Are temporary gulag sentences IC?

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Are temporary gulag sentences IC?

Post by CPTANT » #667209

So the Security policy says this:
3. For arrested players, timed sentences up to a total of 10 minutes, buckle-cuffing, and stripping, are considered IC issues and are not actionable by admins.

Brig sentences totaling more than 10 minutes can be adminhelped, as can be gulag or perma sentences or a pattern of illegitimate punishment. However, security should refrain from confiscating items not related to any crimes, especially important department-specific items like hard suits. Obvious exceptions to this are things like radio headsets, if players use it to harass security over the radio while being arrested.
I find this a bit vague for temporary gulag sentences with points. It is suggested on the wiki that 1 minute in the brig = 100 gulag points. I would find it weird if someone takes a suggestion from the wiki and suddenly opens themselves up for admin intervention when they choose gulag points instead of the brig timer. It would create a very weird scenario where 10 minutes brig is fine but 100 gulag points is potentially a rule break?

I would therefore like to ask how point 3 of the security policy applies to gulag point sentences.

Ps: If the gulag is broken that is a code issue, please report it on github instead of here.
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Re: Are temporary gulag sentences IC?

Post by Pandarsenic » #667211

If you ahelp all but the most trivial AND unjustified gulag sentences, you will be laughed at

If security is gulaging you without a crime because they want the colorful rocks to make science toys, maybe there's a conversation, otherwise just get your goodies and you'll be out in like 5 minutes.
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Re: Are temporary gulag sentences IC?

Post by RedBaronFlyer » #667295

Pandarsenic wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:23 pm If you ahelp all but the most trivial AND unjustified gulag sentences, you will be laughed at

If security is gulaging you without a crime because they want the colorful rocks to make science toys, maybe there's a conversation, otherwise just get your goodies and you'll be out in like 5 minutes.
Only slightly related, but I've never actually gotten out of the gulag via points because I have no idea how ore redemption works. I kinda wish there was a "HEY MORON HERE'S HOW TO GET POINTS TO GET OUT OF HERE!" book or something.
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Re: Are temporary gulag sentences IC?

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Re: Are temporary gulag sentences IC?

Post by spookuni » #667569

Gulag sentences are a standard tool in security's arsenal for handling crimes of varying durations (being roughly equal to 100 points per minute +1), and outside of excessive or unfounded use the tool is entirely IC. Players can always ahelp the validity of a gulag punishment, but can expect that the majority of (valid) uses will be marked IC.


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