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If they're text, then netspeak or emojis would be acceptable. If not, then that would obviously be OOC in IC.

I've always assumed they were text since Centcomm announcements are similar and they're printed out. Plus, they're sent to newscasters and can be printed out at newscasters making me think that they're text. Obviously this thread applies to AI announcements, head desk announcements, and any other similar ones.

I personally always thought they were spoken as per the ogg files and music files that depict the captain's announcements as spoken. Additionally, you don't usually "announce" stuff on a text medium to an entire station. Still, I guess it does show up on the newscasters. I'm just not 100% sure since I used a different note as precedent.

I've always assumed console announcements, captain announcements, and centcom announcements were all spoken with written transcripts sent to newscasters and communications consoles if applicable.

They're voice, haven't you heard the recordings? How can they be text? They don't go to your PDA, that right side of the screen is "text" but it's always been "voice"...

They also go to newscasters, which is what made me think they're text.

That's just them being transcribed into text.

you're typing text into the computer

it's text

they are both sound and text depending on where you view them

they're messages over the PA that are transcribed to text for newscasters

not once have i seen it be ok to use netspeak in one of them

i wasnt aware that cuboos dictated roleplay policy

sound, sorry!!

Okay, thank you for the clarification on that

Can you still hear captain's announcements while deaf? What about blind? How do you view them while in maint?

Neither, it's psionic

Saegrimr wrote:Can you still hear captain's announcements while deaf? What about blind? How do you view them while in maint?

iirc it was made so you can't hear them if you're deaf

PKPenguin321 wrote:

Saegrimr wrote:Can you still hear captain's announcements while deaf? What about blind? How do you view them while in maint?

iirc it was made so you can't hear them if you're deaf

CASE CLOSED

but you get them even if you arent on stations z level so how could sound go there if comms cant?
Text

Don't think about it

Captain types the text of the message on the computer, he doesn't actually speak in a mic or record his own voice. Text-to-speech software broadcasts it over the radio. A text copy is also sent to newscasters. This is why anyone can use the console as long as it's unlocked and no one would be able to tell it's not the captain making the announcement.

This means that you can use netspeak or emojis but people will hear them spelled out by the text-to-speech voice. E.g. if you write "I love you crew <3" people will hear "I love you crew less than three". Of course, people in the 26th century are used to this so they instanly recognize spelled out symbols and emojis, and that's why the announcement is displayed in the chat window as the captain meant it, instead of what you are actually hearing.

CosmicScientist wrote:>a bunch of nerds saying Cappy types it in so therefore it's text
Are speech and emotes just text then? Are we simply text?

Anonmare wrote:Neither, it's psionic

Isn't it this? When can't you hear or understand a Captain or Centcom announcement?

>captain leaves the console logged-in
>clown sends out an announcement
>nobody can tell it's the clown

It's not the captain's voice. It's a text-to-speech device, therefore using emotes and shit isn't OOC in IC.

Grazyn wrote:therefore using emotes and shit isn't OOC in IC.

regardless of how it works IC, people have been and will continue to be punished for OOC in IC in announcements, the precedent is there and we already do it

You can't hear them off zlevel either.
Only centcomm announcements are universal (actually not even sure if they 100% are)

iamgoofball wrote:you're typing text into the computer

it's text

and I suppose that text magically appears in the place where people talk? What kind of logic is this? Think less about how the captain inputs and more about how it gets to people on the station. Text just doesn't float through their screen...?

NikNakFlak wrote:

iamgoofball wrote:you're typing text into the computer

it's text

and I suppose that text magically appears in the place where people talk? What kind of logic is this? Think less about how the captain inputs and more about how it gets to people on the station. Text just doesn't float through their screen...?

PDA messages appear in the same chat

iamgoofball wrote:

NikNakFlak wrote:

iamgoofball wrote:you're typing text into the computer

it's text

and I suppose that text magically appears in the place where people talk? What kind of logic is this? Think less about how the captain inputs and more about how it gets to people on the station. Text just doesn't float through their screen...?

PDA messages appear in the same chat

All pdas have text2speech software

Guys it's a game, certain things have to be abstracted

How about both?

oranges wrote:Guys it's a game, certain things have to be abstracted

like i posted above we can argue about this all we like but you shouldn't be using netspeak in announcements

iamgoofball wrote:

NikNakFlak wrote:

iamgoofball wrote:you're typing text into the computer

it's text

and I suppose that text magically appears in the place where people talk? What kind of logic is this? Think less about how the captain inputs and more about how it gets to people on the station. Text just doesn't float through their screen...?

PDA messages appear in the same chat

You know what also appears in that chat? Emotes! But wait, maybe people are smart enough to know that you literally can't say "its text" when everything is text based feedback in this game and we know certain things are supposed to voice. It's an announcement for god's sake. I feel like you don't even believe yourself, you just want to argue for the sake of arguing.

The voice saying "Attention, new command report created." would make it seem like it's text.

obscolene wrote:The voice saying "Attention, new command report created." would make it seem like it's text.

Yes but that's Centcomm reports/announcements. We are more discussing Captain announcements etc.

My view of it is that no matter how or why it's transmitted/sent it should be assumed to be in voice not in text terms. And so using netspeak should not be allowed as per regular chat. I believe we've already had one headmin state this.

Rustledjimm wrote:

obscolene wrote:The voice saying "Attention, new command report created." would make it seem like it's text.

Yes but that's Centcomm reports/announcements. We are more discussing Captain announcements etc.

My view of it is that no matter how or why it's transmitted/sent it should be assumed to be in voice not in text terms. And so using netspeak should not be allowed as per regular chat. I believe we've already had one headmin state this.

It's different if it's text2speech, which obviously is since you can't tell who is making the announcement. Distasteful and unfunny, sure, but not OOC in IC.

Parenthesis open dash colon guys it’s totally t2s carrot underscored carrot

if you put something like lmao or :^) in a tts thing it just sounds stupid, which is how it should be treated when putting netspeak into the captains tts announcements

Cobby wrote:Parenthesis open dash colon guys it’s totally t2s carrot underscored carrot

OOC in IC means immersion-breaking. It means something that makes you realize you're playing a character in a game. PA systems across the world have been using text2speech software since forever. Imagine someone inputting emojis in those, yes it would read out as you said, yes it would be amusing and weird. Would it make you question your own reality? I don't think so.

If you visualize the Captain's Announcement as a synthetic voice reading out a text message, you realize it's not OOC in IC to hear "Hello crew ecks dee"

If its tts can we put moonbase alpha text in?

Grazyn wrote:

Cobby wrote:Parenthesis open dash colon guys it’s totally t2s carrot underscored carrot

OOC in IC means immersion-breaking. It means something that makes you realize you're playing a character in a game. PA systems across the world have been using text2speech software since forever. Imagine someone inputting emojis in those, yes it would read out as you said, yes it would be amusing and weird. Would it make you question your own reality? I don't think so.

If you visualize the Captain's Announcement as a synthetic voice reading out a text message, you realize it's not OOC in IC to hear "Hello crew ecks dee"

Qbopper wrote:we can argue about this all we like but you shouldn't be using netspeak in announcements

If the captain announcements are voice then you would be able to tell who is speaking, which is not the case as it only states it as an announcement. In the case that a traitor stole the captain's ID and made an announcement, people would just think it's the captain because there is no voice to listen to -- informing them that it is a different person speaking.

In the year whatever-the-fuck-the-lore-says Nanotrasen has managed to work out the perfect accent and tone for each head position so no matter who makes the announcement superior technology immediately makes them sound commanding and authoritative through delicate voice changing technology.

Rustledjimm wrote:In the year whatever-the-fuck-the-lore-says Nanotrasen has managed to work out the perfect accent and tone for each head position so no matter who makes the announcement superior technology immediately makes them sound commanding and authoritative through delicate voice changing technology.

thread can be locked tbh

i don't care just don't use netspeak with it.