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How does one become an admim?
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:26 pm
by secretshame
Bottom post of the previous page:
I know they have to become a trial admin first and then you become an admim and then can be voted for head admin but I'm not sure how one becomes a trial admin. Is there an application? A nomination? Are new trial admins only accepted at certain times?
What is the procedure?
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:57 am
by kevinz000
Grazyn wrote:Exactly, turn them away for negative history and so on, not just because they dared to ask. I guess that hearing an admin trainer literally say "a player asking for admin unprovoked is usually a red flag" really grinds my gears
iirc this is always the thing in most cases, there's only a handful of exceptions from what i can see.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:44 am
by captain sawrge
Actually, what generally happens is we promote an admin trainer, they will promote/review one, maybe a couple groups of new mins of basically anyone that asks, the especially stupid ones manage to lose it early on and the rest slip through the cracks and get trial when the trainer inevitably gets burnt out playing daycare and gives up after two weeks. Then no one else feels like going through the training process so all applicants just get denied til the admin situation gets bad and we desperately need more again.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:39 am
by PKPenguin321
Sometinyprick wrote:PKPenguin321 wrote:Grazyn wrote:>it's a volunteer job but if you volunteer that's a red flag
What's the logic behind this?
imagine if anybody that asked could just kinda become an admin
who WOULDNT be an admin
you sort out the ones who you think might be good
not adminning people solely because they ask is stupid, and arguing that we would have to make "EVERYONE" who asked to be admin an admin is a stupid argument and you should feel bad.
oh no yeah of course but so far nobody that's asked is what would be considered good admin material
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 2:40 am
by danno
lol true
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:12 am
by TehSteveo
Grazyn wrote:Exactly, turn them away for negative history and so on, not just because they dared to ask. I guess that hearing an admin trainer literally say "a player asking for admin unprovoked is usually a red flag" really grinds my gears
Because most people who ask have negative history or no history. It's better to look for talent and scout as usually most who ask aren't the best choices.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:41 am
by PKPenguin321
Grazyn wrote:Exactly, turn them away for negative history and so on, not just because they dared to ask. I guess that hearing an admin trainer literally say "a player asking for admin unprovoked is usually a red flag" really grinds my gears
sorry i didnt see this at first
it's not in and of itself bad to ask, but 99.999999999% of the time the person who is asking is not admin material, like i've already said. with history like that it makes me automatically suspicious, but yeah if you indicate that you're serious and your record checks out and we need an admin in your time slot and adminbus has no beef, then yeah you're probably good.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:05 am
by PKPenguin321
CosmicScientist wrote:Do you have a soopa seekrit player notes option for potential candidates or do you keep it all in your head or write it down and approach the admin team after snooping on the behaviour for a bit?
This thread is fun. I wish we had more fun threads in policy discussion.
if you're a potential candidate without any direct contact, it's basically because you have a lot of positive/neutral presence in game. Dregonsteps (IC as Fesa Semenov) is like this at the moment, since I always always always see them just observing in deadchat which is what admins do anyways. (i asked them if they wanted admin and they turned me down.) another example would be Reed Glover, who IIRC was offered admin but turned it down.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 5:05 am
by Steelpoint
People who tend to idle in deadchat, or who do low key roles like Reed, tend to not want responsibilities, hence why they are in those low key positions.
Admins are like Nuke Op mech pilots. The person asking to be the mech pilot should be the last person who should pilot the mech.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:18 am
by oranges
they do offer people admin, it's been offered in the past to me but I always turned it down.
then again that was when I actually played.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:20 am
by oranges
PKPenguin321 wrote:.... adminbus has no beef, then yeah you're probably good.
metaclub
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:28 am
by Grazyn
By the way, are admin candidates still required to study and operate according to this?
https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-ctmgtzC ... 1_djvu.txt
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:33 am
by Haevacht
It mentions ban requests so it's outdated at the very least.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:50 am
by oranges
they must have an updated version
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:58 am
by Sometinyprick
beerobot wrote:they must have an updated version
It's in the sekrit no players allowed forum
where we all jerk each other off talk about things
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:44 pm
by Whoisthere
you have to greentext alot
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:53 pm
by Cw3040
Not an admin, but from what I can gather:
1) Not having bans
2) A LOT of dick-sucking and pretending to like unlikable people like Saegrimir.
EDIT: Or having time-powers average humans cannot feasibly comprehend. Looking at you, Kevinz
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:01 pm
by Whoisthere
Saeg is your friend he fights for freedom from players
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 3:31 pm
by Cw3040
Whoisthere wrote:Saeg is your friend he fights for freedom
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:04 pm
by DemonFiren
There's no reason to dislike Saeg unless you're a shitler.
You've already proven yourself to be a shitler, though.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:08 pm
by Sweets
Cw3040 wrote:Not an admin, but from what I can gather:
1) Not having bans
2) A LOT of dick-sucking and pretending to like unlikable people like Saegrimir.
Nah otherwise how did Kevinz, Oldman(removed, but he got it), PKP and Durkel get admin?
Admins need a good grasp of the rules, lots of playtime and a friendly demeanor with a long temper and the ability to use good judgement.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:42 pm
by Cobby
Cw3040 wrote:Not an admin, but from what I can gather:
1) Not having bans
2) A LOT of dick-sucking and pretending to like unlikable people like Saegrimir.
I don't recall speaking to admins much when I was a player.
And pretending to like your "coworkers" should not be a foreign concept to a "+18" community [although I legitimately have no issue with saeg].
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:50 pm
by Cw3040
ExcessiveCobblestone wrote:Cw3040 wrote:Not an admin, but from what I can gather:
1) Not having bans
2) A LOT of dick-sucking and pretending to like unlikable people like Saegrimir.
I don't recall speaking to admins much when I was a player.
And pretending to like your "coworkers" should not be a foreign concept to a "+18" community [although I legitimately have no issue with saeg].
Which is what I said. Pretending to like someone who commonly has more vitriol/sass than Robustin is a common thing if you're working a dead-end job.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:26 pm
by kevinz000
Sweets wrote:Cw3040 wrote:Not an admin, but from what I can gather:
1) Not having bans
2) A LOT of dick-sucking and pretending to like unlikable people like Saegrimir.
Nah otherwise how did Kevinz, Oldman(removed, but he got it), PKP and Durkel get admin?
Admins need a good grasp of the rules, lots of playtime and a friendly demeanor with a long temper and the ability to use good judgement.
I have 9 bans over 2-3 years a third or more of them jokes.
And I don't antagonize admins for fun.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:00 pm
by Qbopper
kevinz000 wrote:And I don't antagonize admins for fun.
I'm pretty sure this is the key factor
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 10:47 pm
by Jacough
I heard admin candidacies are actually just a cover and people actually become admins by sending the headmins nudes. Is that true?
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:38 pm
by Quanti
Sometinyprick wrote:beerobot wrote:they must have an updated version
It's in the sekrit no players allowed forum
where we all jerk each other off talk about things
it still mentions ban requests in that one too
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:25 am
by oranges
Qbopper wrote:kevinz000 wrote:And I don't antagonize admins for fun.
I'm pretty sure this is the key factor
that's not good for me
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:55 am
by danno
kevin antagonizes admins accidentally instead
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:57 am
by kevinz000
danno wrote:kevin antagonizes admins accidentally instead
consider yourself on thin ice :^)
edit: oh fuck what am i doing why am i embracing a shit meme that people made?
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:13 am
by PKPenguin321
kevinz000 wrote:danno wrote:kevin antagonizes admins accidentally instead
consider yourself on thin ice :^)
edit: oh fuck what am i doing why am i embracing a shit meme that people made?
http://puu.sh/u0JUv/9ef074e3da.png
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:36 am
by cedarbridge
kevinz000 wrote:danno wrote:kevin antagonizes admins accidentally instead
consider yourself on thin ice :^)
edit: oh fuck what am i doing why am i embracing a shit meme that people made?
Stop leaking shed into the nice clean policy forum, Kev. Geez
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:28 am
by kevinz000
cedarbridge wrote:kevinz000 wrote:danno wrote:kevin antagonizes admins accidentally instead
consider yourself on thin ice :^)
edit: oh fuck what am i doing why am i embracing a shit meme that people made?
Stop leaking shed into the nice clean policy forum, Kev. Geez
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:36 am
by Doctor Pork
cedarbridge wrote:kevinz000 wrote:danno wrote:kevin antagonizes admins accidentally instead
consider yourself on thin ice :^)
edit: oh fuck what am i doing why am i embracing a shit meme that people made?
Stop leaking shed into the nice clean policy forum, Kev. Geez
D E S T R O Y E D
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:14 am
by Quanti
to be fair it feels like it belongs in the shed anyway
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 1:37 pm
by Arianya
Kind of a siderail, but why are EUmins/non-US mins so rare as to be worth noting as being particularly desired? From what I've seen from chatting to people the servers have a decent EU playerbase, and laws of statistics would dictate that atleast some of these people are un-shit enough to get trialled.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:50 pm
by peoplearestrange
I asked to be made midimin in so many rounds (so I could play some decent ogg's) that someone just said "fuck it why dont you just be a trial already" and SOS laid his hammer of unsmiting upon me and thus I began the steady downfall of enjoying the game. ;^)
Honestly just play lots, be active in the community, then ask an admin trainer to candidate you for a few rounds. Get shown the ropes and see how it goes.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:58 pm
by TehSteveo
Arianya wrote:Kind of a siderail, but why are EUmins/non-US mins so rare as to be worth noting as being particularly desired? From what I've seen from chatting to people the servers have a decent EU playerbase, and laws of statistics would dictate that atleast some of these people are un-shit enough to get trialled.
Problem is more headmins/GMs/Trainers being about on those hours to get new EUmins in for teaching. We one one person from EU being candidated right now and that's more the issue. The admin team has a few UK and EUmins, but most are inactive or semi-active right now.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:02 am
by oranges
make me an admin I will train a new order of AU/NZ admins to rule the dark hours
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:53 am
by Cobby
beerobot wrote:make me an admin I will train a new order of AU/NZ admins to rule the dark hours
Not all heroes wear capes.... Some make for great juice!
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:07 am
by Haevacht
beerobot wrote:make me an admin I will train a new order of AU/NZ admins to rule the dark hours
Ooh, pick me I'll go get my iron fist.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:27 am
by cedarbridge
beerobot wrote:make me an admin I will train a new order of AU/NZ admins to rule the dark hours
Not until secborgs come back.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:03 am
by Reece
TC trade for adminhood?
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:25 pm
by Limey
asking is stigmatized because powerhungry chaps do it but that doesnt mean everyone who asks is a powerhungry chap ya dig
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:25 pm
by Limey
Reece wrote:TC trade for adminhood?
honestly this
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:08 pm
by Armhulen
cedarbridge wrote:beerobot wrote:make me an admin I will train a new order of AU/NZ admins to rule the dark hours
Not until secborgs come back.
heck yeah!
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2017 10:06 pm
by calzilla1
Tbh, my first server was hate so if I was admin 99.9% of ahelp replies would be along the lines of "suck it up, butterfuck" and make stupid fucking events every round
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:37 am
by John_Oxford
i take it back
being a meme is -absolutely- required
not sawrage not kev not pkp not danno
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:47 pm
by oranges
cedarbridge wrote:beerobot wrote:make me an admin I will train a new order of AU/NZ admins to rule the dark hours
Not until secborgs come back.
What? that's a server config, doesn't have anything to do with me
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:48 pm
by oranges
Haevacht wrote:beerobot wrote:make me an admin I will train a new order of AU/NZ admins to rule the dark hours
Ooh, pick me I'll go get my iron fist.
You're on my team
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:11 pm
by Reece
I can do euro times (8-12pm) on most days. But I'm too much a pussy to ever ban someone without feeling like the bad guy from Heart of darkness. So basically I want executive power with no responsibility to run gimmicks and meme.
Re: How does one become an admim?
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:15 pm
by oranges
Reece wrote:I can do euro times (8-12pm) on most days. But I'm too much a pussy to ever ban someone without feeling like the bad guy from Heart of darkness. So basically I want executive power with no responsibility to run gimmicks and meme.
You're on my team