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The headmins were asked to stop "yes"ing eachother because

... every policy thread is <Hideous awful garbage idea> -> <vicious argument> -> headmins say "yes" and then i go back and they were saying yes to a brief conclusion but it looked like they just approved the Cosmodeus Constitution.

Then we go to viewtopic.php?f=33&t=30586 where all three headmins said agree. To a brief conclusion. But it looked like they just approved the Mothblocks Constitution.

I propose that the headmins should vote on the topic of the policy, with their conclusion coming after the vote. If any headmins disagree with the conclusion, their disagreement can be included in the section after the vote if necessary.

They already include their conclusion in those posts anyway, though:

We don't see the need in changing the name of Policy Discussion. The fact that the Policy Discussion rules includes config discussion is included in Policy Discussion Board Rule #4: This board is for discussing administrative policy and rules, including in-game server configuration.

We don't feel the need to rule formally on when admins can call in ERTs. If you feel that the use of an ERT was malicious, you're welcome to open an admin complaint.

If anything, having the conclusion at the top is all you need to read anyway, and having that as the first bit makes it easy enough to read and understand.
You get the relevant ruling and why in one line - whether headmins agree with the original post is irrelevant or not as the conclusion is what's going to be taken and enforced moving forwards, no?

I genuinely don't see how this is an issue, it takes me 5? 10? seconds to read a single conclusion sentence and now I know the policy that the headmins have set down for the specific issue.

There's precedent here, actually. Admin complaints!

Here are head admins posting their action ("Do not uphold"), which is in line with what you (and at this point I) want.

As we said in the ruing of that other thread:

Ultimately what we say for the votes isn't important, just that it's clear we agree.

It's just a stamp of approval for the post that it's attached to. In the case of admin complaints, there isn't as much variety in the answer: it's usually Uphold/Do Not Uphold. Policy rulings are more nuanced, and writing the same conclusion three times isn't adding useful information.