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Rule 8. Pick a normal name. You must not use honorifics or nick names (E.g. Dr Greg House or Jack "Johnny" Johnson), and must be spelt fully with capitals and no shortenings (e.g. NOT J Hoffman or jaiden mallow). Exceptions to this are Eats-The-Lemons format of Lizard names, Clown, Mime, Silicon, Wizard and Nuke Op names. References are still allowed, but try to be original.

Can someone explain to me why Dr House or Luck is not allowed but a name like Blue-Eye-White-Dragon(no offence bro) or Sal A. Mander is? Or why everyone must have a last name? This adds nothing to the game. The RP argument is thrown out the window with names that lizards can pick. This policy needs to get scrapped since it is pointless and frankly unfair.

Discuss.

I've never seen anyone name themselves Old Man... You might be referring to a gimmick I run where I spawn in a character wearing pajamas and edit their step_size to be ridiculously slow so they move 1 pixel every 10 minutes or something and then make them have heart attacks while medbay scrambles to save the old man's life. His name is Old man

firecage wrote:Lets just make this the naming policy.

1. No references(Aka naming yourself after an anime character, or a famous dictator).
2. Mononames are allowed as long as your first name is a real name.
3. Lizardmen, while they can have unique names(like Pins-The-Lizards), can't have ridiculous or reference names like(Shenron-The-Dragon or Tator-Tot-The-Syndi-Cat)
4. Clowns, Mimes, Wizards, AI's, and Cyborgs(and any other jobs or antagonists which can have special names) may choose any name they wish unless said name is creepy, super racist, or breaks server rules(like Rapes-The-Niggers or a station borg/AI choosing Syndicate Cyborg 666)
5. Names, for humans atleast, need to be English/Western names(or at the very least spelled with the English Alphabet), thus no names like Zhōngguó.

1 no
2 yes
3 yes
4 yes
5 any name as long as they are written in English without dumb accents on things

I miss that gimmick (inb4 I steal it), but no someone is actually named old man in game.

NikNakFlak wrote:I've never seen anyone name themselves Old Man... You might be referring to a gimmick I run where I spawn in a character wearing pajamas and edit their step_size to be ridiculously slow so they move 1 pixel every 10 minutes or something and then make them have heart attacks while medbay scrambles to save the old man's life. His name is Old man

No there was an engineer today I saw named that (or was he an atmos tech?)

ThatSlyFox wrote:I miss that gimmick (inb4 I steal it), but no someone is actually named old man in game.

He means Oldman Robustin, I'd assume. That's the only "old man" I've ever seen in game. And was my other post really removed because I thought the guy was dumb for using "problematic" as a justification for censoring names? Jesus Christ.

References are fine within reason. It's only an issue (for me) when it's meta shit (Syndicate Operative, etc). Clowns/silicons of course should get far more leeway, but calling yourself Jew Gassing George, or Shit Fucker is pretty awful.

Erisian wrote:

ThatSlyFox wrote:I miss that gimmick (inb4 I steal it), but no someone is actually named old man in game.

He means Oldman Robustin, I'd assume. That's the only "old man" I've ever seen in game. And was my other post really removed because I thought the guy was dumb for using "problematic" as a justification for censoring names? Jesus Christ.

No we don't mean Oldman Robustin there is literally someone called Old (first name) Man (last name)

firecage wrote:5. Names, for humans atleast, need to be English/Western names(or at the very least spelled with the English Alphabet), thus no names like Zhōngguó.

Why would you even consider banning non-western names?

imblyings wrote:

Rule 7- Character names should be spelled with capitals and without shortenings (e.g. John Doe, instead of J Doe or john doe). A minimal amount of effort should be put into making the names fit in within the context of a crew member of a 26th century, and sometimes wacky and nonsensical, space station. References are allowed.
Rule 7.a- Obviously OOC names are not allowed.
Rule 7.b- Lizards have a looser naming policy and can choose to base their names off the Verbs-the-Noun format, or anything similar.
Rule 7.c- Silicons, clowns, mimes, wizards, and nuclear operative last names have no naming restrictions but names that suck really bad may be subject to Primary Policy Rule 0 admin intervention.

Can we ignore Firecage's retarded version and focus on this one?

Firecage needs to go back to Africa, ratify Ausops' version

Might have meant old man robustin.

Falamazeer wrote:Might have meant old man robustin.

As stated above, no.

(Also, for totally unbiased reasons, I am perfectly in favour of allowing references.)

I've changed my mind on the naming policy.

Namely, I really fucking don't care, unless it becomes stricter in which case I'll be sad.

ThatSlyFox wrote:

imblyings wrote:

Rule 7- Character names should be spelled with capitals and without shortenings (e.g. John Doe, instead of J Doe or john doe). A minimal amount of effort should be put into making the names fit in within the context of a crew member of a 26th century, and sometimes wacky and nonsensical, space station. References are allowed.
Rule 7.a- Obviously OOC names are not allowed.
Rule 7.b- Lizards have a looser naming policy and can choose to base their names off the Verbs-the-Noun format, or anything similar.
Rule 7.c- Silicons, clowns, mimes, wizards, and nuclear operative last names have no naming restrictions but names that suck really bad may be subject to Primary Policy Rule 0 admin intervention.

Can we ignore Firecage's retarded version and focus on this one?

I agree, ignore firecage. This should be the policy.

My personal opnion is that it was a kinda unneeded policy. Those who truely just had shit or stupid names such as "Fag" or "greytider" were force changed and non one cared. The "Hitlers" and "Niggershater" etc became instantly valid and kinda a comical relief pseudo enforced through central announcements etc. and then the others like Old Man Robustin and Luck, everyone kinda accepted them as a nickname so common that everyone called them that.

From an IC standpoint I always saw it as they'd written across their own ID in sharpie or something, and in the backwaters of space no one honestly cared that much.

The policy was initially put into place after tons and tons of shittt names were popping up all over the place and as much as anyone tries to say otherwise, the amount of shitty names has declined. A problem I see is not the fact that the policy is bad, but that admins either are too lazy to enforce proper names or they disagree with the policy and choose to ignore it. Both issues on two different levels.

Shitty names just need to get called out by admins then, we shouldn't enforce a rule that restricts RP and yell "IMMERSIONS!" to justify it.

The problem is that that requires more initiative than simply enforcing a set rule - which is already problematic.

DemonFiren wrote:The problem is that that requires more initiative than simply enforcing a set rule - which is already problematic.

No the problem is that it causes admin complaints every fucking time there's no totally concrete rule in place.

Rule 7- Character names should be spelled with capitals and without shortenings (e.g. John Doe, instead of J Doe or john doe). A minimal amount of effort should be put into making the names fit in within the context of a crew member of a 26th century, and sometimes wacky and nonsensical, space station. References are allowed.
Rule 7.a- Obviously OOC names are not allowed.
Rule 7.b- Lizards have a looser naming policy and can choose to base their names off the Verbs-the-Noun format, or anything similar.
Rule 7.c- Silicons, clowns, mimes, wizards, and nuclear operative last names have no naming restrictions but names that suck really bad may be subject to Primary Policy Rule 0 admin intervention.

This set seems fine by me, though it's practically identical to what we're enforcing anyway.

What is the naming policy on lizards anyway? They seem to have zero rules right now. You get people like Cucks-The-Mekhi and Siphons-the-Farts running around. I think the argonian format in general is silly but some of them really push it.

I am beginning to pray that a naming policy along the lines of 'try not to ruin anyone's emulsions, pray the admins don't object to your name, and go ahead' could be made to work, because people adhering to the spirit of the policy just plain doesn't happen, whether or not they follow the letter.

Stickymayhem wrote: Rule 7- Character names should be spelled with capitals and without shortenings (e.g. John Doe, instead of J Doe or john doe). A minimal amount of effort should be put into making the names fit in within the context of a crew member of a 26th century, and sometimes wacky and nonsensical, space station. References are allowed.
Rule 7.a- Obviously OOC names are not allowed.
Rule 7.b- Lizards have a looser naming policy and can choose to base their names off the Verbs-the-Noun format, or anything similar.
Rule 7.c- Silicons, clowns, mimes, wizards, and nuclear operative last names have no naming restrictions but names that suck really bad may be subject to Primary Policy Rule 0 admin intervention.

This set seems fine by me, though it's practically identical to what we're enforcing anyway.

It allows people to just have a mononame and removes the "Pick a normal name." part of the current policy. Which IMO are the only real issues with the policy. We could be enforcing lizard names better though.

Is this even enforced? The amount of mononames, titles, and other violations is through the roof. Not that there's anything wrong with that - Not like there was much to get immersed in in the first place.

You have a point.

This is just a result of people demanding set-in-stone rules instead of using their fucking head.

Rule 7 is a fucking paragraph and it still has 3 subsections, when all it ever needed was "Don't have a retarded name. If you have a retarded name for no reason an admin will change it for you, if you keep naming yourself retarded names you will be punished."

This is a thing that Rule 0 should cover. It doesn't need more rules.

This:

Loonikus wrote:This is just a result of people demanding set-in-stone rules instead of using their fucking head.

Rule 7 is a fucking paragraph and it still has 3 subsections, when all it ever needed was "Don't have a retarded name. If you have a retarded name for no reason an admin will change it for you, if you keep naming yourself retarded names you will be punished."

Loonikus wrote:This is just a result of people demanding set-in-stone rules instead of using their fucking head.

Rule 7 is a fucking paragraph and it still has 3 subsections, when all it ever needed was "Don't have a retarded name. If you have a retarded name for no reason an admin will change it for you, if you keep naming yourself retarded names you will be punished."

Remind me again why An0n3 refused this guy to be a headmin?

Loonikus wrote:This is just a result of people demanding set-in-stone rules instead of using their fucking head.

Rule 7 is a fucking paragraph and it still has 3 subsections, when all it ever needed was "Don't have a retarded name. If you have a retarded name for no reason an admin will change it for you, if you keep naming yourself retarded names you will be punished."

We have so many damn lines because some admins will throw a fit about Burer but others won't for whatever reason.

Will someone please tell me who this Burer is that keeps being mentioned? As far as I can gather, he's an admin who played as sec a long time ago.

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:Will someone please tell me who this Burer is that keeps being mentioned? As far as I can gather, he's an admin who played as sec a long time ago.

He was a guy who played with the name Burer. He did this for many years (maybe even before SoS started hosting). One day admins decided mononames were immersion ruining and his name of ~3-4 years suddenly was not okay anymore for whatever reason.

Kor wrote:

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:Will someone please tell me who this Burer is that keeps being mentioned? As far as I can gather, he's an admin who played as sec a long time ago.

He was a guy who played with the name Burer. He did this for many years (maybe even before SoS started hosting). One day admins decided mononames were immersion ruining and his name of ~3-4 years suddenly was not okay anymore for whatever reason.

Except no admin ever actually enforced the rule on any oldies (Burer, Sly etc)

Cracking down on the mononames was dumb anyway.

It's near impossible not to have rules like this because no admins want to constantly deal with whiny babies who are fully aware that what they are doing is stupid but argue anyway for the sake of it or because they saw someone else get away with it once.

So I have no fucking clue what the naming policy is now.

treat it as if the naming policy is just "don't act dumb" i guess???

Well, I got called out for my usual name. So yeah, I think that not allowing mononames is dumb.

QuartzCrystal wrote:So I have no fucking clue what the naming policy is now.

Is it even enforced? Ever?

I think mononames and incomprehensible gibberish is the only thing admins can be fucked to bwoink

Not even mononames. I stand as proof (lizard masterrace), as do some filthy human scum who ought to get a last name.

Naturally, lizards are exempt from the mononame policy... but only as long as it's true to TES lore in some way.

TheNightingale wrote: but only as long as it's true to TES lore in some way.

Are you serious or are you just pretending?

Doritos wrote:

Kor wrote:

Not-Dorsidarf wrote:Will someone please tell me who this Burer is that keeps being mentioned? As far as I can gather, he's an admin who played as sec a long time ago.

He was a guy who played with the name Burer. He did this for many years (maybe even before SoS started hosting). One day admins decided mononames were immersion ruining and his name of ~3-4 years suddenly was not okay anymore for whatever reason.

Except no admin ever actually enforced the rule on any oldies (Burer, Sly etc)

This policy is only like a year old or something. Get the info straight

STP and Stickymayhem have both agreed on these parts of the proposed revision by ausops with my added c:

Rule 7.a- Obviously OOC names are not allowed.
Rule 7.b- Silicons, clowns, mimes, wizards, and nuclear operative last names have no naming restrictions but names that suck really bad may be subject to Primary Policy Rule 0 admin intervention.
Rule 7.c- Names may still be subject to rule 0. If an admin asks you to change it please do so without a fuss.

Looks like we have a new naming policy.

and here i was hoping to get away with using 'administrator abuse' as my name

Im going to rule 0 people all the time then.
If you name yourself something that aint a name, your getting it changed. This policy is literally what the admin feels like, the policy which is objectivily bad, but who am I to argue with the (totally not a joke) headmins. mostly stp

NikNakFlak wrote:Im going to rule 0 people all the time then.
If you name yourself something that aint a name, your getting it changed. This policy is literally what the admin feels like, the policy which is objectivily bad, but who am I to argue with the (totally not a joke) headmins. mostly stp

Why? Does this serve any purpose other than for you to prove some obscure point in an argument between you and the headmins? Why drag us players into this? Why fuck with us to piss off the headmins?

My sarcasm senses are tingling... I don't think NikNakFlak was being serious there.

naming policy go
I want to see silly names again. Raise the tick rate while youre at it.

tedward1337 wrote:naming policy go
I want to see silly names again. Raise the tick rate while youre at it.

Teddy pls, this is still a light RP server. Expecting people to at least pretend to have a name that is believable in-character isn't too much to ask.

...wait, apparently it is.

It is too much
we're too grey'd by this whole 'light RP' thing we have
either we have rp, or we don't.

Well, ostensibly we do.

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