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delaron wrote:https://www.names.org/n/ostrava/about

just sayin...

BeeSting12 wrote:

delaron wrote: Whats the issue with Bee's update? Seems reasonable and easy enough to understand/comply with if that is your intent.

I talked to oranges in discord and he said that there were double standards for human races and nonhuman races: the humans have more restrictions, and that it's hard to tell a human that Epic Meme is a shit name when lizards are running around with "Cleans-The-Floors" etc. Personally, I think that's dumb because that format has been accepted for a long time here, so in-universe it makes sense to have "Cleans-The-Floors", but Epic Meme makes no sense.

I also don't even understand or know the naming policy for flies and moths, I'd like to see one put in place but I don't know it. Other than that, I based the rewrite entirely off of the rules page and policy threads on naming conventions for each category and how it's actually enforced.

bandit wrote:in what universe is "Cleans-the-Floors" or "Pushes-and-Shoves" or "Is-a-Lizard" OOC in IC? words have fucking meanings, you know.

Ushla Andreedesh
Geeetul Theoseus
Mahat Canimean
Sakeius Theerteus
Pilsehk Nefelures
Hatus Thefilus
Effe-Nur Naglures
Dan-La Andreetius
Olink-Tah Endoresilus
Talen-Nur Cathees

The Lusty Argonian Maid wrote:Act IV, Scene III, continued

Lifts-Her-Tail
Certainly not, kind sir! I am here but to clean your chambers.

Crantius Colto
Is that all you have come here for, little one? My chambers?

Lifts-Her-Tail
I have no idea what it is you imply, master. I am but a poor Argonian maid.

Crantius Colto
So you are, my dumpling. And a good one at that. Such strong legs and shapely tail.

subject217 wrote:ive linked this twice in the last week and i am here linking it again
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Argonian_Names
ill copy and paste the relevant bit since i know you won't read
Cyrodilic: Also-He-Washes, Basks-In-The-Sun, Big Head, Dreaded-Water, Fine-Mouth, Grey-Throat, Hides-His-Eyes, Hides-His-Foot, High-Heart, Morning-Star-Steals-Away-Clouds, Nelix Fly-Breath, Nine-Toes, Only-He-Stands-There, Skink-in-Tree's-Shade, Smart-Snake, Smokeskin-Killer, Stream-Murk, Swims-In-Swells, Ten-Tongues Weerhat, Tongue-Toad, Twice-Bitten, Wind-In-His-Hair
Cyrodilic: Big Head, Cat-Face, Grey-Throat, Hauls-Ropes-Faster, Hears-Voices-In-The-Air, Hides-His-Heart, Hunting Tail, Raven Biter, Right-Wind, Scar-Tail, Sings-Like-Thunder, Tooth-in-the-Sea
Cyrodilic: Deep-In-His-Cups, Scouts-Many-Marshes, Stands-In-Shallows, Watches-The-Roots

this is the standard for argonian names translated into "cryodilic" which for our purposes is functionally english
so if you accept the whole epic lizardman argonian thing as more than an unofficial standard, you don't get to claim some sort of "Verbs the noun" nonsense or whatever the hell PKP posted

confused rock wrote:My immersions are absolutely SHATTERED by lamp lover, swanni, bal dee, and lexia black (literally named after an antagonist) please ban.

Shezza wrote:this thread: hot garbage
me, an intelectual: anyone who abuses the freedom to make a name for his/her character that is shit and/or obnoxious to the point of admin intervention deserves to have that freedom taken away

"but shezza where is the hypothetical line i can't cross"

if you cannot reasonably explain the story behind the name you have then you clearly crossed it

raised-by-lizards is a good example
its a realistic name for a human because a human raised by lizards and potentially taking on a lizard name scheme is a fun interesting backstory

confused rock wrote:Lady Ari's been the name for 6 years. They've never been popular, but there wasn't much to ban em for. Now subject bans them completely out of nowhere, and I doubt this was subject's first time seeing them. I've never heard much against the name either (unless all admins are secretly whisperin about the name, which would be dumber than the name itself) so I can only see the ban on the name as an attack on the player itself, since there's nothing else that they could ban them for. Either that, or subject is just banning so they can rile people up on policy, or they're just stupid. not sure which is worse.

leibniz wrote:All this "what about x, they have a stupider name" makes me feel like tolerance was a mistake, a purge is needed tbh

confused rock wrote:Headmin can't make a ban themselves? Lady Ari still is very far from a meme name.

Rule 3 Precents.

1. Excessively OOC names fall under rule 3. Make a minimum effort to have your name fit in a setting involving a wacky space station in the future. A firstname lastname minimum is required and no honorifics are allowed. Nicknames in the middle are ok. Admins may get involved if your name is dumb and can approve or disallow names at their discretion while in-game.

PKPenguin321 wrote:

bandit wrote:in what universe is "Cleans-the-Floors" or "Pushes-and-Shoves" or "Is-a-Lizard" OOC in IC? words have fucking meanings, you know.

the universe that we copied our lizard names from

here is a list of randomly generated Argonian names from the elder scrolls

Ushla Andreedesh
Geeetul Theoseus
Mahat Canimean
Sakeius Theerteus
Pilsehk Nefelures
Hatus Thefilus
Effe-Nur Naglures
Dan-La Andreetius
Olink-Tah Endoresilus
Talen-Nur Cathees

here is the in-universe fictional pornography from which our server has decided to base all lizard names off of

The Lusty Argonian Maid wrote:Act IV, Scene III, continued

Lifts-Her-Tail
Certainly not, kind sir! I am here but to clean your chambers.

Crantius Colto
Is that all you have come here for, little one? My chambers?

Lifts-Her-Tail
I have no idea what it is you imply, master. I am but a poor Argonian maid.

Crantius Colto
So you are, my dumpling. And a good one at that. Such strong legs and shapely tail.

and yes i know it's not strictly "OOC in IC" but the point is that these Verbs-the-Noun names are about the stupidest shit ever. literally all of them are an extension of a one-off joke from a universe that has actual lore and is actually immersive. why are we actively speaking against half decent fictionalized names that sound appropriate for an exotic species from 500 years in the future and vouching for awful shit like "Is-A-Lizard"

bandit wrote: in real life people have been named things like Crazy Horse and Sitting Bull, how is it unreasonable that a culture might pattern their names off "Verbs-the-Noun"

Higashikata Josuke wrote:It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

subject217 wrote:

Higashikata Josuke wrote:It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

subject217 wrote:

Higashikata Josuke wrote:It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

subject217 wrote:Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

Higashikata Josuke wrote:

subject217 wrote:Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

Well it doesn't always come across that way. Why the fuck is Analina Seviper or whatever the fuck okay but DePantheryus X isn't? I'm not making a claim that you all think my retarded anime metafriend is a sucky person and you want to bully them, I'm saying you have so little consistency with rulings among the team (and even through the same admin's posts at times) that it can come pretty easily across as bias.

Shadowflame909 wrote:

subject217 wrote:

Higashikata Josuke wrote:It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

Like what

subject217 wrote:I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

Malcolm X wrote:The real names of our people were destroyed during slavery. The last name of my forefathers was taken from them when they were brought to America and made slaves, and then the name of the slave master was given, which we refuse, we reject that name today and refuse it. I never acknowledge it whatsoever.

Kryson wrote:

subject217 wrote:I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

Would you ban my current name; DeAndre Johnson on the same grounds?

UltimateGamer21 wrote:In 2018 parents be naming their kids Brataytay and Skyrim Dovahkiin and Brumble and Abcde and admins insist yoi must be called something like Harold Weinstein or John Smith or else it breaks the immersion of a top down 2d sci Fi Garry's mod clone

subject217 wrote:

Kryson wrote:

subject217 wrote:I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

Would you ban my current name; DeAndre Johnson on the same grounds?

No, I wouldn't, and to clarify, I wasn't trying to suggest that you were doing that. I have just seen too many people running around with the african skin tone and the afro hairstyle and their name set to inane bullshit like "Outdated Farm Equipment" (someone actually tried that).

Grazyn wrote:

subject217 wrote:

Kryson wrote:

subject217 wrote:I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

Would you ban my current name; DeAndre Johnson on the same grounds?

No, I wouldn't, and to clarify, I wasn't trying to suggest that you were doing that. I have just seen too many people running around with the african skin tone and the afro hairstyle and their name set to inane bullshit like "Outdated Farm Equipment" (someone actually tried that).

I've been playing a similar character named Gus Dejeux for a long time now, should I use another character when I see you on adminwho?

subject217 wrote:

Grazyn wrote:

subject217 wrote:

Kryson wrote:

subject217 wrote:I probably would have let DePantherius X fly too if it was obvious that the player wasn't simply using the name to take the piss out of black people.

Would you ban my current name; DeAndre Johnson on the same grounds?

No, I wouldn't, and to clarify, I wasn't trying to suggest that you were doing that. I have just seen too many people running around with the african skin tone and the afro hairstyle and their name set to inane bullshit like "Outdated Farm Equipment" (someone actually tried that).

I've been playing a similar character named Gus Dejeux for a long time now, should I use another character when I see you on adminwho?

I'm gonna say this again. I don't give a rat's ass about stupid names unless they're super OOC.

leibniz wrote:All this "what about x, they have a stupider name" makes me feel like tolerance was a mistake, a purge is needed tbh

subject217 wrote:Ah nice, now you're taking things out of context to use as a personal attack against me. You were playing as booger boy, told not to do this, and then the next thing you do is name yourself "mann snotnose".

subject217 wrote:Fuck off, dude, you're full of shit.

Vaina wrote:

subject217 wrote:Ah nice, now you're taking things out of context to use as a personal attack against me. You were playing as booger boy, told not to do this, and then the next thing you do is name yourself "mann snotnose".

Let me add the context, then.
Yes, I was verbally warned by an admin (whose name I can't remember) and Nabski for using the name Booger Boy. Of course, at the time I wasn't happy about this (at the time), and tried to explain myself to them as best as I could. I'll preface this by admitting I'm not always the most level-headed, but I do try to maintain some measure of civility, and I don't believe I overstepped my boundaries there. It didn't seem fair to me that I was forced to change my name while "Tyrone Watermelon", "Gayden Homolove", and "Cup Cake" were allowed theirs. It wasn't lawyering or sharking; it was a sensible protest.

But it was what it was. I complied despite my dissatisfaction with the ruling. And soon enough, I agreed with the two admins--it was a dumb name. So I did what was asked of me and resolved to change it to something more "acceptable" by the standards set forth. My two options were "Billy Boogers" and "Mann Snotnose". I settled on the latter thinking it would gel with the likes of every other silly--but permitted--name on the server.

Lo and behold, your note.

subject217 wrote:Fuck off, dude, you're full of shit.

It's not a personal attack if I'm just stating the facts. There's no need to get aggressive.

Shadowflame909 wrote:

subject217 wrote:

Higashikata Josuke wrote:It doesn't hurt the game and it really genuinely just feels like an excuse for admins to be petty and fuck with someone they don't like.

Believe it or not, most of us actually have much better things to do than to bully teenagers over their chosen name in a 2 dimensional atmospherics sim from 2003.

Like what