dawn of the second day peanut
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 5:55 pm
I'll be damned; Internet Gaming Disorder is a real thing now!
It's basically a gambling addiction/impulsive behavior disorder, and it's only a disorder when it fucks up your life.Wikipedia wrote: The APA has developed nine criteria for characterizing the proposed Internet Gaming Disorder: [9]
1. Pre-occupation. Do you spend a lot of time thinking about games even when you are not playing, or planning when you can play next?
2. Withdrawal. Do you feel restless, irritable, moody, angry, anxious or sad when attempting to cut down or stop gaming, or when you are unable to play?
3. Tolerance. Do you feel the need to play for increasing amounts of time, play more exciting games, or use more powerful equipment to get the same amount of excitement you used to get?
4. Reduce/stop. Do you feel that you should play less, but are unable to cut back on the amount of time you spend playing games?
5. Give up other activities. Do you lose interest in or reduce participation in other recreational activities due to gaming?
6. Continue despite problems. Do you continue to play games even though you are aware of negative consequences, such as not getting enough sleep, being late to school/work, spending too much money, having arguments with others, or neglecting important duties?
7. Deceive/cover up. Do you lie to family, friends or others about how much you game, or try to keep your family or friends from knowing how much you game?
8. Escape adverse moods. Do you game to escape from or forget about personal problems, or to relieve uncomfortable feelings such as guilt, anxiety, helplessness or depression?
9. Risk/lose relationships/opportunities. Do you risk or lose significant relationships, or job, educational or career opportunities because of gaming?
I mean, the list you posted pretty much covers it. Did you lose opportunities from it? get distanced by loved ones? If not you're just running on cost of opportunity to doing things on your own, like, idk, playing the harp. And that's fine I think, since it's the choice you're making.
absolutely all of this and what brick postedconrad wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:17 pm This is honestly compounded by the combination of the original ban being placed at 2 am, and that being "allocated SS13 time".
I do sincerely hope they're taking care of themselves.
I mean, the list you posted pretty much covers it. Did you lose opportunities from it? get distanced by loved ones? If not you're just running on cost of opportunity to doing things on your own, like, idk, playing the harp. And that's fine I think, since it's the choice you're making.
My day job is research and development into accelerating foundational machine learning stuff and I'm moving to Portugal.conrad wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:17 pm I mean, the list you posted pretty much covers it. Did you lose opportunities from it? get distanced by loved ones? If not you're just running on cost of opportunity to doing things on your own, like, idk, playing the harp. And that's fine I think, since it's the choice you're making.
I was completely fucking addicted to SS13 a few years back, and the addiction led to me learning the basics of programming/coding so I could spite code IPCs to a tg fork to recreate them with my own vision of balance.Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:31 pm The secret sauce? Find the part of your addiction that builds a useful skill while still being fun and that engages you with a community of like-minded people that support you.
I really liked reading this. This is awesome dude. Best of luck and godspeed on your move and whatever new endavours you face.Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:31 pmMy day job is research and development into accelerating foundational machine learning stuff and I'm moving to Portugal.conrad wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:17 pm I mean, the list you posted pretty much covers it. Did you lose opportunities from it? get distanced by loved ones? If not you're just running on cost of opportunity to doing things on your own, like, idk, playing the harp. And that's fine I think, since it's the choice you're making.
The secret sauce? Find the part of your addiction that builds a useful skill while still being fun and that engages you with a community of like-minded people that support you.
'cuz, y'know, video games aren't like traditional addictions. There's stuff under the hood you can mess with. You can't really learn anything productive from crack cocaine. And it's better to get started learning how to fix your car before you try to fix a jet engine!Spoiler:
That said if you never get under the hood then it's probably bad for you
Scriptis, please ban this man again. He is taking the game way to far, and im concerned about his well being. He said he takes Adderall to click better, like honestly I am concerned.
What is expression 2?Scriptis wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:31 pmMy day job is research and development into accelerating foundational machine learning stuff and I'm moving to Portugal.conrad wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:17 pm I mean, the list you posted pretty much covers it. Did you lose opportunities from it? get distanced by loved ones? If not you're just running on cost of opportunity to doing things on your own, like, idk, playing the harp. And that's fine I think, since it's the choice you're making.
The secret sauce? Find the part of your addiction that builds a useful skill while still being fun and that engages you with a community of like-minded people that support you.
'cuz, y'know, video games aren't like traditional addictions. There's stuff under the hood you can mess with. You can't really learn anything productive from crack cocaine. And it's better to get started learning how to fix your car before you try to fix a jet engine!Spoiler:
That said if you never get under the hood then it's probably bad for you
did you read my first post? the WHO recognizes the existence of compulsive disorders directly related to gaming (read: video game addiction)dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:22 am Furthermore what is this stuff about videogaming addiction. Alcoholics literally die if they quit cold turkey. Gamblers lose their homes because every time they pull the lever it costs money and the games have house advantage built in. You people are addicted to a video game that's free. Your worst case scenario is that you're mismanaging your time.
https://youtu.be/DwBebtcx-Y0
Boo this man!Scriptis wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:27 amdid you read my first post? the WHO recognizes the existence of compulsive disorders directly related to gaming (read: video game addiction) as a compulsive disorderdirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:22 am Furthermore what is this stuff about videogaming addiction. Alcoholics literally die if they quit cold turkey. Gamblers lose their homes because every time they pull the lever it costs money and the games have house advantage built in. You people are addicted to a video game that's free. Your worst case scenario is that you're mismanaging your time.
https://youtu.be/DwBebtcx-Y0
we're not talking about time wasting. we're talking about people who play video games 18 hours per day and then lose their homes because they stop paying rent
time wasting isn't a disorder (stop booing me)
What a rancid, uninformed take. At worst parents don't feed their children and they starve to death.dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:22 am Furthermore what is this stuff about videogaming addiction. Alcoholics literally die if they quit cold turkey. Gamblers lose their homes because every time they pull the lever it costs money and the games have house advantage built in. You people are addicted to a video game that's free. Your worst case scenario is that you're mismanaging your time.
https://youtu.be/DwBebtcx-Y0
Anybody can stop feeding their children you don't have to be addicted to gaming to do that. No child has been born with fetal gaming syndrome. Alcoholism and drug addictions have fetal consequences, higher risks of cancer, and a whole plethora of health effects caused by the substances themselves which make a gaming addiction a joke in comparison.conrad wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:35 amWhat a rancid, uninformed take. At worst parents don't feed their children and they starve to death.dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:22 am Furthermore what is this stuff about videogaming addiction. Alcoholics literally die if they quit cold turkey. Gamblers lose their homes because every time they pull the lever it costs money and the games have house advantage built in. You people are addicted to a video game that's free. Your worst case scenario is that you're mismanaging your time.
https://youtu.be/DwBebtcx-Y0
Why are you taking life-destroying habits and making a competition of which is worse?dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:10 amAnybody can stop feeding their children you don't have to be addicted to gaming to do that. No child has been born with fetal gaming syndrome. Alcoholism and drug addictions have fetal consequences, higher risks of cancer, and a whole plethora of health effects caused by the substances themselves which make a gaming addiction a joke in comparison.conrad wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:35 amWhat a rancid, uninformed take. At worst parents don't feed their children and they starve to death.dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:22 am Furthermore what is this stuff about videogaming addiction. Alcoholics literally die if they quit cold turkey. Gamblers lose their homes because every time they pull the lever it costs money and the games have house advantage built in. You people are addicted to a video game that's free. Your worst case scenario is that you're mismanaging your time.
https://youtu.be/DwBebtcx-Y0
Why did the first team climb everest? I mean, not now. Nowadays Everest is just an expensive tourist trap where the sherpas do all the work for you. But there's a worst habit out there, somewhere. And somebody will find it.conrad wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:18 amWhy are you taking life-destroying habits and making a competition of which is worse?dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:10 amAnybody can stop feeding their children you don't have to be addicted to gaming to do that. No child has been born with fetal gaming syndrome. Alcoholism and drug addictions have fetal consequences, higher risks of cancer, and a whole plethora of health effects caused by the substances themselves which make a gaming addiction a joke in comparison.conrad wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:35 amWhat a rancid, uninformed take. At worst parents don't feed their children and they starve to death.dirk_mcblade wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:22 am Furthermore what is this stuff about videogaming addiction. Alcoholics literally die if they quit cold turkey. Gamblers lose their homes because every time they pull the lever it costs money and the games have house advantage built in. You people are addicted to a video game that's free. Your worst case scenario is that you're mismanaging your time.
https://youtu.be/DwBebtcx-Y0