/tg/Station 13

This map has been removed several times already and I think its due again for another removal. Birdshot is extremely unpopular amongst the playerbase and quite frankly, its not hard to see why. The map is a complete and utter mess of a layout, with departments slapped around, separated and mixed with random maints in between all of it. It generally only gets voted in as a prank by players who are done playing for the day and want to make other people suffer on the way out. I don't see any reason why we should keep the map in rotation.

This doesn't seem necessary. It's a decent map that will improve over time, especially with feedback.

Birdshot is designed to be a deathtrap , a mess, and an absolute shithole. That was ALWAYS the point. It OOZES soul.

Is that the only reason people want it gone?

This is one of those minefields where you can't really voice your opinion without someone going on a rant about how much effort map designers put into it. And I get it, Birdshot took a lot of effort...but I personally really hate how its become a map that kills the server pop every time its picked. Its gimmick really isn't something that should've been expected to be long lasting. Plus someone else also opened a thread about this last term and got soundly rejected.

Maybe we should host a map survey? Lowpop maps usually come pretty low though (see kilo station)

No.

E: Actually no, I changed my mind. Let's go back to only Meta. Just eliminate the problem wholesale.

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DaydreamIQ wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 1:01 pm This is one of those minefields where you can't really voice your opinion without someone going on a rant about how much effort map designers put into it. And I get it, Birdshot took a lot of effort...but I personally really hate how its become a map that kills the server pop every time its picked. Its gimmick really isn't something that should've been expected to be long lasting. Plus someone else also opened a thread about this last term and got soundly rejected.

No, the only time this happens is if you act like an asshole about it. Giving criticism about a map is fine, but talking about how the map sucks shit and the mapper is awful for making it is going to get you yelled at.

Also worth noting that Zytolg is working on a major update for the map that reworks engineering to be less of a clusterfuck so I think removing it right now throws out the baby with the bathwater

no
fikou: no
chesh: no