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Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:35 am
by Istoprocent1
Dear headmins, Krokodil is in trouble and needs Your help! I was approached and asked to change my OG color option by a member of the admin team. I hope there is something that can be done to preserve it.

I always wear a full uniform as well as a beret, which means that it does not give me an unfair advantage, on the contrary, it gives an advantage to the criminals who are able to instantly distinguish me.

I don't know where to post this, so I chose policy thread which seems to be the most related forum.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:39 am
by EOBGames
Wait, why were you asked to change it? And how can a skin colour give an unfair advantage?

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:41 am
by Istoprocent1
It is darker than whats currently available.

It is similar to the catpocalypse, where people were allowed to keep their characters, if they made it before new ones got banned. I chose my color when it was available and now it isn't.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:52 am
by wesoda25
have you ever considered making your color a bit lighter?

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:55 am
by skoglol
No, you cannot keep your full black #000000 lizard. The reasons for this should be very very obvious, but in case the readers dont get it: When you are full black, you are harder to spot in darkness.

Regardless of any of that, the color you have is not a valid color pick. Just because you abused the bug while still active doesnt mean you have unlocked a secret color option that can never be taken away from you.

Id link to the relevant issue report and fix, but you know.. Either way, color sanitazion was broken when we moved stuff to UTF-8 and gave people full black no matter what color was picked.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:59 am
by Armhulen
Admins, this is when you manually set their preferences datum ;)

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:00 am
by General Thrax
wasnt krokodil grey before

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:01 am
by Istoprocent1
skoglol wrote:When you are full black, you are harder to spot in darkness.
Has anybody who plays the game regularly had any issues with that? You make it sound worse than it actually is and as I have pointed out I always wear a full uniform as well as lights and when I am not a sec I don't ever run around naked waiting to ambush people in the maintenance.

I chose the color from the palette, no bugs used.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:03 am
by skoglol
It doesnt matter how you got it, or if there is an advantage in having it or not. Its not a valid color option, and this discussion is asinine.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:05 am
by Cobby
Seems a bit disingenuous to not mention the context the admin provided (aka that the option selected was supposedly a bug) and proceed to compare it to a configurable like catgirls, which I could have chalked up to just not knowing better had you not been told earlier that, again, it was bug.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:07 am
by XivilaiAnaxes
Fuck you skoglol free Krokodil!

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:15 am
by Arianya
Istoprocent1 wrote:It is darker than whats currently available.

It is similar to the catpocalypse, where people were allowed to keep their characters, if they made it before new ones got banned. I chose my color when it was available and now it isn't.
No, these things are not similar. Catpocalypse was an intentional and overt decision to leave it accessible. What the OP is about is using a bugged save file from when the colour sanitization didn't work at one point in time due to a change in major versions.

If you want to play a #000000 lizard then take it up with the codebase to change the colour sanitization. Don't try and make false equivalencies to legislate it.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:31 am
by teepeepee
wow all these admins and coders discriminating this player by the colour of his skin...

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:34 am
by SpaceManiac
skoglol wrote:It doesnt matter how you got it, or if there is an advantage in having it or not. Its not a valid color option, and this discussion is asinine.
fix the code to automatically correct it and be done with it

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:37 am
by PKPenguin321
fun fact to admins, you can force edit and save user prefs via vv on the client and a manual proc call. not suggested but can be funny to mess with players by making their OOC color #FFFFFF (dont save it like that obviously)

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:21 am
by SkeletalElite
Code issue. Fix minor bug instead of arguing about whether or not to banbot people.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:22 am
by Istoprocent1
SpaceManiac wrote:
skoglol wrote:It doesnt matter how you got it, or if there is an advantage in having it or not. Its not a valid color option, and this discussion is asinine.
fix the code to automatically correct it and be done with it
It feels kinda petty to force a change that has no meaningful impact for anybody else, especially in times where the game instability is at an all-time high - lighting is bugged, game stutters, time dilation is 30%+ regardless of whats happening and so on. :roll:

All I am saying is that the minor cosmetic "feature" has not caused any issues thusfar and there is no benefit for going after it other than to cause me some grief as I am somewhat attached to it.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 4:28 am
by wesoda25
Lmao imagine trying this hard to rationalize a bug

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 11:13 am
by oranges
who the fuck isn't validating pref options? I stg

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 12:29 pm
by trollbreeder
i have a character called covered-in-soot that i will never play, and you can never take him away from me

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:19 pm
by skoglol
oranges wrote:who the fuck isn't validating pref options? I stg
We are, in two places during load_preferences. The sanitize bug with 513 caused the colors to come out as "000" instead of "#000" so it is currently not catching these.

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if(!features["mcolor"] || features["mcolor"] == "#000")
	features["mcolor"] = pick("FFFFFF","7F7F7F", "7FFF7F", "7F7FFF", "FF7F7F", "7FFFFF", "FF7FFF", "FFFF7F")
if(!features["ethcolor"] || features["ethcolor"] == "#000")
	features["ethcolor"] = GLOB.color_list_ethereal[pick(GLOB.color_list_ethereal)]
And

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if(!S["features["mcolor"]"] || S["features["mcolor"]"] == "#000")
	WRITE_FILE(S["features["mcolor"]"]	, "#FFF")
if(!S["feature_ethcolor"] || S["feature_ethcolor"] == "#000")
	WRITE_FILE(S["feature_ethcolor"]	, "9c3030")
These should be merged into one tbh, the former actually saving the choice as well.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2020 3:06 pm
by Tlaltecuhtli
was krokodil black? it looked dark red on my screen

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 2:16 am
by capn_monkeypaw
This isn't a policy discussion, it's a bug that you're abusing. An admin has told you to stop doing so. Please comply with that request.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:05 am
by Istoprocent1
Limited to Terry, hurt nobody, was completely fine until skoglol got triggered for no reason. Phuzzy simping for coders. Feels bad man.

Re: Preserving OG Options

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:34 am
by oranges
^^^ Tier 3 sub and chat mod finding out his waifu has a bf