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viewtopic.php?p=685165#p685165Being asshole is a choice, religion is something that is misused by assholes to justify it. Plenty of indigenous people were killed for irreligious reasons.MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:05 pmReligion is a choice.Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 3:56 pmYou shouldn't be intolerant of peoples religious beliefs mr stoned oneMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 3:50 pmAt college there was this guy in the student leadership who wasn't popular in the normal sense, but was well known and well networked and thought of as a generally wholesome guy.wubli wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:35 pm this reminds me of that guy who was really sweet and wholesome 100 on the forums but then on dms he told me he thought i was mentally ill for liking women "but not a bad person" AND that adopted children aren't real children AND that bisexuals were a threat to his future (biological) son because they may give him aids
there's so many colourful characters on tg
One day he was working the front desk of the college computer repair/help ""shop"" I was the unofficial supervisor of (I was a college student so i couldn't be the real supervisor), and a transwomen i checked in the day before came to pick up her laptop. He tripped over himself for a second but turned his charisma face back on and checked her out without issue, didn't give her shit about her id not matching the file or anything! (I had left a note on the intake form just in case)
Once she left however he opened his mouth and I could never look at him the same way again.
Religion does things to a person. Terrible things.
Fucking brain worms.
It was slightly awkward too because the tech standing next to him was a transman but I was the only one there who knew so I had to hide my cringe.
One that leads to people thinking they are right with god while raping aboriginal children they stole from their parents to "desavage them".
I used to be an atheist edgelord, and then i found out about residential schools. Now I want to seriously ban all religion. Nobody should be allowed to surrender their critical thinking to a higher power.
Sadly most are anti-weed, even those that like drugs prefer shrooms or ayahuasca or something, so there won't be changing of the minds of the stoned one this time around, sinful. It is a foolish endeavor, I say!sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 5:00 pmThat's the nature of any ideology, religion just instantiates that into a spiritual beingMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:49 pmDon't care, Nobody should be allowed to surrender their critical thinking to a higher power.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:40 pm There are bad religious people and there are good religious people. Some people use religion as an excuse to hate, some people use politics, some people use nationality, it really doesn't matter. Don't pick on religion just because some religious people are awful.
It's an incredibly rich, deep sphere of human history and belief and there are a loooot of people way smarter than us that have dedicated their lives to its study and development, so to dismiss it all based on your anecdotal experience of stupid people doing stupid things that happen to also be religious, is shortsighted and kind of obtuse frankly.
Church incense used to be weed smoke.AsbestosSniffer wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 5:07 pmSadly most are anti-weed, even those that like drugs prefer shrooms or ayahuasca or something, so there won't be changing of the minds of the stoned one this time around, sinful. It is a foolish endeavor, I say!sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 5:00 pmThat's the nature of any ideology, religion just instantiates that into a spiritual beingMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:49 pmDon't care, Nobody should be allowed to surrender their critical thinking to a higher power.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:40 pm There are bad religious people and there are good religious people. Some people use religion as an excuse to hate, some people use politics, some people use nationality, it really doesn't matter. Don't pick on religion just because some religious people are awful.
It's an incredibly rich, deep sphere of human history and belief and there are a loooot of people way smarter than us that have dedicated their lives to its study and development, so to dismiss it all based on your anecdotal experience of stupid people doing stupid things that happen to also be religious, is shortsighted and kind of obtuse frankly.
"they can always tell" btw lolMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 3:50 pmOnce she left however he opened his mouth and I could never look at him the same way again.wubli wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 4:35 pm this reminds me of that guy who was really sweet and wholesome 100 on the forums but then on dms he told me he thought i was mentally ill for liking women "but not a bad person" AND that adopted children aren't real children AND that bisexuals were a threat to his future (biological) son because they may give him aids
there's so many colourful characters on tg
Religion does things to a person. Terrible things.
Fucking brain worms.
It was slightly awkward too because the tech standing next to him was a transman but I was the only one there who knew so I had to hide my cringe.
by allowing someone to tell me what i can and can't believe, am i not surrendering my critical thinking to a higher power anyway? being nonreligious has never stopped anyone from being racist/sexist/lgbtq-phobic. some people just use religion as a justification to hold bigoted beliefs.MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:49 pmDon't care, Nobody should be allowed to surrender their critical thinking to a higher power.sinfulbliss wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 4:40 pm There are bad religious people and there are good religious people. Some people use religion as an excuse to hate, some people use politics, some people use nationality, it really doesn't matter. Don't pick on religion just because some religious people are awful.
It's an incredibly rich, deep sphere of human history and belief and there are a loooot of people way smarter than us that have dedicated their lives to its study and development, so to dismiss it all based on your anecdotal experience of stupid people doing stupid things that happen to also be religious, is shortsighted and kind of obtuse frankly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocideMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 8:41 pm ok and?
Resident schools wasn't just 1 person. there were countless staff who all stood by and did nothing because the man of god told them to.
Religion was created to control, created to brainwash, and it can not be allowed to exist.
Not really posting at the people I'm quoting but this line makes me so upset.
So is black, what? You think Yorubas are the same as the Khoisan? It'd be a mouthful to say "Yoruba, Igbo, Kongo, Khoisan, Zulu, etc etc Lives Matter" and it's the same with "whites", it'd be a mouthful to say "Oh Irish, Italian, Spanish, English ,Welsh, etc etc lives matter" and so on, people have these broad categories because it makes things easier for the average person. That includes when it comes to hatred. A white nationalist ain't gonna check if you're a Tutsi or a Hutu before he discriminates you against being black and neither will the anti-white check if you're Italian or English before he does the same.TheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 10:45 pmNot really posting at the people I'm quoting but this line makes me so upset.
White is a spook people falling for it makes me so mad I stg.
It's only a classifier in that it groups people who used to be minorities but became a part of the larger group over time. It's as useful as calling people mutt, but based off skin color.
Stop letting 4chan ops, truisms and scientific/religious racism define your identity. It's maddening.
There are plenty of atrocities committed by those with more atheistic tendencies as well, unless you think men like Stalin were tried-and-true churchgoers who had chapels built in their Dacha.MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 8:41 pm ok and?
Resident schools wasn't just 1 person. there were countless staff who all stood by and did nothing because the man of god told them to.
Religion was created to control, created to brainwash, and it can not be allowed to exist.
U right, and?AsbestosSniffer wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 12:10 am So is black, what? ..., people have these broad categories because it makes things easier for the average person. That includes when it comes to hatred. A white nationalist ain't gonna check if you're a Tutsi or a Hutu before he discriminates you against being black and neither will the anti-white check if you're Italian or English before he does the same.
I’m so confused and gay nowwubli wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 6:42 pm "they can always tell" btw lol
I can't imagine how shitty it must've been for the trans guy. testosterone works a lot faster in terms of body changes so trans men probably get this
a lot
it's getting worse though because even religious people can simply not give a fuck. being loudly homophobic or transphobic is a choice, I'd dare to say without any sources that most people just don't give a fuck what others do, even if they don't understand it. because why would you?
they like to pretend that kids will get confused as if children weren't the most likely to be accepting. every story you hear of someone explaining to a kid why that other child has two moms is "Ok cool" and not "I'm so confused I'm gay now !!!"
this is why sinful doesn't talk in vc...
Reminds me I need to post my ban appeal from discord for denying the uyghur genocideSuper Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 10:39 pmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocideMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 8:41 pm ok and?
Resident schools wasn't just 1 person. there were countless staff who all stood by and did nothing because the man of god told them to.
Religion was created to control, created to brainwash, and it can not be allowed to exist.
i'm mentally dillCobby wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 5:11 pm I dont think its bigoted to say you disagree with the idea the term "trans rights" is (1:1 synonymous with) "human rights", assuming thats what he was being contentious with and theres nothing damning outside of the context posted. If they were you wouldnt exactly need to make the distinction to begin with or frame it in such a way thats distinctly different from "trans people deserve human rights too".
Doubly so when the posted context looks like the individual he is talking to is trying to get an own on him.
The mentally ill remark from the screenshot would have made more sense to post i think.
It's inappropriate specialization and you know it. Its like fixing a bug that applies to all atmos calls, but only when called on renforced tiles. You can do better and you fucking know it.TheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:01 am
The phrase strikes me as at best a defense from what I think is a nearly non-existent threat,
[...]
(I have done some research and come to the horrifying conclusion that this is still a thing people post about like, in real life. I thought White Lives Matter died in 2016 after those poster planting ops or whatever. Depression)
the point of calling for an end of police brutality against black people is because black people are commonly the victims of said police brutality and mistreatmentMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:19 pm Why end police brutality against black people when you can end it against all people?
Did you even read the post you're replying to?kinnebian wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:57 pm the point of calling for an end of police brutality against black people is because black people are commonly the victims of said police brutality and mistreatment
you dont see anyone waving a sign around to end police brutality against white people because there isnt a common, repeated trope of police brutality and mistreatment against white people
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:19 pm Its like fixing a bug that applies to all atmos calls, but only when called on [floor tiles, the most common type of tile and thus the place where the bug would take place the most.
was trying to say whatever but miracles said what i wanted to say anywaysekaterina wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 10:26 amDid you even read the post you're replying to?kinnebian wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:57 pm the point of calling for an end of police brutality against black people is because black people are commonly the victims of said police brutality and mistreatment
you dont see anyone waving a sign around to end police brutality against white people because there isnt a common, repeated trope of police brutality and mistreatment against white people
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:19 pm Its like fixing a bug that applies to all atmos calls, but only when called on [floor tiles, the most common type of tile and thus the place where the bug would take place the most.
Nope, white people still make up a majority of people killed by police while not being an aggressor. its just that the number for black people is 3 times higher then it should be if it was proportional.kinnebian wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 11:57 pmthe point of calling for an end of police brutality against black people is because black people are commonly the victims of said police brutality and mistreatmentMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2023 9:19 pm Why end police brutality against black people when you can end it against all people?
you dont see anyone waving a sign around to end police brutality against white people because there isnt a common, repeated trope of police brutality and mistreatment against white people
Coward.WineAllWine wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 5:44 pm You're right, this was wildly unprofessional of me and I apologise
Oppression olympics are for brainworms.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:37 pm " The bottom 20% of white people by income have a higher likely of getting killed by police brutality then the top 40% of black people." is not the slam-dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement you think it is dude.
MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 4:17 pm Its almost like focusing only on the majority (of victims) is bad, and any solution has to be all encompassing and inclusive.
But since you want a slam dunk argument against the black lives matters movement, i need only point to the time they marched on stage and stole the mic from somebody because they didn't like that person's skin color and gender and age.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:37 pm " The bottom 20% of white people by income have a higher likely of getting killed by police brutality then the top 40% of black people." is not the slam-dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement you think it is dude.
Those people are far from representing the whole movement your Stoney one.MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:33 pmBut since you want a slam dunk argument against the black lives matters movement, i need only point to the time they marched on stage and stole the mic from somebody because they didn't like that person's skin color and gender and age.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:37 pm " The bottom 20% of white people by income have a higher likely of getting killed by police brutality then the top 40% of black people." is not the slam-dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement you think it is dude.
I don't give a flying fuck what their excuse is, I will never show support towards people who show hostility towards my race and gender, "privilege" bullshit be damned.
Just summarizing your standpoint, would slightly revising this asMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:33 pm I will never show support towards people who show hostility towards my race and gender
No.Scriptis wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:57 pmJust summarizing your standpoint, would slightly revising this asMrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:33 pm I will never show support towards people who show hostility towards my race and gender
"I will never show support to anybody who shows hostility towards any race or gender?"
sum up your view shared in this thread so far?
First: thank you for the in-depth response.MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:08 pmNo.
I don't understand why people can't grasp this.
I will always react more strongly and more negatively towards hostile towards my race and gender then others.
I hate both, but i hate hostility towards characteristics I personally share significantly more.
I would expect an asian woman to care significantly more about hostility towards asian women compared to how much as they care about hostility towards white or black men or women. Why do people get surprised when I say I care about bigotry against my own race and gender than others.
Empathy means looking at how I feel when subjected to bigotry to and deciding i want to end it for all people. Which is why I feel even more betrayed when I find out the equality movements i backed wants to find excuses to exclude me and my characteristics from protections against bigotry, if not actively perpetuate the bigotry against me and my characteristics directly.
I agree with this wholeheartedly, but I haven't had this happen to me personally. Are you comfortable on sharing what specifically happened to lead to this viewpoint? I don't want this happening to me.MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 8:08 pm ... the equality movements i backed wants to find excuses to exclude me and my characteristics from protections against bigotry, if not actively perpetuate the bigotry against me and my characteristics directly.
Different people are different actuallyTheFinalPotato wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 10:45 pmNot really posting at the people I'm quoting but this line makes me so upset.
White is a spook people falling for it makes me so mad I stg.
It's only a classifier in that it groups people who used to be minorities but became a part of the larger group over time. It's as useful as calling people mutt, but based off skin color.
Stop letting 4chan ops, truisms and scientific/religious racism define your identity. It's maddening.
This isn't a slam dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement or slogan either and the fact that you think it is is confusing.MrStonedOne wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 7:33 pmBut since you want a slam dunk argument against the black lives matters movement, i need only point to the time they marched on stage and stole the mic from somebody because they didn't like that person's skin color and gender and age.Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2023 6:37 pm " The bottom 20% of white people by income have a higher likely of getting killed by police brutality then the top 40% of black people." is not the slam-dunk argument against the Black Lives Matter movement you think it is dude.
I don't give a flying fuck what their excuse is, I will never show support towards people who show hostility towards my race and gender, "privilege" bullshit be damned.