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ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:43 am
by iansdoor
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I am not sure about what Anne's intention was. I do know* from experience, Lirvah has no formal English training.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:03 pm
by WineAllWine
I don't know what Livrah was doing on Manny, were they lost?

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:11 pm
by Turbonerd
Merchant shill owned. Dude was whining about getting banned on discord. Funny how he was basically asking for the ban in game.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:37 pm
by WineAllWine
actually having read the note Livrah is entirely correct here, it's not at all obvious that this is an MRP ban

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:48 pm
by Constellado
Atleast the admin put a tldr.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:01 pm
by Sk1Wass3r
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Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:02 pm
by Voudez
Ngl I would catch heart attack if I somehow manage to get same EVIL essay

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:10 pm
by iansdoor
Sk1Wass3r wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:01 pm Image
Honestly, that picture is missing the pointers. Is pointing not valid from my own meme? Yeah, the RP is a bit low on the totem pole. Pointing does a service when you can't write long English emotes of *boris holds up one finger and then moves his hands around his waist and flickers an imaginary welder. he points at the thieving Warden*
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Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:12 pm
by Voudez
Voudez wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:02 pm Ngl I would catch heart attack if I somehow manage to get same EVIL essay
I mean, dud just wanted to swap note's server appearance, not keep goin to argue about it

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:15 pm
by RedBaronFlyer
Oooooh so that might by why Livrah made this post.

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Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:20 pm
by Archie700
WineAllWine wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:37 pm actually having read the note Livrah is entirely correct here, it's not at all obvious that this is an MRP ban
Breaking into the armoury and then shooting at the warden with lethals, in response to your toolbelt being confiscated and not returned can get you bwoinked on the LRP server.

Though usually the punishment is basically IC resolution of being killed.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:31 pm
by NecromancerAnne
Constellado wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:48 pm Atleast the admin put a tldr.
That's more for his sake. Shorter responses to get to the point for him to response to.

The big essay is more to explain my reasoning that would have gone into a normal ticket process but it's not terribly fair on him to have to deal with that while his english isn't the best.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:38 pm
by iansdoor
Archie700 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:20 pm
WineAllWine wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:37 pm actually having read the note Livrah is entirely correct here, it's not at all obvious that this is an MRP ban
Breaking into the armoury and then shooting at the warden with lethals, in response to your toolbelt being confiscated and not returned can get you bwoinked on the LRP server.

Though usually the punishment is basically IC resolution of being killed.
Honestly, if that was said in the reply to him either in towering ahelp or essay post. Alot of the ESL hobby miscommunication would be cleared up.
If you throw LRP wardens into the mix, they would absolutely not care and give back his stuff. All paths of security leads to death anyways.
Regardless, He didn't want to contest the note value, just where it is from, where RR1 is king? Pointing is valid option of communication, unless that was forgotten or someone figured how to move and quickly type all in one go. His actions at the armory, were lack luster, hence the ban.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:43 pm
by kieth4
Archie700 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:20 pm
WineAllWine wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:37 pm actually having read the note Livrah is entirely correct here, it's not at all obvious that this is an MRP ban
Breaking into the armoury and then shooting at the warden with lethals, in response to your toolbelt being confiscated and not returned can get you bwoinked on the LRP server.

Though usually the punishment is basically IC resolution of being killed.
why is the warden taking homies loot

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:44 pm
by conrad
All this ESL peddling when people are missing the point that all he wants is the note amended to say it took place on Manuel rather than the ban lifted or justified.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:51 pm
by Scriptis
jesus christ the sheer SIZE of that admin response

PLEASE keep it concise

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:59 pm
by Archie700
kieth4 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:43 pm
Archie700 wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:20 pm
WineAllWine wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:37 pm actually having read the note Livrah is entirely correct here, it's not at all obvious that this is an MRP ban
Breaking into the armoury and then shooting at the warden with lethals, in response to your toolbelt being confiscated and not returned can get you bwoinked on the LRP server.

Though usually the punishment is basically IC resolution of being killed.
why is the warden taking homies loot
That I do not know why, by all rights his toolbelt should have been returned.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 2:29 pm
by NecromancerAnne
The warden was very much in the wrong in this situation as well by the by. This was really a mess that could have been avoided.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:52 pm
by dendydoom
the essayposter's guild sends its regards

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 4:34 pm
by TypicalRig
Like 75% of this interaction could've been solved from more communication. Albeit when you throw in a mute role, a non-native English speaker, a warden that confiscates too many items, and a dude that's clearly exhausted from being bwoinked, it's kind of a recipe for disaster.

But yeah, him attacking the warden with lethals over this in the armory wouldn't have passed on LRP either, so no clue why he wasted his own time having the note amended to just the server.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 5:21 pm
by EmpressMaia
I was the warden in this situation and I don't remember why I didn't give the toolbelt back, I think I just forgot because livrah went SSD or something and I chucked him out of the brig. I remember him coming to me ans pointing at something but I didn't know what he was trying to convey and he left

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:06 pm
by Pepper
Did anyone even die in this situation?

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:39 pm
by EmpressMaia
Pepper wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:06 pm Did anyone even die in this situation?
I think I killed the mime I'm unsure

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:48 pm
by dirk_mcblade
That response was way out of line Anne. Livrah just wanted you to change the note to Manuel (which is a factual inaccuracy) and get back to grinding SS13 for $150/mo. Do you expect him to put that text tower into Google translate or something? He probably didn't even see the tldr and you probably successfully cordoned him back into the LRP servers since I doubt he's going to risk a revenue source. Mostly I think you just spent your own time unnecessarily.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:50 pm
by oranges
We got the fastest code development?

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:55 pm
by dirk_mcblade
Does livrah know he can write sentences on paper as a mime or is thar against the rules now too?

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:15 pm
by saprasam
1k word essay response to an appeal
come on man

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:26 pm
by oranges
why was livrah even on manuel in the first place

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:06 pm
by AnonymousForumUser
everybody on terry gets a small cut as long as we follow the script
we are being replaced by cheaper non-unionized laborers

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:08 pm
by Kendrickorium
Sk1Wass3r wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:01 pm Image
fuck me that's funny

i don't understand the thread title so i'll allow guest judges here

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:19 pm
by Indie-ana Jones
If the warden shot him first, how is he even in the wrong here anyway?

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:20 pm
by dirk_mcblade
Kendrickorium wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:08 pm
Sk1Wass3r wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:01 pm Image
fuck me that's funny

i don't understand the thread title so i'll allow guest judges here
Better than Kendrick's peanut titles / 10

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:25 pm
by conrad
Kendrickorium wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:08 pm i don't understand the thread title so i'll allow guest judges here
I rate this thread title one confused Kendrick laughing at a mcdonalds drive thru meme/10

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:26 pm
by Kendrickorium
dirk_mcblade wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:20 pm
Kendrickorium wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:08 pm
Sk1Wass3r wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 1:01 pm Image
fuck me that's funny

i don't understand the thread title so i'll allow guest judges here
Better than Kendrick's peanut titles / 10
okay buddy you arent allowed to guest judge for a month

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:54 pm
by Shellton(Mario)
dirk_mcblade wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:55 pm Does livrah know he can write sentences on paper as a mime or is thar against the rules now too?
They codified it so mimes cant write
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Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:31 pm
by Timberpoes
Shellton(Mario) wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:54 pm
dirk_mcblade wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:55 pm Does livrah know he can write sentences on paper as a mime or is thar against the rules now too?
They codified it so mimes cant write
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I'd have to check but last term MSO did a server side code override to allow mimes to write without breaking their vow of silence. Is that screenshot from a recent tg shift?

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:47 pm
by DATAxPUNGED
Timberpoes wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:31 pm
Shellton(Mario) wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:54 pm
dirk_mcblade wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:55 pm Does livrah know he can write sentences on paper as a mime or is thar against the rules now too?
They codified it so mimes cant write
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I'd have to check but last term MSO did a server side code override to allow mimes to write without breaking their vow of silence. Is that screenshot from a recent tg shift?
iirc, you can write on paper normally as always, but it will pop up that message anyways

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:00 pm
by oranges
mso's code override is kind of buggy, which is to be expected of a code override

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:02 pm
by dirk_mcblade
Shellton(Mario) wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:54 pm
dirk_mcblade wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:55 pm Does livrah know he can write sentences on paper as a mime or is thar against the rules now too?
They codified it so mimes cant write
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Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:09 pm
by Shellton(Mario)
Timberpoes wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 9:31 pm
Shellton(Mario) wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 8:54 pm
dirk_mcblade wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 6:55 pm Does livrah know he can write sentences on paper as a mime or is thar against the rules now too?
They codified it so mimes cant write
code.PNG
I'd have to check but last term MSO did a server side code override to allow mimes to write without breaking their vow of silence. Is that screenshot from a recent tg shift?
Yes

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:16 am
by RedBaronFlyer
oranges wrote: Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:26 pm why was livrah even on manuel in the first place
Probably to have some less chaotic rounds since that's something he talked about in a community post on his youtube channel (which seemingly happened the day of him getting a note)

The only time I saw him that wasn't during Dynamic's "clusterfuck 60+ threat every round gangbang" in early September was when fishing was bugged and he caught three goldfish, still got the legendary angler hat though.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:23 am
by Timonk
Can we get livrahs emote chat logs in here

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:34 am
by NoxVS
Timonk wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:23 am Can we get livrahs emote chat logs in here
Emote Logs
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Emote Logs Minus Coughing and Sneezing
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Emote Logs Minus Coughing, Sneezing, and Pointing
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Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 5:17 am
by EmpressMaia
This is why mimes shouldn't be allowed to go near security

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:41 am
by junkgle
what a fucking brick of a reply

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:45 am
by RedBaronFlyer
Can we have a rule preventing admins from essay posting in ban appeals similar to the thing where someone tried having a rule preventing ban appealers from essay posting?

Why on earth would you essay post to a non-native English-speaking Russian? Good lord.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:41 am
by WineAllWine
RedBaronFlyer wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:45 am Can we have a rule preventing admins from essay posting in ban appeals similar to the thing where someone tried having a rule preventing ban appealers from essay posting?

Why on earth would you essay post to a non-native English-speaking Russian? Good lord.
I had a headmin manifesto stopping essay posting. The tldr redeems it I guess.

But why the hell isn't this just "yeah ill add (MRP) to the note"

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:20 am
by Timonk
i love how livrah did not emote anything not accessible by hotkeys (except "fells to sleep" for some reason)

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:06 pm
by dirk_mcblade
WineAllWine wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:41 am
RedBaronFlyer wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:45 am Can we have a rule preventing admins from essay posting in ban appeals similar to the thing where someone tried having a rule preventing ban appealers from essay posting?

Why on earth would you essay post to a non-native English-speaking Russian? Good lord.
I had a headmin manifesto stopping essay posting. The tldr redeems it I guess.

But why the hell isn't this just "yeah ill add (MRP) to the note"
The admin got star struck.

Re: ESL hobby tested through midterms

Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:11 pm
by Fikou
Timonk wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:20 am i love how livrah did not emote anything not accessible by hotkeys (except "fells to sleep" for some reason)
incorrect the emotes dont have a dot at the end so they were typed manually instead of using the emote system