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Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:54 pm
by wesoda25
Its that time of the year again!
So last year i got a ban for killing and spacing a dude who cut down both xmas trees. In the end the note was removed but the precedent was made that you shouldn’t kill those people. We are under new management so I figured id make this
So like yeah they’re cunts its rule 1 can i kill them
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:00 am
by deedubya
See Kor's ruling regarding pet murder. I believe it applies here as well.
If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like killing Ian) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:04 am
by PKPenguin321
deedubya wrote:See Kor's ruling regarding pet murder. I believe it applies here as well.
If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like killing Ian) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.
this isn't actually the case currently, so you shouldn't phrase it like it is. that said, if the headmins agree with it it totally could apply.
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:29 am
by deedubya
Key words: "I believe" not "As a matter of fact"
That being said, if it isn't the case, it should be. Chopping down a christmas tree isn't any better than pet murder.
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:07 am
by skoglol
I thought it was agreed they were valid already. Grinches should be valid!
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:13 am
by wesoda25
deedubya wrote:Key words: "I believe" not "As a matter of fact"
That being said, if it isn't the case, it should be. Chopping down a christmas tree isn't any better than pet murder.
did you like not read the part of my post where i talked about my ban or what
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:14 am
by Lazengann
you said the note was removed
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:34 am
by wesoda25
I said the precedent was set that in the future it would be a bannable offense.
https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... 2&p=465007
Nervere wrote:OK, so we talked this over, and while we agree that chopping down the Christmas trees opens you up to retribution, you shouldn't space/cremate/etc. for it. Permanent round removal is a step too far.
I've looked further into this particular case, however, and I feel that the ahelp logs are relevant. [...] Going forward we won't tolerate spacing for this sort of thing, though, please be aware of that.
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 11:08 am
by oranges
so in fact, they are valid, shadow is talking out of his asshole and deedubs was right
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:50 pm
by Shadowflame909
that's Pkpenguin
I'm shadow
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:54 pm
by PKPenguin321
well there you go
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:32 pm
by Tarchonvaagh
muh valids
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:48 am
by deedubya
So in the very ban appeal you made, Nervere's statement mirrors my own, the ban gets lifted, and all you're told is to just not dispose of the body. Why does that need to be discussed further? Don't fuckin' hide/torch bodies unless they're lings.
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:17 am
by wesoda25
they’re worse than lings and i want to torch/cremate them
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 5:09 am
by Anonmare
This is discrimination against grinches/
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:04 am
by bandit
only if they cut down the tree in a boring way, as opposed to
PM: Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson)->ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson): Hey, uh, what happend back at the bar?
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): HOP told me to get rid of the christmas tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): He didn't care how I did it
PM: Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson)->ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson): Why did you use a maximum yield explosive to destroy a single tree?
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): Because I had maximum yield explosives and a job to do
PM: Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson)->ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson): You can't just take out a major section of the station because you were told to cut down a tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): I wasn't told to cut down a tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): I was told to remove tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): I removed tree
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 8:18 am
by deedubya
bandit wrote:only if they cut down the tree in a boring way, as opposed to
PM: Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson)->ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson): Hey, uh, what happend back at the bar?
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): HOP told me to get rid of the christmas tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): He didn't care how I did it
PM: Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson)->ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson): Why did you use a maximum yield explosive to destroy a single tree?
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): Because I had maximum yield explosives and a job to do
PM: Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson)->ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson): You can't just take out a major section of the station because you were told to cut down a tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): I wasn't told to cut down a tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): I was told to remove tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): I removed tree
I hope you let him off with a warning, that's pretty funny tbh
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 2:21 pm
by Arathian
bandit wrote:only if they cut down the tree in a boring way, as opposed to
PM: Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson)->ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson): Hey, uh, what happend back at the bar?
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): HOP told me to get rid of the christmas tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): He didn't care how I did it
PM: Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson)->ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson): Why did you use a maximum yield explosive to destroy a single tree?
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): Because I had maximum yield explosives and a job to do
PM: Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson)->ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson): You can't just take out a major section of the station because you were told to cut down a tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): I wasn't told to cut down a tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): I was told to remove tree
PM: ErgoReaper/(Jacob Richardson)->Kevinz000/(Mekhi Anderson): I removed tree
Please tell me they weren't banned for that. I died laughing reading this shit.
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:56 pm
by Anonmare
Unironically based.
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 1:10 am
by oranges
unsuprisingly they have a ban for maxcapping the brig after maxcapping the bar
Re: Make people who cut down Christmas trees valid
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2020 6:32 pm
by Reyn
I can't believe you're making a policy for the christmas tree
The christmas tree can get pretty rediculous sometimes, So I can see why someone WOULD cut it down. (Debug uplinks, Instagib rifles, etcetera) I got a fucking frag grenade from the tree once.
But, Once again, Situational. Not to mention it's an event thing which happens at the ass end of a year.