/tg/Station 13

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:06 pm**

only got removed because niknakflak got salty that title4 got removed. only got removed because niknak removed it because niknak dislikes goof

the reason why i'm posting it here is roundstart/end music is:

so, re-add it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 3:27 pm**

Isn't that technically a copyright violation though. Would RIAA ass blast usa /tg/station13? I mean if they go after 66 year old grandmothers...

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 4:47 pm**

I'll enable it unless anyone speaks up

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:10 pm**

Why did title4 get removed too? Can that get added back too?

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:13 pm**

My lobby music is muted so I don't care.

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:16 pm**

Saegrimr wrote:Why did title4 get removed too? Can that get added back too?

i'll enable it unless anyone speaks up

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:32 pm**

Armhulen wrote:
Saegrimr wrote:Why did title4 get removed too? Can that get added back too?
i'll enable it unless anyone speaks up

i don't like title4 but whatever. also there was license info regarding title4 AND THERE STILL IS even though we removed title4 from the repo (https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... icense.txt)

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:52 pm**

what was title4 again

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 8:54 pm**

That screeching violin

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:40 pm**

Dont see what The Room has to do with our server or SS13

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:47 pm**

FrozenGuy5 wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Saegrimr wrote:Why did title4 get removed too? Can that get added back too?
i'll enable it unless anyone speaks up
i don't like title4 but whatever. also there was license info regarding title4 AND THERE STILL IS even though we removed title4 from the repo (https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... icense.txt)

I had no idea what it was or why it was removed, just seems silly.

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:57 pm**

Kor wrote:Dont see what The Room has to do with our server or SS13

Posted: **Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:02 pm**

Saegrimr wrote:
FrozenGuy5 wrote:
Armhulen wrote:
Saegrimr wrote:Why did title4 get removed too? Can that get added back too?
i'll enable it unless anyone speaks up
i don't like title4 but whatever. also there was license info regarding title4 AND THERE STILL IS even though we removed title4 from the repo (https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... icense.txt)
I had no idea what it was or why it was removed, just seems silly.

wow i completely forgot the story, here's the ACTUAL story:

- niknak opens a pr to remove ididnotgriefthem.ogg (room theme) claiming it was a shitty meme injected by goof and never fit with the ss13 atmosphere
- pr gets merged and cyberboss opens a pr to remove title4 (screeching violing) claiming the same reasons
- pr gets merged and niknak gets extremely salty and opens 4-5 revert prs and eventually stops
- a revert gets opened to the removal of ididnotgriefthem.ogg and antur tells people that it can be hosted on the server (see op)
- and here we are.

Kor wrote:Dont see what The Room has to do with our server or SS13

don't see what a tintin on the moon and robocop theme have to do with our server or ss13 shit, but the music sounds good anyway and it feels "traditional" as ss13 music

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:35 am**

Kor wrote:Dont see what The Room has to do with our server or SS13

don't see what a tintin on the moon and robocop theme have to do with our server or ss13 shit, but the music sounds good anyway and it feels "traditional" as ss13 music[/quote]

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:08 am**

Both of those are at least sci-fi and one is a remix an admin here made for us iirc

Also just legacy at this point

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:11 am**

what a story mark

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:50 am**

dont readd VIOLIN please

and fix meta's lobby image already

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:07 am**

no violin, yes the room but someone convince kor

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:40 pm**

Atlanta-Ned wrote:
Kor wrote:Dont see what The Room has to do with our server or SS13

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:56 pm**

It sets your RP expectations in the right direction.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:48 pm**

Armhulen wrote:
Kor wrote:Dont see what The Room has to do with our server or SS13
don't see what a tintin on the moon and robocop theme have to do with our server or ss13 shit, but the music sounds good anyway and it feels "traditional" as ss13 music

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Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:55 pm**

only purely ss13 related things can be in ss13, like cat people or bloodborne references!

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:58 pm**

Kor wrote:Dont see what The Room has to do with our server or SS13

It seems to me like you're the expert Kor.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 5:58 pm**

You're like a chicken

Cheep cheep cheep

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:13 pm**

Isn't there already a The Room reference in the game with a shuttle named "Oh hi daniel?"

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:54 pm**

CitrusGender wrote:Isn't there already a The Room reference in the game with a shuttle named "Oh hi daniel?"

Yeah I added that too.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:36 pm**

Nilons wrote:only purely ss13 related things can be in ss13, like cat people or bloodborne references!

CitrusGender wrote:Isn't there already a The Room reference in the game with a shuttle named "Oh hi daniel?"

Yeah and we have lightsabers but that doesnt mean we need the star wars theme as our title music

You're never gonna find complete consitency in a project built by thousands of people compromising for a decade either

CPTANT wrote:
Kor wrote:Dont see what The Room has to do with our server or SS13
It seems to me like you're the expert Kor.

What does this post even mean

Armhulen wrote:no violin, yes the room but someone convince kor

Dont send the forum warriors after me you traitor

I've had lobby music off for years anyway so I dont actually care strongly about adding it or not, just feels silly to entirely lift another bit of unrelated media like that

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:13 pm**

I added it because it's a nice song and the bad quirky arr pee of ss13 meshes well with the awful script of The Room

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:39 pm**

If you're never gonna find consistency stop using it as an argument as to why the song shouldn't be there.

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:43 pm**

Other way around. Just because we bent "rules" in the past (like keeping xenomorphs) doesnt mean we should add literally anything going forward just to make it "fair"

You are demanding rigorous logical consistency from me for having an opinion on a song in a videogame by bringing up two completley unrelated things I neither coded nor merged.

Since I know where this stupid game leads (guess who used the same exact "but other people added stupid shit!" arguments as you when trying to add My Little Ponies) I thought it would be easier to just skip to the end and to the part where I acknowledge its all subjective instead of playing forum gotcha forever

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:15 pm**

Gotcha!!

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:44 pm**

Theres a difference between "We have to add everything possible because we added some dumb shit" and "We shouldn't use something being unrelated to ss13 as a reason not to include it as we haven't done so in the past".

No one is saying we should add it because its not related to ss13, just that it not being related to ss13 shouldn't have any bearing on the decision.

I'm not expecting rigorous logical consistency Im expecting you to pick one or the other and stick with it, you're a headmin, make the call on whether or not this type of stuff is ok to add going forward instead of picking and choosing things

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:25 pm**

Kor wrote:
CPTANT wrote:
Kor wrote:Dont see what The Room has to do with our server or SS13
It seems to me like you're the expert Kor.
What does this post even mean

Sorry, let me clarify.

It seems to me like you're the eeeehxpert ̶M̶a̶r̶k̶ Kor.

Posted: **Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:42 am**

is this even policy or a policy discussion? It's completely subjective and the reason niknak wanted to remove it was because it was the largest filesize song and it added nothing but existing and being a funny meme

Though today my favourite TV show is airing, "Kor gets baited into a pointless argument where people demand concrete buildings when the only supplies around are bamboo and clay"

Posted: **Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:48 am**

Nilons wrote:We shouldn't use something being unrelated to ss13 as a reason not to include it as we haven't done so in the past".

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/ ... r143208526

Here is one example out of what I am sure are hundreds if not thousands of similar ones. You either have no clue what you're talking about or are just arguing in bad faith.

>you cant pick and choose!

I will continue to factor whether I think something is SS13 related into my decision making along with a laundry list of other considerations. It isn't a pass/fail checklist of hard rules. Things that arent "SS13 related" will continue to make their way into the game if the positives outweigh the negatives.

Goof understands how this process works, which is why he is making the case that the music is worth adding rather than complaining it isnt bad enough to reject.

Karp wrote: Though today my favourite TV show is airing, "Kor gets baited into a pointless argument

I am by far the dumbest person on the forums

Posted: **Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:03 am**

it was bad, just like this thread

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