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had to beat up anonmare because we had a round where the ai was killing an angel and while i didnt take action on the ai i thought that angels were human to the ai and anonmare disagreed, can a headmin clear this up please

My official stance is that only living, non-hulk homo sapiens with no mutant parts are Human. Angels fall under both mutant and other race, as with catgirls.

Don’t they even show up as another species if health analyzed?

Yes

Why are you sayig something thats not human is human?

When the fuck did we get angels?

I don't know anything about angels, but if you scan them with a medical scanner, what specie does it show? What does the code say? Aren't angels just zombies with wings anyway? Dead?

Atlanta-Ned wrote:When the fuck did we get angels?

They are the name given to people with giant angel wings, usually from mining or xenobio.

Pretty sure a lizard can get those as well? Why is this confusing then?

BeeSting12 wrote:Why are you sayig something thats not human is human?

Because the potion to gain wings isnt the same as the mutation toxins that alter your race though I could entirely understand if it was more related to hulk than an actual seperate species. Also I remember reading on wiki somewhere that AI sees them as human. Waiting on headmins to chime in

Lumbermancer wrote:I don't know anything about angels, but if you scan them with a medical scanner, what specie does it show? What does the code say? Aren't angels just zombies with wings anyway? Dead?

Scanning them with a health scanner displays their species as angel and you dont need to be dead to be registered as one

Lumbermancer wrote:Pretty sure a lizard can get those as well? Why is this confusing then?

nope, only humans.

this bitch aint human

Treat angels as bayonetta would :^)

PKPenguin321 wrote:
this bitch aint human

get in the fucking gygax shinji

I think operating under the guise that anything that adds a new external mutation, body part or something that is clearly not naturally Human should render that person, by the Silicon's standards, as Non-Human.

This would make things simple.

That's how it functions it's just people like to make a policy discussion to affirm that I guess.

Cobby wrote:That's how it functions it's just people like to make a policy discussion to affirm that I guess.

I saw a wiki entry here or somewhere else where there was a graph of every single species in the game and it listed angels as human so ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The only wiki related entry we have about human/not-human status is this from the Rules page, which doesn't mention angels at all:



That said, I don't think we should try to reinvent the wheel. Health scanners regard angels as being a distinct thing from humans species wise and so we should treat them as such.

The interesting point is whether the removal of wings cause a health scanner to see someone as human/lizard again or if they remain an angel.

I'm personally extremely against NPC humans being non-Human. It's extremely non-intuitive and has no IC explanation.

Going off topic but I believe the justification for NPCs being classified as Non-Human is to stop Silicons having a heart attack whenever a large group of hostile NPCs get tossed onto the station somehow.

Also, I do not think Silicons can stun NPCs, so they are further castrated in this situations.

NPCs being non-human was already discussed in https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 06#p440231 and is off topic tbh.

Having angels as a separate species at all is super dumb, it's just to add the wings. I'm pretty sure nonhumans can't use the potion at all, it just says something about it tasting bad.

Their non-human.

their non-human what?

Anonmare wrote:I'm personally extremely against NPC humans being non-Human. It's extremely non-intuitive and has no IC explanation.

*plants a clown bomb*

pshh, nothing personnel rabit

Is this about the sybil round where I used an odysseus to turn everyone into angels.

If so I'm sorry.