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Racial slurs

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:49 pm
by Dr_XField

Bottom post of the previous page:

Why are people allowed to say nigger on here? it makes no sense and should be changed. Im not even black but my character is and its really annoying and shouldn't be tolerated at all.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:21 pm
by Lumbermancer
>4chan based server
I mean you can say nigger but don't make it about some kind of a heritage, because /tg/ servers always played second fiddle to /vg/ servers, and were considered the normie ones.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:40 pm
by MrAlphonzo
This would go nowhere.
There would be 10x more backlash against punishments for slurs than when cat people were added.

I'm mixed, and just about every slur we see here every day can be directed at me.
I don't like it, but there's no point in getting upset about it.
We're a 4chan server, there's going to be a ton of edgelords and some genuine racists.

The backlash from trying to wrangle in the language players can use is simply not worth the trouble.

That's just the way it is.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:02 pm
by obscolene
MrAlphonzo wrote:This would go nowhere.
There would be 10x more backlash against punishments for slurs than when cat people were added.

I'm mixed, and just about every slur we see here every day can be directed at me.
I don't like it, but there's no point in getting upset about it.
We're a 4chan server, there's going to be a ton of edgelords and some genuine racists.

The backlash from trying to wrangle in the language players can use is simply not worth the trouble.

That's just the way it is.
t. the biggest arab ape nigger in chicongo

Re: Complaint

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:28 pm
by Dax Dupont
Screemonster wrote:
Dax Dupont wrote:Just make people screaming nigger in IC valid and the problem resolves itself like talking mimes being valid again.
the problem with that is that some people like to make themselves valid and hide just to rile up the crew, unless you mean also making them valid for admins to dunk on 'cause that shit's hilarious when people complain about it

"REEEEEEEE I ONLY READ WGW FIFTY TIMES OVER COMMS AND THE ADMIN DELETED ME IT WAS IC IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED IC"
both really

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:49 pm
by Anonmare
It's not the admins' jobs to police language, that's a huge waste of time and time better spent to resolving issues that actually impact the round

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:07 am
by Dr_bee
Anonmare wrote:It's not the admins' jobs to police language, that's a huge waste of time and time better spent to resolving issues that actually impact the round
If it gets excessive it should be an admin issue. Honestly just having a rule that says "yo its up to admin's discretion so fucking use it at your own risk" would be enough to curb the more assholish uses of it.

Racial slurs are shitty comedy, being edgy has never been funny and is usually a sign of an immature person.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:11 am
by obscolene
Dr_bee wrote:
Anonmare wrote:It's not the admins' jobs to police language, that's a huge waste of time and time better spent to resolving issues that actually impact the round
If it gets excessive it should be an admin issue. Honestly just having a rule that says "yo its up to admin's discretion so fucking use it at your own risk" would be enough to curb the more assholish uses of it.

Racial slurs are shitty comedy, being edgy has never been funny and is usually a sign of an immature person.
i'm gonna say it
i'm gonna say the n-word

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:32 am
by pubby
roody-poo candy-ass

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:42 am
by Malkraz
It's really interchangeable with any other vast multitude of throwaway insults someone can stutter in your direction after being tased, so I don't see a point in trying to mind-read some Rule 1 breaking behavior out of a word you might be taking too seriously. Just chuckle and zap them again.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:52 am
by Deitus
op has to be bamboozling us
right

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:24 am
by oranges
MrAlphonzo wrote:This would go nowhere.
There would be 10x more backlash against punishments for slurs than when cat people were added.

I'm mixed, and just about every slur we see here every day can be directed at me.
I don't like it, but there's no point in getting upset about it.
We're a 4chan server, there's going to be a ton of edgelords and some genuine racists.

The backlash from trying to wrangle in the language players can use is simply not worth the trouble.

That's just the way it is.
I told you guys not to admin this dude

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:33 am
by Lazengann
It should NOT be up to admin discretion, we don't need the arguments that would make

Re: Complaint

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 3:28 pm
by ShadowDimentio
oranges wrote:did a goon player get lost on the way home?
Yes. Fuck outta here with this "I DON'T LIKE WORDS, ADMINS???" bullshit. Grow a pair, faggot.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:30 pm
by Denton
pubby wrote:roody-poo candy-ass
look at this oldfag

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:52 pm
by Cobby
Dr_bee wrote:
Anonmare wrote:It's not the admins' jobs to police language, that's a huge waste of time and time better spent to resolving issues that actually impact the round
If it gets excessive it should be an admin issue. Honestly just having a rule that says "yo its up to admin's discretion so fucking use it at your own risk" would be enough to curb the more assholish uses of it.

Racial slurs are shitty comedy, being edgy has never been funny and is usually a sign of an immature person.
We already ban people for excessive use of racism when it goes from saying "ligger" a bunch to lol it's a captain makes a concentration camp for lizards! event.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:46 pm
by Screemonster
honestly though if someone's spamming slurs over the radio or running around screaming nigger at people just file those sorts of actions under "a stupid game" and ban them if they ahelp over winning a stupid prize

edit: this probably works for in-universe slurs too like calling a lizard a ligger, don't expect the admins to save you if said lizard throws you out an airlock or beats the shit out of you

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:41 pm
by bandit
there is a certain self policing aspect here, in that the people who do this shit the most highly correlate with the people who are shit players that get banned eventually anyway

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:15 pm
by Anonmare
It's a non-issue. Adding a rule against it will just create a Streisand effect and make something that barely happens into a forbidden fruit shitters will use as an excuse to spam nigger in all comms channels

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 3:26 pm
by Lumbermancer
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Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:46 pm
by BeeSting12
have you considered growing a thicker skin OP

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:38 pm
by John_Oxford
allow me to culminate all the arguments into one post

don't be a nigger

it's important to allow people to say things you don't like so you have someone to be mad at

something something 4chins server something something

something something we not goon something something
BeeSting12 wrote:have you considered growing a thicker skin OP
slipperly slope into digg server

its a non issue

you're a faggot for wanting to censor people
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Malkraz wrote:Account was made minutes before this post, for the record.
This is a complaint.

You can be new and make a complaint. You don't need to be a veteran of the great ss13 wars in order to go 'eh, i dunno about saying nibbas, guys'
this is factually incorrect, you have to play on the server since the great ss13 wars to be qualified to make a contextual decision that affects people who have been here since then, gaylord
Malkraz wrote:Account was made minutes before this post, for the record.
guarnteed shitter whos hunting the free speeches

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:52 pm
by Snuffleupagus
oranges wrote:
MrAlphonzo wrote:This would go nowhere.
There would be 10x more backlash against punishments for slurs than when cat people were added.

I'm mixed, and just about every slur we see here every day can be directed at me.
I don't like it, but there's no point in getting upset about it.
We're a 4chan server, there's going to be a ton of edgelords and some genuine racists.

The backlash from trying to wrangle in the language players can use is simply not worth the trouble.

That's just the way it is.
I told you guys not to admin this dude
Can the headmins do a poll for censoring the word nigger, ligger, kike, faggot, queer, but more specifically anything referring to non gender neutral terminology. We should use they. Proper pronouns like Shi and Hir to refer to hermaphroditic characters in game. Words hurt like punches to the face people.

Edit: because this videos relevant.

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Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:01 pm
by MollyKristoph
Dr_XField wrote:Why are people allowed to say nigger on here? it makes no sense and should be changed. Im not even black but my character is and its really annoying and shouldn't be tolerated at all.

Seriously, why are we entertaining this sallow-skinned nigger-nagger?
Begone, THOT! or some other suitably edgiboi term to banish the rainbowheaded ha'twink back to tumblr.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:52 pm
by Denton
Image

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 8:41 pm
by Ayy Lemoh
John_Oxford wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:You can be new and make a complaint. You don't need to be a veteran of the great ss13 wars in order to go 'eh, i dunno about saying nibbas, guys'
this is factually incorrect, you have to play on the server since the great ss13 wars to be qualified to make a contextual decision that affects people who have been here since then, gaylord
Good thing he's making a complaint and not actually making the decision. That would be biased as fuck.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:42 am
by subject217
Shitposting aside. /tg/ administration and server culture has no interest in tone policing. Only cases we would really step in on are repeated, targeted harassment or rule 8 issues. If this really bothers you though, I suggest you try Goon station or Yogstation, they should be more your speed.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:04 pm
by Grazyn
The good ol' days when you could use NTSL to filter bad words con comms.

Thinking about that, if slurs really become an issue and admins won't take any actions, someone could just PR a word filter like most multiplayer games already do

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:11 pm
by Screemonster
Grazyn wrote:The good ol' days when you could use NTSL to filter bad words con comms.

Thinking about that, if slurs really become an issue and admins won't take any actions, someone could just PR a word filter like most multiplayer games already do
bringing back memories of SA years ago when "fag" got filtered to "hamham" and then people started calling each other hamhamgots even after the filter was removed

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:26 pm
by Grazyn
We used to have word censoring here on the forums as well. I disabled it in my prefs years ago but it seems it was disabled globally as well.

So a word filter you can turn on in your game prefs would be the best thing, without the need to force it on everyone

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:29 pm
by Cobby
Or you could just not let words have such needless power over you

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:49 pm
by Nilons
Cobby wrote:Or you could just not let words have such needless power over you

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:26 pm
by wesoda25
Cobby wrote:
Dr_bee wrote:
Anonmare wrote:It's not the admins' jobs to police language, that's a huge waste of time and time better spent to resolving issues that actually impact the round
If it gets excessive it should be an admin issue. Honestly just having a rule that says "yo its up to admin's discretion so fucking use it at your own risk" would be enough to curb the more assholish uses of it.

Racial slurs are shitty comedy, being edgy has never been funny and is usually a sign of an immature person.
We already ban people for excessive use of racism when it goes from saying "ligger" a bunch to lol it's a captain makes a concentration camp for lizards! event.
lol an admin encouraged me to do this once.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:33 pm
by confused rock
Literally kor has forced all the lizards through the gateway once when he was cap, spoilers we actually don't ban them

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:25 pm
by Ayy Lemoh
confused rock wrote:Literally kor has forced all the lizards through the gateway once when he was cap, spoilers we actually don't ban them
did none of the lizards learn what fucking fire extinguishers use?

water.

they deserved it for not being able to defeat a slime.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 5:33 pm
by Screemonster
literally the same round that lizards were added, the AI was a traitor and they told all the lizards to gather in the holodeck then ran the plasma fire simulation

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:12 pm
by Shadowflame909
D&B wrote:>Ever entertaining the idea of censoring a 4chan based server

You should be dragged into the street and curbstomped like the NPC you are
Racial Slurs aren't allowed on blue-boards anon. You'd get banned for that on /tg/

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:18 pm
by CitrusGender
the 18+ rule is just a formality.

the current way to enforce it doesn't do shit so you're going to get dumb shit like this

back on topic, this will never be enforced consistently. It's probably just one of those things that would never be done by half the admin team and cause more drama. It's been like that in the past and it will be like that in the future.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 2:56 am
by oranges
Shadowflame909 wrote:
D&B wrote:>Ever entertaining the idea of censoring a 4chan based server

You should be dragged into the street and curbstomped like the NPC you are
Racial Slurs aren't allowed on blue-boards anon. You'd get banned for that on /tg/
okay this is an epic comment

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:33 am
by Nilons
Shadowflame909 wrote:
D&B wrote:>Ever entertaining the idea of censoring a 4chan based server

You should be dragged into the street and curbstomped like the NPC you are
Racial Slurs aren't allowed on blue-boards anon. You'd get banned for that on /tg/
lol

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:07 pm
by Nervere
We have no interest in censoring the right to expression of others.
Other servers that have rules that restrict IC bigotry may better suit your interest, but this will never happen on /tg/.