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mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:26 pm
by nianjiilical
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/81231

god i hope this works out better than thief i love the idea of just getting random syndicate items and trying to figure out how to cause problems with them

also maybe the black market will be worth using more

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:28 pm
by Jacquerel
I like antagonists who can't greentext

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:36 pm
by ekaterina
Policy implications? Full antag or no?

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:57 pm
by Jacquerel
ekaterina wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:36 pm Policy implications? Full antag or no?
"What level of antag is this?" is answered in the PR text (compared with pre-prog traitor)

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:11 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
looks like it will be very funny. Making the stolen items possible to buy back is inspired.

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:41 pm
by warbluke
I wish you had to smuggle out items instead of just tapping them with your spy PDA. Like put a beacon on them and throw them into space or something. Other than that no complaints 10/10 would play every round for the joy of stealing.

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:58 pm
by zxaber
It'd be neat if you had to tap the bounty teleporter with your PDA to "corrupt its destination coordinates" so that it would teleport your item to the syndicate, and then revert to normal after.

I guess they'd be too obvious if no one else is doing twenty bounties though.

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:03 pm
by Jacquerel
warbluke wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:41 pm I wish you had to smuggle out items instead of just tapping them with your spy PDA. Like put a beacon on them and throw them into space or something. Other than that no complaints 10/10 would play every round for the joy of stealing.
I sympathise with this but this method is incompatible with stealing large objects which are bolted to the ground, which is incredibly funny

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:22 pm
by PapaMichael
Jacquerel wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:03 pm
warbluke wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 4:41 pm I wish you had to smuggle out items instead of just tapping them with your spy PDA. Like put a beacon on them and throw them into space or something. Other than that no complaints 10/10 would play every round for the joy of stealing.
I sympathise with this but this method is incompatible with stealing large objects which are bolted to the ground, which is incredibly funny
Counterpoint: a guy running around unwrenching and shoving fax machines into space would be very funny

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:25 pm
by Justice12354
This looks like a cool antag
ekaterina wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:36 pm Policy implications? Full antag or no?
Depends on what the Headmins rule when it's merged.

But, given the objectives/rewards I'm seeing, it'll most likely be a full antag. Imagine being given a box of C4s and not being allowed to use them lmao

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:27 pm
by Cheshify
I wish I would have been given a greater heads up about this.
Sounds like a full antag to me

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:29 pm
by chocolate_bickie
Jacquerel wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:57 pm
ekaterina wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 3:36 pm Policy implications? Full antag or no?
"What level of antag is this?" is answered in the PR text (compared with pre-prog traitor)
I believe the codebase and administration are seperate so that's not really something for the coder to decide.

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:39 pm
by Jacquerel
That is true it is merely an intention

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 6:48 pm
by PapaMichael
Although you can't actually greentext on them, the objectives are very much so "full antag"
Image
(full file)

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 7:10 pm
by TheLoLSwat
so like solo bb with a smidge of contractor


neat

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 8:43 pm
by kieth4
looks super fun and promising good job

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 11:42 pm
by DrAmazing343
I’m hype as shit for mentlegentag

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:32 am
by TheFinalPotato
Cheshify wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:27 pm I wish I would have been given a greater heads up about this.
Sounds like a full antag to me
I don't understand it's not merged, do you mean for tm?

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:37 am
by Cheshify
TheFinalPotato wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:32 am
Cheshify wrote: Fri Feb 02, 2024 5:27 pm I wish I would have been given a greater heads up about this.
Sounds like a full antag to me
I don't understand it's not merged, do you mean for tm?
Yeah

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:45 am
by TheFinalPotato
It hasn't been tho, right?

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 12:54 am
by Timonk
speedmerge

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2024 1:29 pm
by kinnebian
oh my god this look overwhelmingly perfect

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:44 am
by celularLAmp
Waiting for security to gun down tiders because they could be spies

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:01 pm
by RedBaronFlyer
Spies should be able to chainsmoke.

Image

God, this image makes me feel old.

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:04 pm
by dendydoom
RedBaronFlyer wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:01 pm Spies should be able to chainsmoke.

God, this image makes me feel old.
knowing what it references makes me feel even older...
NSFW:
Image

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:11 pm
by TheLoLSwat
dendydoom wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:04 pm
RedBaronFlyer wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:01 pm Spies should be able to chainsmoke.

God, this image makes me feel old.
knowing what it references makes me feel even older...
NSFW:
Image
huh i never knew that was from simpsons i always thought the spy doing it was the original

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:27 pm
by Vekter
The idea of a clown desperately trying to raise enough credits to buy their leg back has me rolling, I need this now

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:54 pm
by Timonk
Vekter wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:27 pm The idea of a clown desperately trying to raise enough credits to buy their leg back has me rolling, I need this now
usually you just go to robotics and get augmented legs

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:32 pm
by DrAmazing343
TESTMERGES ARE HAPPENING and it's been quiet. The spies are spying. I saw a clown's horn immediately on the black market, but need to instacraft more soon to see. It's fun, though, seeing someone have a REAL KATANA and then get owned by sec

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:24 pm
by Vekter
Timonk wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:54 pm
Vekter wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 8:27 pm The idea of a clown desperately trying to raise enough credits to buy their leg back has me rolling, I need this now
usually you just go to robotics and get augmented legs
Yeah, but this is funny.

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:49 am
by TheLoLSwat
just played spy today and its fun but the random items blow cock and balls lowkey. There should be more gadget-gadgets available and not a damn blast cannon like come on

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:33 pm
by PapaMichael
it's good.
lolswat is lolwrong, the random items, having to choose which items to go for, and using those items to improvise whatever plot you're cooking is fun

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 2:17 am
by TheLoLSwat
PapaMichael wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:33 pm it's good.
lolswat is lolwrong
yea you cooked with that i cant even hate Image

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:08 am
by DrAmazing343
The items being random does lead to a lot more creativity on antag side, as well as reducing the amount of adherance to a "meta" in antag items, as you'll be fighting with other spies (in a perfect world) for the items to make YOUR meta build if you want it to happen at all. If the items weren't random, spies would not be a low-impact antag as they're intended to be at the moment. Though, it's still hilarious how much busted shit a spy can get anyway depending on their own access and the random factor of it.

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:45 pm
by Higgin
PapaMichael wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:33 pm it's good.
lolswat is lolwrong, the random items, having to choose which items to go for, and using those items to improvise whatever plot you're cooking is fun
preach

the broader range of target items (and an actual use for the black market to try to get them back) rocks too

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:35 am
by Constellado
I got spy once and I like it. (Even if it was a gimmick map that half plasma flooded in minute 5)

It feels like pre-progtot in the best ways. Les keep it

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:38 am
by dendydoom
Constellado wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:35 am I got spy once and I like it. (Even if it was a gimmick map that half plasma flooded in minute 5)

It feels like pre-progtot in the best ways. Les keep it
the events on 4dstation are top secret ultraviolet clearance, employee 648731

your sector co-ordinates have been logged and a re-education shuttle has been dispatched to dock with your site. please remain stationary throughout the retraining process.

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:54 am
by DrAmazing343
I got spy once and I like it. (Even if it was a gimmick map that half plasma flooded in minute 5)

It feels like pre-prog-

Wait, something's not right. I'm supposed to be posting five minutes from now, where am I?

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:51 am
by Constellado
dendydoom wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:38 am
Constellado wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 12:35 am I got spy once and I like it. (Even if it was a gimmick map that half plasma flooded in minute 5)

It feels like pre-progtot in the best ways. Les keep it
the events on 4dstation are top secret ultraviolet clearance, employee 648731

your sector co-ordinates have been logged and a re-education shuttle has been dispatched to dock with your site. please remain stationary throughout the retraining process.
I have been hired as a spy and have special paracausal clearance. I have job experience in anomalies such as this one. Did you get the report?

Wait. It probably ended up being sent to you and will probably arrive in 5 days ago. Maybe. Unless the bluespace demons stole it.

They most definitely stole the report. I distinctly remember spinning before my memory went blank.

What day is it again?

Re: mentlegen antag codenut

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:08 am
by DrAmazing343
I got spy once and I like it. (Even if it was a gimmick map that half plasma flooded in minute 5)

It feels like pre-prog-

Wait, something's not right. I was supposed to post this three hours ago?