the reason for them to be banned then something is wrong.
You're not understanding how his actions affect other players. His refusal to RP isn't an excuse. He actively refuses to RP with people because his preferred method of getting things is to break in, steal it, and beat the absolute piss out of anyone who tries to stop him.
You lost the fight. Escalation is an IC Issue. sitting on it for a fucking year and saying "hm hm hm its a pattern of behavior i will now kill this man" is the most cowardly and lame thing you can do, Vekter. Like, holy shit dude. Grow the fuck up.
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Honestly, poor reason to perma somebody. Doing it like a day after a note for the same reason feels icky.
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vect0r wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:22 am Honestly, poor reason to perma somebody. Doing it like a day after a note for the same reason feels icky.
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Shit I went on one of those hilarious meta socioanalysis tangents about a theoretical ban like this stemming from bad relations with the playerbase(i think in my original rant it was due to metagang interests) pressuring obsmins to log on and ice someone. Of course this was in the shadow of hulkamania logging on and dropping a qc ban. The correct course of action in cases in which bad faith complaints about players are weighing on administrative patience is to ban the player's original ckey and tell them to make a new account with a new static and all. That should have been done a while ago though.
Reider's(like most HOS mains over many years) reputation preceded him, and I'll tell you that I routinely do some of the crap hes been noted or daybanned for and nobody bats an eye at me- havent gotten a note in two years. That reputation fuels the escape velocity needed for an ahelp to be considered instead of passed back as an IC issue.
I'm not miffed by this ban because setting HOS above low has always been a pipeline to eating a perma. I mean who didn't see this coming? We were talking about this ban in the past tense since this time last year.
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Scriptis wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:34 am i'm rolling back what i said about the last note, this is fucking lame. i've been working for ages to improve this player's behavior and they've made measurable progress and now you've decided as an observer main to throw them into the hole
I feel like fixing players should not be your side project, if you get what I'm saying.
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vect0r wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:22 am Honestly, poor reason to perma somebody. Doing it like a day after a note for the same reason feels icky.
Honestly a QC ban coming soon after a note for a repeated behaviour is exactly what I expect, as the admin team finally reaches a "Oh, again? Fuck it, hit the eject button" consensus.
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BrolyButterfingers wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:42 am
vect0r wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:22 am Honestly, poor reason to perma somebody. Doing it like a day after a note for the same reason feels icky.
Honestly a QC ban coming soon after a note for a repeated behaviour is exactly what I expect, as the admin team finally reaches a "Oh, again? Fuck it, hit the eject button" consensus.
Normally I would agree, but that note wasn't *really* for one piece of behavior, it was for him not RPing during shifts. This ban is for the same reason, as it is a collection of non-rping from his shifts.
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I dont want to shame vektor but they got called an "MRP admin" implying that vektor might have bias for the mrp ruleset, vektor`s response was that doesnt exist lol.

Although I am probably biased so i`ll put up my ONLY interaction with vektor.

I was teaching another player how to do circuit launchpads because they were another lizard scientist and right after i got them to recall with it from the hallway axle/sinful finds our setup that i was using to teach them and trashes it, we respond with a flurry of shoves and grabs (i think we batoned him? idk i need to rewatch it) but anyway axle/sinful arrests us for fighting back after he broke our stuff so after eventually we get released i ahelp asking if we can lethally escalate.

Vektor happened to have been visiting sybil for a round or two and said we cannot lethally escalate since axle/sinful was doing his job. So instead we just teleport into the armory and fry it, and in response to that vektor sends sec a new shipment of equipment for security to mitigate our ability to impact them after they started a conflict with us.

Now i really find it hard to believe that someone who is from an mrp server and visits an lrp server isnt enforcing a different ruleset when they can`t even let ic issues escalate.

And I find it even harder to believe that mrp mindset isnt why they are the one who is banning reider.
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All of my expierences with reiza have been bad
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Reading all Reider's ban appeal makes me think the perma was really inevitable
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EmpressMaia wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:53 am All of my expierences with reiza have been bad
So have mine but more in an "eventful/atleast something happened" sort of way.
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Post by vect0r » #685823

More thoughts:
People don't want to be around Meza. It's pretty clear why, because everybody thinks they are a 'greytiding shit'. They get pretty much valided, and because of there reputation, it's ok, as it's 'just meza'. This toxic cycle of everything just shitting on Reider whenever they get brought up means they never really have a chance to roleplay. They have never been shown good RP, just collecting bans for not RPing, and I would assume they have tried once, and just got fucking dunked by everybody else.
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This isn't a routine vekter echolocation-based administration, obvious foreshadowing right here
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vect0r wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:57 am More thoughts:
They get pretty much valided, and because of there reputation, it's ok, as it's 'just meza'. This toxic cycle of everything just shitting on Reider whenever they get brought up means they never really have a chance to roleplay.
I literally have like 4 clips of him running away and shooting first and asking questions on radio and doing everything he can to avoid talking because that little speech bubble that pops up is an easy cue to kill due to typebaiting

Its probably misplaced memories or bias but i believe he talked more before he got valided and dunked on for it and i probably should have taught him that circuits let you talk without having that speech bubble pop up so its harder to get typebaited.
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you can disable the typebaiting indiciator but not that many people know about it so i try to inform my fellow powergamers
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Scriptis wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:34 am running for headmin next term

i'm rolling back what i said about the last note, this is fucking lame. i've been working for ages to improve this player's behavior and they've made measurable progress and now you've decided as an observer main to throw them into the hole
"Measurable progress" doesn't mean anything if you just get caught for other reasons.

I know how it feels to basically have all progress wasted, but sometimes people just can't be fixed.
vect0r wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:57 am More thoughts:
People don't want to be around Meza. It's pretty clear why, because everybody thinks they are a 'greytiding shit'. They get pretty much valided, and because of there reputation, it's ok, as it's 'just meza'. This toxic cycle of everything just shitting on Reider whenever they get brought up means they never really have a chance to roleplay. They have never been shown good RP, just collecting bans for not RPing, and I would assume they have tried once, and just got fucking dunked by everybody else.
If you're getting targeted because you're a 'greytiding shit', this is honestly the point where you should step back for a while and REALLY consider whether what you're doing is good for the game.
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Archie700 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:28 am
Scriptis wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:34 am running for headmin next term

i'm rolling back what i said about the last note, this is fucking lame. i've been working for ages to improve this player's behavior and they've made measurable progress and now you've decided as an observer main to throw them into the hole
"Measurable progress" doesn't mean anything if you just get caught for other reasons.

I know how it feels to basically have all progress wasted, but sometimes people just can't be fixed.
vect0r wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:57 am More thoughts:
People don't want to be around Meza. It's pretty clear why, because everybody thinks they are a 'greytiding shit'. They get pretty much valided, and because of there reputation, it's ok, as it's 'just meza'. This toxic cycle of everything just shitting on Reider whenever they get brought up means they never really have a chance to roleplay. They have never been shown good RP, just collecting bans for not RPing, and I would assume they have tried once, and just got fucking dunked by everybody else.
If you're getting targeted because you're a 'greytiding shit', this is honestly the point where you should step back for a while and REALLY consider whether what you're doing is good for the game.
mindstormy wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:24 am It feels like this particular instance is not that actionable of an offense on it's own. This is just the end of the road after a pattern that has been going on for months and someone finally is willing to deal with the hours of work to handle the appeal. They have 50+ notes and 20+ bans I do not think anyone is surprised.
Yeah, they were a greytiding shit, but when everybody valids you for being a greytiding shit, I wouldn't be motivated to try and RP w/those people. If I went into a phase where I played poorly, and everybody tried to murder me for it for shift after shift, I would be unmotivated and wouldn't LEAVE this phase.
My solution is to give him a new byond account with a note linking him to his old account, and see if they will RP with a new name.
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Re: Reider Meza - How I learned to stop worrying and love the Bwoink

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NecromancerAnne wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:17 am
Scriptis wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:34 am running for headmin next term

i'm rolling back what i said about the last note, this is fucking lame. i've been working for ages to improve this player's behavior and they've made measurable progress and now you've decided as an observer main to throw them into the hole
I gotta hand it to ya, if I was in your shoes and I had put in effort to try and rehabilitate someone just to have the rug pulled out from me, I'd be tearing into them a lot more viciously. Apparently there were already a lot of discussion about the ban, but did you get a word in on any of those conversations?

Moreso, why Vekter? Has he actually personally had much to do with maskenary? I would hazard a guess given his presence everywhere, possibly, but you would think if this was a ban placed without an inciting incident that the person to do that is a headmin or someone particularly involved in their situation.
Scriptis and I hashed it out on Discord after this. To be fair, I wasn't aware that Scriptis had been doing anything with Reider, but this had started a year ago and things had ended up where they are now. If I had known, I probably would have still pulled the trigger because, to be fair? If this is how little he's improved over a year, I don't really think it's worth it for us to keep pawning him off on the next poor bastard to end up having to deal with him.

It was me because I'd noticed the constant issues with him and decided to take it up as a project. I had headmin approval and support in doing so.
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Can we be honest

Meza's appeals all read like a desperate cry for help to finally permaban them from this place so they can rediscover happiness
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There should always be a minimum standard for good faith interactions between players that isn't you just finding excuses to click them horizontal.
If you've spent a year playing the game and you average about 30 one liners every round with a storied backlog of being a shitter a perma ban should definitely be up for discussion.
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It has always amazed me how people like Reider can't do even the slightiest effort to use the say command, but when it comes to appealing their notes/bans they'll write a 20 pages essay with perfect grammar on why they didn't break the rules and why they should be let back into the game.

I also have the feeling this purge will still be going for a while, so we'll have plenty of peanuts to eat for the next couple of days.
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vect0r wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:38 am Yeah, they were a greytiding shit, but when everybody valids you for being a greytiding shit, I wouldn't be motivated to try and RP w/those people. If I went into a phase where I played poorly, and everybody tried to murder me for it for shift after shift, I would be unmotivated and wouldn't LEAVE this phase.
My solution is to give him a new byond account with a note linking him to his old account, and see if they will RP with a new name.
Put it this way, this is a vicious cycle that he caused himself. He should have stepped back and considered his behavior by not trying to do things that would make people want to to valid him.
Like if you don't want people to valid you, maybe don't do things that get people to valid you to begin with?
If you really want to take off the heat, maybe change your name and play differently so that people don't know it's you.
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Lame.
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Remember guys stealing things instead of asking for the will be grounds for a LRP permaban from admin supreme vekter.
Timber I've been slobbing your nob even past the really shitty QC bans come back to the side of holding admins accountable.
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Boot wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:12 am Remember guys stealing things instead of asking for the will be grounds for a LRP permaban from admin supreme vekter.
Timber I've been slobbing your nob even past the really shitty QC bans come back to the side of holding admins accountable.
You really just have no fucking concept of scale, do you?

Doing it sometimes is okay. Doing it literally every round as a proxy reason to cause conflict and get a free fight out of it is not.
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the fact that people will use this as an excuse to shit on vekter specifically, despite the fact that qc bans like this are something no admin would be confident trying to pull off without knowing they can convince a good amount of headmins/other admins, is a great example of why admins dont always have the balls to actually take action on players a lot of the time

(then again i wasnt actually involved in this ban i havent been around as much as i wish lately)
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Vekter wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:22 am
Boot wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:12 am Remember guys stealing things instead of asking for the will be grounds for a LRP permaban from admin supreme vekter.
Timber I've been slobbing your nob even past the really shitty QC bans come back to the side of holding admins accountable.
You really just have no fucking concept of scale, do you?

Doing it sometimes is okay. Doing it literally every round as a proxy reason to cause conflict and get a free fight out of it is not.
This game thrives on conflict. Just being an asshole who hacks doors, steals shit, shoves people over makes the rounds what they are.
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Boot wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:35 am
Vekter wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:22 am
Boot wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:12 am Remember guys stealing things instead of asking for the will be grounds for a LRP permaban from admin supreme vekter.
Timber I've been slobbing your nob even past the really shitty QC bans come back to the side of holding admins accountable.
You really just have no fucking concept of scale, do you?

Doing it sometimes is okay. Doing it literally every round as a proxy reason to cause conflict and get a free fight out of it is not.
This game thrives on conflict. Just being an asshole who hacks doors, steals shit, shoves people over makes the rounds what they are.
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Boot wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:35 am
Vekter wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:22 am
Boot wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:12 am Remember guys stealing things instead of asking for the will be grounds for a LRP permaban from admin supreme vekter.
Timber I've been slobbing your nob even past the really shitty QC bans come back to the side of holding admins accountable.
You really just have no fucking concept of scale, do you?

Doing it sometimes is okay. Doing it literally every round as a proxy reason to cause conflict and get a free fight out of it is not.
This game thrives on conflict. Just being an asshole who hacks doors, steals shit, shoves people over makes the rounds what they are.
You could add "talking" and "not suiciding/going catatonic the second you lose a fight" to that list
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nianjiilical wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:22 am the fact that people will use this as an excuse to shit on vekter specifically
im not trying to shit on vekter if youre refering to me, although I am massively at odds with the reason they are using to ban him, especially given that they literally can find a better one and the one they picked has poor implications for what RP actually is.
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RP is not being Edgemaster "nuthin personally..." Doomman and making every single interaction you have with people a potential fight.
You are not playing the main character in an open world RPG game
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MooCow12 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 5:13 am im not trying to shit on vekter if youre refering to me, although I am massively at odds with the reason they are using to ban him, especially given that they literally can find a better one and the one they picked has poor implications for what RP actually is.
Nobody uses your definition. Nobody. You don't go to an HRP server and see the kind of roleplay you are talking about.
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i can fix him ...
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Lacran wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 5:45 am Nobody uses your definition. Nobody. You don't go to an HRP server and see the kind of roleplay you are talking about.
Well good id hope there wouldnt be any servers that involves everyone acting the same way, having both introvert and extroverts goes a long way to setting a fun environment.
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Archie700 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 5:20 am RP is not being Edgemaster "nuthin personally..." Doomman and making every single interaction you have with people a potential fight.
You are not playing the main character in an open world RPG game
You literally just said roleplaying game game

also i dont know what world you live in where you think people fighting over tools like broke rats are considered "doom man" or "edgemasters" we call those people things but not good things they are assistants, lowest class on the station, use your imagination, they are acting perfectly appropriate for their situation if you take into account real life concepts such as desire and desperation and i think you should move to an nrp server if you cant stop comparing this stuff to doom or some other game.
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