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DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:10 pm
by Sparkezel
So looking at DADG policy discussion I saw that it was denied the murderbone license because hijack objective already allowed for that, however even then hijack got reworked and now it doesnt allow murderbone too, should DADG allow full on murderbone again?

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:13 pm
by Eskjjlj
[MANUEL] or [MRP] in the title please

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:25 pm
by pugie
but its campbell

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:26 pm
by RaveRadbury
By DADG do you mean Die A Glorious Death? DAGD?

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:05 pm
by Sparkezel
Yeah I meant Die a Glorious Death, sorry for the typo.

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:15 pm
by Tlaltecuhtli
no, if traitor blows up and destroys bar the rp is ruined

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:27 pm
by Screemonster
Tlaltecuhtli wrote:no, if traitor blows up and destroys bar the rp is ruined
suicide bombing isn't murderbone, murderbone is defined as systematically eliminating people from the round for an extended period and actively seeking out more victims once you're done with the last one, a single random act of extreme violence doesn't count

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:20 pm
by wesoda25
Killing anyone without justification is considered murderboning.
From the murderboning rules.

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 7:37 pm
by Screemonster
wesoda25 wrote:
Killing anyone without justification is considered murderboning.
From the murderboning rules.
well that's just dumb as hell when the fuck was that added

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:24 pm
by Cobby
Screemonster wrote:
wesoda25 wrote:
Killing anyone without justification is considered murderboning.
From the murderboning rules.
well that's just dumb as hell when the fuck was that added
It does sound extremely dumb if that was the only part of the rule.

If you have the DADG objective and you bomb It would not be considered murderboning. Systematically offing people because you have DADG still sounds incredibly dumb, which is what murderboning is.

Please use a different word than murderboning if you want to say "killing a bunch of people", because its sepecifically the "for no reason but im antag" portion that turns a very chaotic event into murderboning. Consequently, you can “murderbone” even if you kill a single individual. The number has no relevance to what is the rule-sanctioned definition of murderboning, but rather the intent behind the kill.

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 am
by XivilaiAnaxes
Suicide bombing isn't "without justification" if you have DAGD.

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 2:59 pm
by vkalls
Personally, I think this should be a decision where you ahelp your interesting take on DAGD. If it involves killing a few innocents that will be up to the admins online at the time to decide, but in most cases it should be acceptable because antags are already allowed to kill people with flimsy justification.

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:41 pm
by Misdoubtful
Some people are meming about things but:
wesoda25 wrote:
Killing anyone without justification is considered murderboning.
From the murderboning rules.
XivilaiAnaxes wrote:Suicide bombing isn't "without justification" if you have DAGD.
Bingo. You have a reason, dying. It doesn't have to be interesting or funny, but it can be. Justification can come in a lot of ways, and it doesn't have to mean that someone has to be your target to be able to bonk them either. It just means have a reason. Even if its, he had access I wanted to do X so I could make my death happen at Y. Its not really intended as a 'round can't have action' sort of thing.

In that sense though, full murderbone wouldn't really work, right?

Unless there is say, confusion about what justification would be?

Re: DADG objective and murderbone permission [Manuel]

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 4:53 pm
by Coconutwarrior97
DADG is not a pass to murderbone. It acts as a reasonable justification for causing a lot of chaos, but the main point is that it should end in your death. Delaminating the supermatter and preventing people from fixing it as you wait for it to explode and take you and engineering with it.
Detonating a bomb in medbay where you explode. Make a good faith effort to put yourself into a situation where your death is amongst the end goals. Silently going around the station killing people off does not further your objective.
Taking a dsword and rushing into a staffed brig screaming is most definitely a good faith attempt.

This policy was made thanks to discussion in policy bus.

Headmin Votes:
Coconutwarrior97: Yes, once again generally acting in good faith in regards to your objectives means you're fine.
Naloac: Yes.
Jimmius: Yes.