/tg/Station 13

Bottom post of the previous page:

## ALERT LEVELS ###
ALERT_GREEN All threats to the station have passed. Security may not have weapons visible, privacy laws are once again fully enforced.  Searches are permitted only with probable cause.
ALERT_BLUE_UPTO The station has received reliable information about possible hostile activity on the station. Security staff may have weapons visible. Searches are permitted only with probable cause.
ALERT_BLUE_DOWNTO The immediate threat has passed. Security may no longer have weapons drawn at all times, but may continue to have them visible. Searches are permitted only with probable cause.
ALERT_RED_UPTO There is an immediate serious threat to the station. Security may have weapons unholstered at all times. Random searches are allowed and advised.
ALERT_RED_DOWNTO The station's destruction has been averted. There is still however an immediate serious threat to the station. Security may have weapons unholstered at all times, random searches are allowed and advised.
ALERT_DELTA Destruction of the station is imminent. All crew are instructed to obey all instructions given by heads of staff. Any violations of these orders can be punished by death. This is not a drill.

Cobby wrote:You’re not explaining why you can’t just use what CAUSED the reason to red alert to also be your reason to all out search and then proceed to say I’m wanting to “just let the antags win”.

I have to keep regurgitating my argument because you continually conflate it after me saying several times that it is not what I want. Literally read my last post.

I’m just going to ignore your future responses as it doesn’t appear you’re discussing in good faith.

Jack7D1 wrote:I often hang out in dorms cabins at roundstart, usually I'm afk or something but didn't want to latejoin. Just for a few minutes. And almost every single time I find myself completely stripped naked and my PDA and earpiece stolen. I know it's some member of security, since it shows their name in chat logs. It's unpleasant. And should not be allowed.

CDranzer wrote: Was this based on a specific case? Like Cobby did you get redcode randomed while running around with traitor gear? And are you absolutely sure it was random and not that you did something mildly suspicious?

Istoprocent1 wrote: Yup. If I don't agree with you, then my posts are in bad faith. Got it.

You want to change something that doesn't need changing and is not a problem based on "one new guy did a random search on code blue".

You’re not explaining why you can’t just use what CAUSED the reason to red alert to also be your reason to all out search.

Cobby wrote:

CDranzer wrote: Was this based on a specific case? Like Cobby did you get redcode randomed while running around with traitor gear? And are you absolutely sure it was random and not that you did something mildly suspicious?

No but nice try. This was based on a discord conversation but as people have described here random searching already happens when it ISNT allowed. If you see it being acted when it's NOT allowed you can believe it happens when it is.

Cobby wrote:If you can answer that, which seems like no one actually can, then I'd be happy to have a dialogue with you.

Cobby wrote:Please post a direct response to

"You’re not explaining why you can’t just use what CAUSED the reason to red alert to also be your reason to all out search."

so I may stand corrected.

BONERMASTER wrote:You roll antag for the first time in a while, you get your gear and hang around in the bar, thinking what to do next, when a cat in a red jumpsuit pounces you with a flash, exclaiming "Bazoooo!~ Random search!" and then fucks you.

And now tell me how anyone, both security and antags, would want this.