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Staff of Change clarifications request

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:35 am
by MollyKristoph
Okay, so, in the chance one gets involuntarily SoC'd into say, a xeno, lawless borg, lawless syndieborg, freedrone, or syndiedrone, is one antag?

Re: Staff of Change clarifications request

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:43 am
by Dax Dupont
I think it's pretty important to have a clear ruling on this. Most people use this to go full antag.

Re: Staff of Change clarifications request

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 11:47 am
by onleavedontatme
If you get involuntarily changed, you are free to act as the monster would (antag) because the point of the wizard using this power is to spread chaos

If you got voluntarily changed, you have to act as your role was prior (not antag) because self antagging is against the rules.

Re: Staff of Change clarifications request

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:23 pm
by Nilons
Kor wrote:If you get involuntarily changed, you are free to act as the monster would (antag) because the point of the wizard using this power is to spread chaos

If you got voluntarily changed, you have to act as your role was prior (not antag) because self antagging is against the rules.
threads over lol

Re: Staff of Change clarifications request

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:38 pm
by TribeOfBeavers
There should probably be some sort of in-game message for this, or at least an entry on the rules page.

Re: Staff of Change clarifications request

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:02 pm
by Qbopper
the amount of questions I see about people being transformed by different things is surprisingly large

they're also always the question "so am i antag now" :(

Re: Staff of Change clarifications request

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:30 pm
by PKPenguin321
Nilons wrote:
Kor wrote:If you get involuntarily changed, you are free to act as the monster would (antag) because the point of the wizard using this power is to spread chaos

If you got voluntarily changed, you have to act as your role was prior (not antag) because self antagging is against the rules.
threads over lol
Correct

Re: Staff of Change clarifications request

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:31 pm
by PKPenguin321
TribeOfBeavers wrote:There should probably be some sort of in-game message for this, or at least an entry on the rules page.
This is a good idea and I'll see what I can do.

Edit: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/28472