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Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:39 pm
by yorii
Discuss.

(Of course with special permissions to the appeals subforum)

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:42 pm
by DemonFiren
>forum bans for ingame bans
Are you seriously >implying that anyone who uses the forums plays, or that anyone who plays on the server has a forum account?

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:55 pm
by Plapatin
no

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:56 pm
by D&B
A bit late in the month for our scheduled ban request disguised as policy

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:07 pm
by feem
Sorry, no, this is case by case.

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:00 am
by Qbopper
this was discussed when I was still adminning and there was a very positive response to having permabanned players be locked to FNR to make appeals, but adding a ban for everything when you get any ban in game is a bad idea

(the idea to lock perma'd players to the appeals section was received very well but I'm told after I deadminned like two or three people spoke against it and then the idea immediately died because I guess no one wants to deal with the drama and I wasn't there to defend it in any way)

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:03 am
by BeeSting12
Github: No, that's separate from the server.

IRC:

#coderbus: Separate from server.
#supportbus: Needed for ban appeals.
#adminbus: Most admins aren't perma'd.
#tgstation13: It's dead who cares

Discord: If they're not stirring shit who cares

Forums: As long as they don't shitpost too much who cares

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:37 am
by PKPenguin321
at the absolute most kick em out of the policy, ideas, and coding feedback forums but at that point its such a minor ban that it'd be more hassle to do/undo it than it's worth

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:52 am
by CitrusGender
BeeSting12 wrote:Github: No, that's separate from the server.

IRC:

#coderbus: Separate from server.
#supportbus: Needed for ban appeals.
#adminbus: Most admins aren't perma'd.
#tgstation13: It's dead who cares

Discord: If they're not stirring shit who cares

Forums: As long as they don't shitpost too much who cares

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 4:04 am
by Qbopper
temp bans shouldn't apply because it's too much overhead but seriously the amount of permabanned players who continue to hang around when they are clearly not wanted should never be more than 0

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:53 am
by Rustledjimm
CitrusGender wrote:
BeeSting12 wrote:Github: No, that's separate from the server.

IRC:

#coderbus: Separate from server.
#supportbus: Needed for ban appeals.
#adminbus: Most admins aren't perma'd.
#tgstation13: It's dead who cares

Discord: If they're not stirring shit who cares

Forums: As long as they don't shitpost too much who cares

I do however feel there are a few people who fall among these two categories for Discord and the Forums.

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:56 am
by Nilons
what is wrong with the way its handled now

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:56 pm
by yorii
Nilons wrote:what is wrong with the way its handled now
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with not handling it, but I feel like you are implying that it is handled.

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:05 pm
by Nilons
yorii wrote:
Nilons wrote:what is wrong with the way its handled now
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with not handling it, but I feel like you are implying that it is handled.
do something warranting a forum ban: get a forum ban
do something warranting a game ban: get a game ban
do something warranting an irc ban: get an irc ban
do something warranting a discord ban: get a discord ban

why would you link them all they're handled individually just fine

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:09 pm
by imblyings
because some permas are for people being insufferable, as a perma is usually a 'please leave our community for a good while, we won't miss you if you don't come back', it is not much of a stretch to remember certain players perma'd who were also caustic and useless posters on the forum or elsewhere

but it's case by case, while most forum permas are probably indefensible, applying them manually still works and isn't broken

Re: Ingame bans should result in forum/discord/git/irc bans as well.

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 7:35 pm
by feem
there are a few people banned from one place or the other who are reasonably okay in other places