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revs becoming not revs.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:25 am
by mstachife
After revolutionaries kill all the heads of staff and the centcomm message occurs are they no longer considered revolutionaries if the AI has a law regarding revolutionaries? For example, "revolutionaries aren't human and must be killed" .

Re: revs becoming not revs.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:49 pm
by Misdoubtful
In most servers the approach is considered: 'former rev'

The revolution is over in these places, and some of these codebases will even leave that a mark that someone was a former rev for administrative reasons. That said, if the revolution is a success are there still revolutionaries? What if the revolution was a failure would there still be revolutionaries?

I think someone made a chart on revolutionaries for TG once but, I don't really remember.

Revs aren't human as a law is already a bit wishy washy in this context since the AI realistically doesn't have much, if anything, to prove that someone is or isn't a rev — unlike the cultist running around with a pentagram above their head. Failing to have that proof and harming a human would kinda be bad juju. The law lacks any defining characteristics.

Re: revs becoming not revs.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:00 pm
by Farquaar
Personally, I think it should be up to the successful revolutionaries to change the laws once they take over. It makes for more interesting conflict than the alternative.

From an IC standpoint, revolutionaries don't magically stop being revolutionaries once they've killed the heads of staff. They've just taken over the station. It would be like saying that George Washington stopped being a revolutionary the second he kicked the British out of Boston.

Re: revs becoming not revs.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:14 am
by Mothblocks
Anyone who was a revolutionary still is a revolutionary in the eyes of silicons, though I'll never ban you for getting it wrong the first time.

Re: revs becoming not revs.

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 3:49 pm
by NamelessFairy
Former revolutionaries should still be considered revolutionaries in the eyes of silicons.

Headmin Votes:
NamelessFairy: Yes
Dragomagol: Yes
RaveRadbury: Yes