Reider Meza - How I learned to stop worrying and love the Bwoink
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Literally all you have to do is copy and paste what the person said into the adminhelp window. The conversation goes like this 99% of the time:chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 2:08 am No one wants to be the guy who ahelps minor IC OOC, in part because it just annoys admins.
people dont play to ahelp every minor thing that happens especially if it doesnt impact them also snitchesgetstitches…Vekter wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 1:14 pmLiterally all you have to do is copy and paste what the person said into the adminhelp window. The conversation goes like this 99% of the time:chocolate_bickie wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 2:08 am No one wants to be the guy who ahelps minor IC OOC, in part because it just annoys admins.
"Hey, don't talk about [x]/reference [meme] in-character"
"ok"
*place note*
It's not even something we usually ban for unless it's someone's like 5th or 6th offense.
lolTheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 2:03 pm people dont play to ahelp every minor thing that happens especially if it doesnt impact them also snitchesgetstitches…
Normally I agree but this is a fucking video gameTheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 2:03 pm people dont play to ahelp every minor thing that happens especially if it doesnt impact them also snitchesgetstitches…
worst possible take. ahelping something like this takes upwards of ten seconds maximum.TheLoLSwat wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 2:03 pm people dont play to ahelp every minor thing that happens especially if it doesnt impact them also snitchesgetstitches…
I'd love to, but have you heard of rule 5? By the time I know it's greenshit, it's already too late.
"I've only seen the worst of Reider (i.e. his infractions and respective appeals) but I have a perfect picture of who he is"
You're just mad he won your debate.
clutches pearls Tribalism?!1?!?!
But sinful, how can they force their views on LRP if they don't pretend it's all the same?!sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:53 amIt's amazing to me that the instant you sorta fellows hear distinctions about LRP and MRP being made you pearl-clutch about server tribalism
Peak Flivo Convecta hours. Man will straight-up just stand there and watch you get murdered by a traitor as sec.InternJohn wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 8:42 amThere are far too many Sec members that are just plain fucking incompetent
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WELL DON’T JUST FUCKIN SIT THERE, DO SOMETHING! CHRIST IT WAS YOUR LINK!Epicgamer545 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 6:32 pmVekter wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 6:26 pmYou are either not logged in or do not have permission to view this page. This could be because one of the following reasons:Epicgamer545 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 3:53 pm You know, this is unrelated, but this reminds me of this one time…
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I don’t care. I’ll leave you guys to finally discover it or something 6 years into the future.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:33 pmWELL DON’T JUST FUCKIN SIT THERE, DO SOMETHING! CHRIST IT WAS YOUR LINK!Epicgamer545 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 6:32 pmVekter wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 6:26 pmYou are either not logged in or do not have permission to view this page. This could be because one of the following reasons:Epicgamer545 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 3:53 pm You know, this is unrelated, but this reminds me of this one time…
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Can you just screenshot it?Epicgamer545 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:48 pmI don’t care. I’ll leave you guys to finally discover it or something 6 years into the future.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 7:33 pmWELL DON’T JUST FUCKIN SIT THERE, DO SOMETHING! CHRIST IT WAS YOUR LINK!Epicgamer545 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 6:32 pmVekter wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 6:26 pmYou are either not logged in or do not have permission to view this page. This could be because one of the following reasons:Epicgamer545 wrote: ↑Wed May 17, 2023 3:53 pm You know, this is unrelated, but this reminds me of this one time…
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Cope.
I edited in parts of what I've said previously because it directly addresses most of what you are saying, you just chose to ignore it because you're rather strawman than actually have a conversation, it makes sense you'd have common ground with players like Reider.
The issue I'm bringing up is that you are not a representative for security, you can barely engage with another person, let alone represent anyone else. You can say "I play LRP and I like Reider Meza" That's fine, I don't think most people care what you personally want but its fine for you to have an opinion on it. Even the people that are staunchly defending Reider acknlowedge they are a massive shitter than people will lynch on site, that's how bad they are. The person who took them under their wing Scritpis acknlowedges that their progress is insufficient despite their self admitted extremely hands on approach.
You said yourself you're basically just arguing to escape from dealing with something and most of the objections you raised was around you trying to redefine what RP was less that the player met the standards expected. Not exactly an endorsement
HRP Headmin when?Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:36 am Greetings, forum dunces,
If roleplaying were an ocean, you would all be barnacles clinging to the underside of a shipwreck on the seabed. Your disgraceful attempts at immersing yourself in fantasy worlds only serve to cripple the very essence of storytelling.
While others weave elaborate tapestries with their words and craft immersive scenarios capable of inspiring awe, you flounder like sailors tossed into stormy waters without a life vest or proper swimming skills. Each time you "roleplay," it seems as if a group of kindergarteners have taken over your keyboards and are putting on their first performance of Macbeth.
Your characters' nonsensical motivations defy logic and make me wish I could tear my brains out and put an end to this misery. Your dialogue is as bland and unpalatable as overcooked spaghetti served with ketchup instead of marinara sauce.
So please, save yourselves from further embarrassment and leave roleplaying to those who possess even an iota of talent.
Withering disdain,
Armhulen
Translation: stop acting like violent loot goblins. it ain't interesting.Armhulen wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:36 am Greetings, forum dunces,
If roleplaying were an ocean, you would all be barnacles clinging to the underside of a shipwreck on the seabed. Your disgraceful attempts at immersing yourself in fantasy worlds only serve to cripple the very essence of storytelling.
While others weave elaborate tapestries with their words and craft immersive scenarios capable of inspiring awe, you flounder like sailors tossed into stormy waters without a life vest or proper swimming skills. Each time you "roleplay," it seems as if a group of kindergarteners have taken over your keyboards and are putting on their first performance of Macbeth.
Your characters' nonsensical motivations defy logic and make me wish I could tear my brains out and put an end to this misery. Your dialogue is as bland and unpalatable as overcooked spaghetti served with ketchup instead of marinara sauce.
So please, save yourselves from further embarrassment and leave roleplaying to those who possess even an iota of talent.
Withering disdain,
Armhulen
Dear Global Moderator ArmhulenArmhulen wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:36 am Greetings, forum dunces,
If roleplaying were an ocean, you would all be barnacles clinging to the underside of a shipwreck on the seabed. Your disgraceful attempts at immersing yourself in fantasy worlds only serve to cripple the very essence of storytelling.
While others weave elaborate tapestries with their words and craft immersive scenarios capable of inspiring awe, you flounder like sailors tossed into stormy waters without a life vest or proper swimming skills. Each time you "roleplay," it seems as if a group of kindergarteners have taken over your keyboards and are putting on their first performance of Macbeth.
Your characters' nonsensical motivations defy logic and make me wish I could tear my brains out and put an end to this misery. Your dialogue is as bland and unpalatable as overcooked spaghetti served with ketchup instead of marinara sauce.
So please, save yourselves from further embarrassment and leave roleplaying to those who possess even an iota of talent.
Withering disdain,
Armhulen
Fuck I got a whole new lifecycle of laughing at that stupid ass name, thank youFren256 wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 5:46 amDear Global Moderator ArmhulenArmhulen wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:36 am Greetings, forum dunces,
If roleplaying were an ocean, you would all be barnacles clinging to the underside of a shipwreck on the seabed. Your disgraceful attempts at immersing yourself in fantasy worlds only serve to cripple the very essence of storytelling.
While others weave elaborate tapestries with their words and craft immersive scenarios capable of inspiring awe, you flounder like sailors tossed into stormy waters without a life vest or proper swimming skills. Each time you "roleplay," it seems as if a group of kindergarteners have taken over your keyboards and are putting on their first performance of Macbeth.
Your characters' nonsensical motivations defy logic and make me wish I could tear my brains out and put an end to this misery. Your dialogue is as bland and unpalatable as overcooked spaghetti served with ketchup instead of marinara sauce.
So please, save yourselves from further embarrassment and leave roleplaying to those who possess even an iota of talent.
Withering disdain,
Armhulen
You named your human character "Frampt Firstflame" on a MRP round. Because of this terrible action of yours, you unfortunately have no say in this matter. I request that you please refrain from mocking the seven people that discuss the real meaning of RP.
With dismissing regards
Fren256
They don't really have a higher standard of roleplay in the sense of "/me takes a seat" (bar RP is sadly rare, much to the dismay of bartenders), but they tend to have a different standard of gameplay compared to LRP:Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:53 am I hate to bring it up (I don't) but our MRP servers don't have a higher quality of roleplay than our lrp servers. The only difference is restrictions that foster a more conflict averse culture, and blood brothers.
Whenever I hear a player say they represent LRP, it inevitably comes down to the same players who love the bolded issuesRedBaronFlyer wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 3:51 pmThey don't really have a higher standard of roleplay in the sense of "/me takes a seat" (bar RP is sadly rare, much to the dismay of bartenders), but they tend to have a different standard of gameplay compared to LRP:Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:53 am I hate to bring it up (I don't) but our MRP servers don't have a higher quality of roleplay than our lrp servers. The only difference is restrictions that foster a more conflict averse culture, and blood brothers.
- (usually) using words to ask for stuff instead of violently pressing M1 on the door and pointing to what they want like a mute(most of the time)
- less extreme retaliation for slights
- (usually) less destructive sabotage (which some people like and some people don't like that this is the case)
- (less extreme) escalation of IC conflict
- higher coordination in regard to various disasters that can occur
- discouragement of being Greyshit McTider due to how security and the crew as a whole will respond
Results may vary from round to round, There have been some rounds where it's basically just LRP. Obviously, I'm not saying that LRP doesn't have these, but if I were to guess, these are the primary draws of the MRP servers. Manuel's kinda been a bit more LRP than usual this last week, but I'm pretty sure it's because it's now summer break.
I feel like LRP, MRP, and HRP should really be taken more as how people play the game:
LRP: Goofy spessmen sandbox
MRP: Goofy spessmen, but people will try to be a little less silly/murderous and stick to their job role for the shift
HRP: Serious spacemen with a high amount of "/me takes a seat"
The sheer irony in this remark, given how you have ignored all the people sticking up for Reider in this thread, is humorous.
Translation: MRP players are less robust and more cowardly. This is 100% factual (source: trust me bro) and, interestingly, reflected in opinions shared in this thread.Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:53 am I hate to bring it up (I don't) but our MRP servers don't have a higher quality of roleplay than our lrp servers. The only difference is restrictions that foster a more conflict averse culture, and blood brothers.
LRP players like conflict and fighting. This is not news, you did not discover gunpowder. In fact, Rectification pointed it out above.
I have to post a post? Alright here we go I sure hope I do alright:
I've specifically referenced people and their arguements for Reider like how Kendrick spoke about their lynch mob problem and scriptis both defending and acquiescing that they had considerable help and achieved very little improvement.
I almost don't even want to respond to this because it's such an L subject in general, "ERMMM r-ROBUST!!! LOOK how GOOD i can click... tch... kid..." Nerd react cringe subjectekaterina wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 7:17 pmTranslation: MRP players are less robust and more cowardly. This is 100% factual (source: trust me bro) and, interestingly, reflected in opinions shared in this thread.Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:53 am I hate to bring it up (I don't) but our MRP servers don't have a higher quality of roleplay than our lrp servers. The only difference is restrictions that foster a more conflict averse culture, and blood brothers.
As somebody who plays on both Manny and Sybil, I honestly don't know who would win between you or Gaiman, or some other HOS players.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 7:24 amI almost don't even want to respond to this because it's such an L subject in general, "ERMMM r-ROBUST!!! LOOK how GOOD i can click... tch... kid..." Nerd react cringe subjectekaterina wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 7:17 pmTranslation: MRP players are less robust and more cowardly. This is 100% factual (source: trust me bro) and, interestingly, reflected in opinions shared in this thread.Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:53 am I hate to bring it up (I don't) but our MRP servers don't have a higher quality of roleplay than our lrp servers. The only difference is restrictions that foster a more conflict averse culture, and blood brothers.
But you're pretty wrong about this and it's really not a good thing to say. How good you are at the game is mostly a function of hours, not what servers you're on. You have like 500 hours so I reckon you'd get your ass beat by a solid couple dozen Manny players, including some of the HRP catgirls that play there, simply because they have 1000 more hours of experience in the game than you. Don't put a whole server down just because there's one delusional Manny player in the thread
No shit I'm wrong about that, almost as if it's a joke. I thought "source: trust me bro" would make it obvious that it's a joke. The only part of that line that wasn't a joke was the end. Manuel's conflict-averse culture is reflected in the opinions Manuel players are sharing in this thread.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 7:24 amI almost don't even want to respond to this because it's such an L subject in general, "ERMMM r-ROBUST!!! LOOK how GOOD i can click... tch... kid..." Nerd react cringe subjectekaterina wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 7:17 pmTranslation: MRP players are less robust and more cowardly. This is 100% factual (source: trust me bro) and, interestingly, reflected in opinions shared in this thread.Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:53 am I hate to bring it up (I don't) but our MRP servers don't have a higher quality of roleplay than our lrp servers. The only difference is restrictions that foster a more conflict averse culture, and blood brothers.
But you're pretty wrong about this and it's really not a good thing to say. How good you are at the game is mostly a function of hours, not what servers you're on. You have like 500 hours so I reckon you'd get your ass beat by a solid couple dozen Manny players, including some of the HRP catgirls that play there, simply because they have 1000 more hours of experience in the game than you. Don't put a whole server down just because there's one delusional Manny player in the thread
As much as my main static shits on Gaiman IC all the time, he's actually remarkably good at what he does, and I genuinely agree with you.vect0r wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 8:10 amAs somebody who plays on both Manny and Sybil, I honestly don't know who would win between you or Gaiman, or some other HOS players.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 19, 2023 7:24 amI almost don't even want to respond to this because it's such an L subject in general, "ERMMM r-ROBUST!!! LOOK how GOOD i can click... tch... kid..." Nerd react cringe subjectekaterina wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 7:17 pmTranslation: MRP players are less robust and more cowardly. This is 100% factual (source: trust me bro) and, interestingly, reflected in opinions shared in this thread.Itseasytosee2me wrote: ↑Thu May 18, 2023 4:53 am I hate to bring it up (I don't) but our MRP servers don't have a higher quality of roleplay than our lrp servers. The only difference is restrictions that foster a more conflict averse culture, and blood brothers.
But you're pretty wrong about this and it's really not a good thing to say. How good you are at the game is mostly a function of hours, not what servers you're on. You have like 500 hours so I reckon you'd get your ass beat by a solid couple dozen Manny players, including some of the HRP catgirls that play there, simply because they have 1000 more hours of experience in the game than you. Don't put a whole server down just because there's one delusional Manny player in the thread
This isn't going to happen. From what I gather the culture of Manuel is too different from the other servers. The MRP tag, even if it's just on paper, attracts a unique set of players, so if you remove Manuel (and Campbell for that matter), I can bet a good portion of those players will just migrate to other games instead of TG's servers.BlueMemesauce wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 2:44 am I agree with sinfulbliss. The server wasnt always like this excuse isn't an argument to ban reider. Just because a boomer admim wants to bring back things to the way they were in the good old days doesn't mean that can actually happen. Banning everyone who adapted to the new culture just leaves you with a dead server. The people who come to tg for roleplay went to manuel, leaving the non roleplayers to go to terry/sybil. It's obvious that's the root of the problem. If you actually want to bring terry/sybil back to the way they were, remove manuel.
i don't agree with this. i'm a huge roleplay fan and i don't like manuel not because of its community or whatever but because i don't like antag restrictions. i like murderboning and traitors doing whatever they want and not just their objectives, i feel like it's the soul of ss13.BlueMemesauce wrote: ↑Tue May 23, 2023 2:44 amThe people who come to tg for roleplay went to manuel, leaving the non roleplayers to go to terry/sybil.