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Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:07 pm
by J_Madison
Do they follow their creator's commands?
This includes spiders. It's shitty as fuck to spawn spiders, which lays eggs, then once that egg hatches that spider that came from the egg just validkills you because he's technically an antag.
edit; and doesn't technically need to follow your orders.

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:19 pm
by Saegrimr
Ahelp because that's retarded and i'd gladly ban that spider under Rule 1.

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:25 pm
by J_Madison
Saegrimr wrote:Ahelp because that's retarded and i'd gladly ban that spider under Rule 1.
I did; Shaps told me he wouldn't be doing anything about it and told me to make a thread and talk to headmins.

I'd give you a ckey, but he wouldn't give me one when I asked.

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:29 pm
by Knaive
Say you join the server mid-round and a prompt asking if you want to be a spider pops up. You hit yes and you wake up alone, no other spiders around and no memories telling you 'so and so said this or do that.' How would you be able to justify banning someone who had no legitimate knowledge of those events in the first place?

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:51 pm
by J_Madison
why did they go around attacking people in the first place? not to mention the spider that created them told him not to.

it's more of a "don't validhunt everything just cause" if you don't know what is your orders.

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:52 pm
by Saegrimr
Knaive wrote:Say you join the server mid-round and a prompt asking if you want to be a spider pops up. You hit yes and you wake up alone, no other spiders around and no memories telling you 'so and so said this or do that.' How would you be able to justify banning someone who had no legitimate knowledge of those events in the first place?
That's fine.

Something like what was described about attacking other spiders because LEL ANTAG VALID is shit.
We ban xenomorphs for the same thing, it should be common sense but this is /tg/.

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 8:57 pm
by lumipharon
This is a common sense thing.

There is no reason to be obligated to obey your momma spider unless explicitly told so, but killing them fnr is simply rule 1 faggotry.

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:34 pm
by Cheimon
lumipharon wrote:This is a common sense thing.

There is no reason to be obligated to obey your momma spider unless explicitly told so, but killing them fnr is simply rule 1 faggotry.
I think he's talking about the spider killing lots of humans, not the other spiders, as the prime concern.

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 9:55 pm
by oranges
this doesn't even need a ruling, just leave it up to the admin who enforces it at the time

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:14 pm
by J_Madison
oranges wrote:this doesn't even need a ruling, just leave it up to the admin who enforces it at the time
what is this rng on admins now. damn oranges you're killing me. rng killed robustin's parents.

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 11:20 am
by lumipharon
Cheimon wrote:
lumipharon wrote:This is a common sense thing.

There is no reason to be obligated to obey your momma spider unless explicitly told so, but killing them fnr is simply rule 1 faggotry.
I think he's talking about the spider killing lots of humans, not the other spiders, as the prime concern.
Oh, player created mobs?

Well if an ordinary giant killer spider will murder you on sight, why would the one you spawn in science be any different?

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 2:30 pm
by Saegrimr
lumipharon wrote:Well if an ordinary giant killer spider will murder you on sight, why would the one you spawn in science be any different?
Depending on the method used to spawn it, theres big text telling you to not be a fuckface, follow your master, or nothing at all (which basically means go be an asshole spider)

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Mon May 16, 2016 7:15 pm
by Not-Dorsidarf
Anyone creating sentient nurse spiders deserves absolutely anything they get.

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 1:25 am
by Zilenan91
The eggs have no perogative to follow the orders of some smelly human. They should gladly kill him and make eggs from his corpse to propagate the species.

Re: Sentient mobs created by sentient mobs

Posted: Tue May 17, 2016 1:27 am
by lumipharon
Saegrimr wrote:
lumipharon wrote:Well if an ordinary giant killer spider will murder you on sight, why would the one you spawn in science be any different?
Depending on the method used to spawn it, theres big text telling you to not be a fuckface, follow your master, or nothing at all (which basically means go be an asshole spider)
I know, see my earlier post.