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Racial slurs

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:49 pm
by Dr_XField
Why are people allowed to say nigger on here? it makes no sense and should be changed. Im not even black but my character is and its really annoying and shouldn't be tolerated at all.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:55 pm
by Ayy Lemoh
Saying the N word is edgy 'h u m o r' which isn't actually funny.

Thing is, I feel like there's people with arguments on why outright banning it is a bad idea. I don't really have these arguments however it's probably because freedom of speech or something. It's not like we would lose anything if we weren't allowed to say that word besides "wtf now i can't call lizards LIGGERS anymore wtf" however eh.

Besides, we're supposed to be mature adults here, right? You gotta be 18 or older to play on this server, ya know. None of us would be so immature.

edit: also wrong section for this but eh you seem like you have a serious question.
edit 2: also I don't really have an opinion on this. I don't care if the word is banned or if it isn't. You would probably have to ban more than just the N word if you banned it, though. That doesn't sound nice.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:15 pm
by Virtual John
Moved to the right place to have this conversation after thinking about it.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:25 pm
by Malkraz
Why shouldn't they be allowed to say it?

Re: Complaint

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:54 pm
by Floiven
Dr_XField wrote:Why are people allowed to say nigger on here? it makes no sense and should be changed. Im not even black but my character is and its really annoying and shouldn't be tolerated at all.
How does it not make sense? Just call em' a cracka and move on with your life, or something. Or resolve it IC and get the lawyer to drag em' into court, that'd be entertaining.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:58 pm
by Screemonster
just call them a faggot back

or play on one of the numerous servers that does have a policy against the use of slurs against real-life groups
most of those servers primarily have that rule to filter out 14 year olds rather than actually being offended by it anyway

Re: Complaint

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:07 pm
by Nilons
its literally just words grow a thicker skin

Re: Complaint

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:17 pm
by Karp
ooc tab>mute player

allows you to mute people

I dunno if I like the concept of text censorship due to not believing everyone on the admin team would be on the same page, but there are some obnoxious people who think they're hilarious by screaming about niggers every 2 seconds because they're 12

It's not unique and it's incredibly unfunny after the 5th or 6th time and half the time said people use it more than terry davis while killing the humor of it

I now remember when that one player used to go on insane pol rants in ooc a few years ago and they managed to piss everyone off on the server. They ignored being told to shut the fuck up and they were obnoxious as hell

Re: Complaint

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:32 pm
by Rustledjimm
[youtube]KVN_0qvuhhw[/youtube]

Re: Complaint

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:53 pm
by CreationPro
Dr_XField wrote:Why are people allowed to say nigger on here? it makes no sense and should be changed. Im not even black but my character is and its really annoying and shouldn't be tolerated at all.
You have a call to action but provide no arguments for it. Why should we censor it?

If the argument is "well someone would get offended" the answer is "fuck your feelings and fuck you for having a thin skin, go to yog or some other safe space".
This is not digg, we say whatever.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:56 pm
by iksyp
Dr_XField wrote:Why are people allowed to say nigger on here? it makes no sense and should be changed. Im not even black but my character is and its really annoying and shouldn't be tolerated at all.
Us huities like to oppress minorities s'all

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:17 am
by kevinz000
hugbox

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:25 am
by oranges
did a goon player get lost on the way home?

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:41 am
by Malkraz
Account was made minutes before this post, for the record.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:00 am
by Ayy Lemoh
Malkraz wrote:Account was made minutes before this post, for the record.
This is a complaint.

You can be new and make a complaint. You don't need to be a veteran of the great ss13 wars in order to go 'eh, i dunno about saying nibbas, guys'

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:08 am
by Malkraz
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Malkraz wrote:Account was made minutes before this post, for the record.
This is a complaint.

You can be new and make a complaint. You don't need to be a veteran of the great ss13 wars in order to go 'eh, i dunno about saying nibbas, guys'
I'm implying it's a shitpost. "I'm not black but my character is" wew.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:13 am
by oranges
this guy is from citadel

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:18 am
by BeeSting12
nice bait nigga

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:08 am
by NikNakFlak
I have noticed a specific shitty player spamming the n word more than usual lately. I was showing the game to someone and they commented about it. It really looks bad honestly even if this is bait. Generally not a problem usually, we just have some garbage spewing it more lately.

Cant remember the name off the top of my head but I've talked to other admins about it already

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:14 am
by Floiven
Just give them brain damage or sue them in SPACE COURT

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:33 am
by somerandomguy
Malkraz wrote:
Ayy Lemoh wrote:
Malkraz wrote:Account was made minutes before this post, for the record.
This is a complaint.

You can be new and make a complaint. You don't need to be a veteran of the great ss13 wars in order to go 'eh, i dunno about saying nibbas, guys'
I'm implying it's a shitpost. "I'm not black but my character is" wew.
Doesn't have a linked byond account either, probably a shitpost

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:53 am
by Qbmax32
Only real niggas can post in this thread now

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:56 am
by CreationPro
Qbmax32 wrote:Only real niggas can post in this thread now
*super loud bass boosted unidentifiable music + deep fried filter*

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:28 am
by Virtual John
Is this where the kool cids meat?

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:41 am
by Floiven
Virtual John wrote:Is this where the kool cids meat?
shiiiiiet
(This means yes)

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:11 am
by Cobby
you're welcome to enforce it ingame by beating them up (as one might would IRL) but not a fan of enforcing it outside.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:25 am
by Malkraz
Cobby wrote:you're welcome to enforce it ingame by beating them up (as one might would IRL) but not a fan of enforcing it outside.
Will this be protected under escalation policy?

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:49 am
by Denton
Floiven wrote:Just give them brain damage or sue them in SPACE COURT
Forcing someone who spams the n word to RP would be a worse punishment for them than a ban.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:24 am
by Incomptinence
Some people are offended at "hello" generating all sorts of assumptions based on the slightest idiosyncrasies of a conversation.

Does this mean we should become a mute species that communicates via scented farts?

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:10 am
by Mickyan
If use of racial slurs was grounds for requesting age verification it would get rid of so many shitty players and the server would be so much better off without really infringing FREEDOM OF SPEECH or whatever other meme /pol/ uses nowadays to excuse being a childish twat

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:25 pm
by Nilons
Mickyan wrote:If use of racial slurs was grounds for requesting age verification it would get rid of so many shitty players and the server would be so much better off without really infringing FREEDOM OF SPEECH or whatever other meme /pol/ uses nowadays to excuse being a childish twat
honestly this would be good ass policy

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:45 pm
by bandit
Incomptinence wrote:Some people are offended at "hello" generating all sorts of assumptions based on the slightest idiosyncrasies of a conversation.

Does this mean we should become a mute species that communicates via scented farts?
this isn't a slippery slope argument so much as a vertical cliff

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:27 pm
by Arianya
Requesting age verification is limited specifically because there are a lot of people who are perfectly over 18 who wouldn't want to share real world ID. I don't find using the n-word as a joke funny or good but I'm not going to pretend it's sane to suggest requiring age verification from every person who says it.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:38 pm
by Lumbermancer
Nilons wrote:its literally just words grow a thicker skin
Unfortunately the quality of the language correlates with the quality of a player.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:56 pm
by obscolene
clears throat
ahem...

NIGGER

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:57 pm
by Mickyan
Arianya wrote:Requesting age verification is limited specifically because there are a lot of people who are perfectly over 18 who wouldn't want to share real world ID. I don't find using the n-word as a joke funny or good but I'm not going to pretend it's sane to suggest requiring age verification from every person who says it.
Obviously I was joking, although I wasn't joking about the fact it would still be a net gain for player quality

I do think however that if you want to actually enforce the bare minimum of roleplay standards then requiring people to not talk like 4chan rejects in IC would be a good place to start

Also I can't imagine OP is the only person that's been turned off by it, if you join for the first time and the first thing you see is someone spamming NIGGER in chat it doesn't make a good impression

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:12 pm
by Lumbermancer
obscolene wrote:clears throat
ahem...

NIGGER
shpeak of the devil

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:44 pm
by Nilons
obscolene wrote:clears throat
ahem...

NIGGER
See like this is an actually funny use of saying nigger

It's not screaming it in ooc 30 times

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 3:57 pm
by Lumbermancer
Nilons wrote:
obscolene wrote:clears throat
ahem...

NIGGER
See like this is an actually funny use of saying nigger

It's not screaming it in ooc 30 times
and he shall appear

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:01 pm
by Tlaltecuhtli
4 admins got baited really makes me think

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:54 pm
by Xeroxemnas
Image

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 8:00 pm
by Qbmax32
Based copypasta

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:39 pm
by Cobby
Malkraz wrote:
Cobby wrote:you're welcome to enforce it ingame by beating them up (as one might would IRL) but not a fan of enforcing it outside.
Will this be protected under escalation policy?
It already is.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:43 pm
by Malkraz
Mickyan wrote: I do think however that if you want to actually enforce the bare minimum of roleplay standards then requiring people to not talk like 4chan rejects in IC would be a good place to start
Where do you think you are?

Re: Complaint

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:58 am
by Dax Dupont
Just make people screaming nigger in IC valid and the problem resolves itself like talking mimes being valid again.

Re: Complaint

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:05 am
by Screemonster
Dax Dupont wrote:Just make people screaming nigger in IC valid and the problem resolves itself like talking mimes being valid again.
the problem with that is that some people like to make themselves valid and hide just to rile up the crew, unless you mean also making them valid for admins to dunk on 'cause that shit's hilarious when people complain about it

"REEEEEEEE I ONLY READ WGW FIFTY TIMES OVER COMMS AND THE ADMIN DELETED ME IT WAS IC IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED IC"

Re: Complaint

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:15 am
by Arianya
I'm editing the title of this because I keep seeing new posts and thinking its an admin complaint in the wrong subforum.

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:27 am
by bman
bait of the century

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:59 pm
by D&B
>Ever entertaining the idea of censoring a 4chan based server

You should be dragged into the street and curbstomped like the NPC you are

Re: Racial slurs

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:21 pm
by Lumbermancer
>4chan based server
I mean you can say nigger but don't make it about some kind of a heritage, because /tg/ servers always played second fiddle to /vg/ servers, and were considered the normie ones.