/tg/Station 13

Is it a rule that sentient xenobio shit is treated like a onehumaned AI where your responsible for its actions? Should it be?

From my perspective the situations(a player controlled entity that has explicit orders to obey you) are basically identical. therefore the rules should be identical in how they handle shitlers using it to kill people. Now i can understand their being a slight difference in IC behavior towards the master(namely a less instant lynchmob) but from a rules perspective antagonist status and ordered rule breaking basically are the responsibility of the person giving the order, especially given that the xenobio thing is compelled to obey(and doesn't know its masters antag status).

also xenobio things acting any way antagonistic are valid right?

If a nonantag scientist makes a golem/sentient mob and tells it to go kill people, the scientist is the one getting removed. However unlike an AI, you should follow more the spirit of the order rather than trying to nitpick around words to fuck them over like silicons tend to do because hurr computer logic and all.

What about sentient xenobio Syndiborgs? They still have their laws unless I'm mistaken? Is it to be assumed that *their* definition of Syndicate Agent is the one who granted them sentience?

xenobio can't make syndiborgs

Zilenan91 wrote:xenobio can't make syndiborgs

they can but not directly from gold slime

magicarp/chaos magicarp -> bolt of change -> syndieborg -> sentience potion

Bawhoppennn wrote:

Zilenan91 wrote:xenobio can't make syndiborgs

they can but not directly from gold slime

magicarp/chaos magicarp -> bolt of change -> syndieborg -> sentience potion

what is even the difference between a normal magicarp and a chaos one

A normal magicarp always shoots the same spell, whilst a chaos magicarp shoots a different spell each time. The spells are the same as ones from the staves of chaos, I think - teleportation, fireball, death, resurrection, door creation, animation, change.

Also bolt of nothing.

I'm pretty sure xenobio things are valid if they create problems, yes. As in, it's dickish to kill that space bear just for being a space bear, but the minute it starts fucking shit up it's valid. Like monkeys or slimes, basically.

TheNightingale wrote:A normal magicarp always shoots the same spell, whilst a chaos magicarp shoots a different spell each time. The spells are the same as ones from the staves of chaos, I think - teleportation, fireball, death, resurrection, door creation, animation, change.

Once I was a sentient death magicarp

it, uh, was pretty OP.

Drynwyn wrote:

TheNightingale wrote:A normal magicarp always shoots the same spell, whilst a chaos magicarp shoots a different spell each time. The spells are the same as ones from the staves of chaos, I think - teleportation, fireball, death, resurrection, door creation, animation, change.

Once I was a sentient death magicarp

it, uh, was pretty OP.

I'm not sure if It was you, but once I was a revenant and there was a death magicarp, he came to medbay and killed more than 10 people, even said: "All for you revenant". Good times.