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Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:41 am
by kazeespada
So whenever the AI goes rogue, they always go full easy mode and flood the station with plasma. This guarentees that almost anyone aboard the station is dead and is generally unfun for everyone. On top of that, the borgs are often deployed to stun arm the atmos techs and CE and end their day.
So, I propose we remove the line in the rules that prevents atmos techs from slapping a manual valve on the plasma tank(and other atmos tanks).
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:43 am
by Saegrimr
Why
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:47 am
by kazeespada
Because I shouldn't have to spend all round worrying that I am about to be killed by a rogue AI. And Its just not that feeling of being a traitor target, its the fact that my job poses a threat to AI EZ mode.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:48 am
by Saegrimr
Why are you worried that the AI is rogue?
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:53 am
by Zilenan91
The AI kills literally everyone if it has a brain if it's a traitor.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:55 am
by kazeespada
Because if the AI floods plasma, its guarenteed to kill everyone with little to no counter play. It requires no planning on the AIs part, and it can't be actively be prevented by human players due to the rule.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:59 am
by Shad0vvs
But the second you see plasma you just run into atmos and turn off the pipes/unwrench, and how will you die to plasma, wouldn't you just turn on your o2 mask if your an atmos tech?
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:02 am
by kazeespada
Shad0vvs wrote:But the second you see plasma you just run into atmos and turn off the pipes/unwrench, and how will you die to plasma, wouldn't you just turn on your o2 mask if your an atmos tech?
No, the AI always specifically sends borgs after atmos techs.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:01 am
by Luke Cox
That's a rule? I could have sworn one of the suggestions in the atmos guide on the wiki is to AI-proof atmos
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:25 am
by Atlanta-Ned
kazeespada wrote:So whenever the AI goes rogue, they always go full easy mode and flood the station with plasma. This guarentees that almost anyone aboard the station is dead and is generally unfun for everyone. On top of that, the borgs are often deployed to stun arm the atmos techs and CE and end their day.
So, I propose we remove the line in the rules that prevents atmos techs from slapping a manual valve on the plasma tank(and other atmos tanks).
There will never be a reversal of this policy, period. If you're that worried about the AI flooding plasma then you're playing the game the wrong way.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:19 am
by ShadowDimentio
B-but what if I lose?
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:03 am
by kazeespada
Atlanta-Ned wrote:kazeespada wrote:So whenever the AI goes rogue, they always go full easy mode and flood the station with plasma. This guarentees that almost anyone aboard the station is dead and is generally unfun for everyone. On top of that, the borgs are often deployed to stun arm the atmos techs and CE and end their day.
So, I propose we remove the line in the rules that prevents atmos techs from slapping a manual valve on the plasma tank(and other atmos tanks).
There will never be a reversal of this policy, period. If you're that worried about the AI flooding plasma then you're playing the game the wrong way.
Literally the first thing an AI did during a meme round as soon as it could was flood plasma.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:40 am
by TechnoAlchemist
Don't go into the halls if you don't wanna burn to death or locate one of the many firesuits
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:47 am
by ShadowDimentio
But guais, AI flooding fire requires you to counterplay. You know what else required counterplay? Literally everything else Secborgs! I rest my case. Remove AI 20XX, too good, everyone hates it
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:05 am
by tedward1337
this is fucking stupid
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:34 am
by imblyings
IC it makes complete sense. If we had to roleplay, it's such a glaring OHS violation each round should be roleplayed as the captain finding out about this heinous lack of safety onboard a fragile space station and rectifying it with new procedures and policies. There's literally no reason for a highly toxic and flammable gas to be hooked up to the same air distribution system that sends breathing air around a space station at all, unless you come up with some headcanon but that's all it'll ever be, headcanon.
We still keep it though, for gameplay mechanic reasons.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:35 am
by Scott
What if we kept every crew member in a 1x1 cell on board of an emergency shuttle since the beginning of the round until it ends? That way nobody loses, except those pesky antags.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:01 am
by Anonmare
imblyings wrote:IC it makes complete sense. If we had to roleplay, it's such a glaring OHS violation each round should be roleplayed as the captain finding out about this heinous lack of safety onboard a fragile space station and rectifying it with new procedures and policies. There's literally no reason for a highly toxic and flammable gas to be hooked up to the same air distribution system that sends breathing air around a space station at all, unless you come up with some headcanon but that's all it'll ever be, headcanon.
We still keep it though, for gameplay mechanic reasons.
>Centcom
>Following Health & Safety procedures
You're talking about a company that's too cheap to put sprinklers on board their highly advanced space station and uses a blackhole/energy hole for their power needs when solar panels supply enough power to run the station without trouble.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:50 am
by CPTANT
tedward1337 wrote:this is fucking stupid
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:08 am
by Munchlax
literally autism the thread
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:29 am
by CPTANT
geilebeer wrote:literally autism the thread
The thread is literally "I want to metagame because if I don't metagame I die"
Counterplaying plasmaflood is easy enough.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:19 pm
by imblyings
Anonmare wrote:>Centcom
>Following Health & Safety procedures
You're talking about a company that's too cheap to put sprinklers on board their highly advanced space station and uses a blackhole/energy hole for their power needs when solar panels supply enough power to run the station without trouble.
it's true, the station has a dozen million inconsistencies that reduce the station to a running sitcom on how things shouldn't be if I think too hard about it.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:24 pm
by Aloraydrel
Some high quality memes going on over here
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:44 pm
by kazeespada
More like everyone dies if i dont metagame.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:45 pm
by imblyings
inconsistencies like how people get away with neon green hair and dark purple beards
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:45 pm
by lzimann
Let's also make all borgs not sync'd to the AI round start, what if the AI is malfunctioning?
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:06 pm
by Atlanta-Ned
lzimann wrote:Let's also make all borgs not sync'd to the AI round start, what if the AI is malfunctioning?
UnFunFact™: I got dunked by this two rounds in a row once. It's actually super lame and uncool to build unlinked borgs fnr.
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:12 pm
by CPTANT
kazeespada wrote:More like everyone dies if i dont metagame.
Wouldn't want anything actually capable of hurting the crew in the game, now would we?
Re: Allow Atmos Techs to disable plasma
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:28 pm
by imblyings
shit thread, I've memed at aloray and I don't want him memeing me back so I'm going to be a dirty cheater and lock this thread