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Posted: **Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:42 pm**

Bottom post of the previous page:

Sligneris wrote:Doesn't pepperspray kinda already stun people, forcing them to drop things?

If it does, I haven't noticed. The effects seem very minor. I got peppersprayed a few rounds ago as an assistant, and it only slightly affected me. Mostly, I just think that the flash/pepperspray are not very useful for Sec, and should be made more effective so officers don't just taser+cuff people. Making them more useful would encourage more flexible/interesting Sec approaches.

Posted: **Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:25 pm**

>Flash isn't useful
Spessman, I...

Posted: **Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:29 pm**

Even if you're under the spray effect, it only checks when it enters the tile, so it might pass over you without hitting you if you're moving fast enough. Plus, any form of glasses gives immunity.

Posted: **Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:43 pm**

Pepperspray could use a little buff. It's not as though there isn't an easy hard counter to be found in gasmasks (they even help against tear gas)

Posted: **Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:41 am**

Toss some cable coils and some shards on a mop and make a mop spear.
All the cleaning potential of a mop and all the combat potential of a spear.

What if signalers activated whenever you were stunned?
Demand security to meet your demands seconds before you get shot anyway.

Posted: **Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:08 pm**

The only use I've ever found for pepper spray is pissing off uppity greyshit prisoners as the warden.

Posted: **Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:54 pm**

Pepperspray is like a ranged flash but more statyfying

Posted: **Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:04 pm**

At the very least, it would benefit if it operated more like smoke and less like a spray. For example, if you could spray it at somone and cause them to inhale it, it should have the same effect as if they weren't wearing any protection. I've never seen anyone actually use it for any purpose beyond screwing with prisoners. To be fair, though, flashes are more useful than I give them credit. I wish pepperspray actually had a reason to be standard sec equipment.

Posted: **Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:05 pm**

Gasmask nerf, they only work for full face protection when internals are on, and so become stronger in that regard that you inhale only slightly less gas at once if you cover your face with a inactive gasmask or a bandana, sechailer etc.

Posted: **Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:36 am**

Eh flashes are always a mid solution for double eswords with no face/eye protectiom when you dont want come to close with a flash

Posted: **Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:59 am**

Simple mobs should get a action button to Stop Pulling. It gets annoying having to go and use the IC tab each time.

Posted: **Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:17 am**

darkpaladin109 wrote:Simple mobs should get a action button to Stop Pulling. It gets annoying having to go and use the IC tab each time.

Just press Delete

Posted: **Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:28 pm**

PKPenguin321 wrote:
Sligneris wrote:Give player ash drakes the ability to switch to small sprites on their end, much like the alien queen can.

Since ash drake blood can already transform you into a specific appearance of a red ash lizard, we can use that ash lizard sprite to represent the ash drake in 1x1 scale.
I actually coded the queen thing and was thinking about doing the drake thing but didn't wanna fuck with sprites, if you can post a .dmi I'll hook you up

Code: Select all

if(1)
	user << "<span class='danger'>Your appearence morphs to that of a very small humanoid ash dragon! You get to look like a freak without the cool abilities.</span>"
	H.dna.features = list("mcolor" = "A02720", "tail_lizard" = "Dark Tiger", "tail_human" = "None", "snout" = "Sharp", "horns" = "Curled", "ears" = "None", "wings" = "None", "frills" = "None", "spines" = "Long", "body_markings" = "Dark Tiger Body", "legs" = "Digitigrade Legs")
	H.eye_color = "fee5a3"
	H.set_species(/datum/species/lizard)

Here's the code used for the lizard appearance, I might try getting the sprites in-game.

Posted: **Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:02 pm**

darkpaladin109 wrote:Simple mobs should get a action button to Stop Pulling. It gets annoying having to go and use the IC tab each time.

I remember thinking this and then finding out there's some super obvious way to stop pulling that made me feel dumb, but I still agree

Posted: **Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:10 pm**

I just type the Stop-Pulling verb.

Or rather, I type "Stop" hit space and auto-complete it

Posted: **Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:50 pm**

Sligneris wrote:
darkpaladin109 wrote:Simple mobs should get a action button to Stop Pulling. It gets annoying having to go and use the IC tab each time.
Just press Delete

Posted: **Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:15 am**

Ctrl + Clik also pulls or stops pulling.

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:53 pm**

Boomerang: improvised throwing weapon made from metal. Deals 10 brute damage on hit and then flies back to where it was thrown from. Activate throwing again if you want to catch it otherwise it'll just hit you and hurt you as well.

Traitors can get a special one that's razor sharp and does 40 brute damage. It can also severe limbs and being a sharp object, has a chance to embed. Like the normal boomerang it can be caught after being thrown but make sure you don't stupidly run into its return path with throw intent off and accidentally decapitate yourself like a fucking idiot.

Supplementary video:
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*flip

Posted: **Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:54 pm**

Jacough wrote:Boomerang: decapitate yourself like a fucking idiot.

Sold

Posted: **Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:07 am**

Make it so you can pick up shotgun shells with boxes like you can with ore satchels

Posted: **Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:43 pm**

AI core display preferences would be nice to have in character setup.

Posted: **Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:15 pm**

Add a verb that shows a list of available ghost roles. We already have notices for new lavaland eggs/shells but these notices disappear rather fast and don't help anyone who died after the notice has come and gone. Would be nice if available ghost roles could just be viewed as a list. Or at least, have a verb that shows a list of available/unclaimed ghost roles or ghost role spawning areas. Its not exactly entertaining or worth the annoyance to have to scan all of lavaland for whichever mob spawning area was created this time.

Posted: **Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:58 pm**

They're in the orbit list

Posted: **Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:02 pm**

XDTM wrote:They're in the orbit list

If they are, they're so burried in all of the other junk on the orbit list (especially in mid-high/high pop times.

Posted: **Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:03 pm**

cedarbridge wrote:
XDTM wrote:They're in the orbit list
If they are, they're so burried in all of the other junk on the orbit list (especially in mid-high/high pop times.

They are all at the very bottom of the list.

Posted: **Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:04 pm**

They're at the bottom of everything else, but they're all together and pretty easy to tell from normal orbit list items

Posted: **Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:33 pm**

for the love of all that is holy let drones throw shit again
getting stuck in space because you bumped into a girder that you were pushing and that stopped you despite going in exactly the same direction as you is grade a bullshit

Posted: **Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:57 pm**

which is why you always carry an rcd or metal/rods as a drone

Posted: **Thu Mar 09, 2017 7:09 pm**

XDTM wrote:They're in the orbit list

Positronic brains definitely aren't, and not sure if golem shells are.

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:09 am**

Positronic brains indeed aren't. The orbit list contains only stuff that starts on the map as a ghost role plus golem shells, since they're a variation of those.

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:34 am**

I'd like it if swarmer shells, posibrains, golem runes and everything like that had a place on the orbit list. It's annoying to have to manually scrape the station for the one swarmer shell in the backend of maint somewhere or the posibrain under 33 different and separate objects

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:13 am**

Anonmare wrote:I'd like it if swarmer shells, posibrains, golem runes and everything like that had a place on the orbit list. It's annoying to have to manually scrape the station for the one swarmer shell in the backend of maint somewhere or the posibrain under 33 different and separate objects

Just press a numerical key and it'll take it to them, same as camera stations. If you clean up the orbit list, dividing up the camera lists into groups would also be helpful.

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:36 pm**

Sledgehammer for the execution chamber. Makes for a terrible melee weapon because it requires a windup before you can swing it and if you miss it staggers you, leaving you stuck in place for a second but great for fulfilling your DF dreams of being a hammerer. Using it on someone buckled to a bed will pulp their head and a blow to the head while they're cuffed to a chair will send their head flying across the room.

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:37 pm**

Jacough wrote:Sledgehammer for the execution chamber. Makes for a terrible melee weapon because it requires a windup before you can swing it and if you miss it staggers you, leaving you stuck in place for a second but great for fulfilling your DF dreams of being a hammerer. Using it on someone buckled to a bed will pulp their head and a blow to the head while they're cuffed to a chair will send their head flying across the room.

would you kindly give the captain a golf club

Posted: **Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:40 pm**

Jaws of life when used on the mouth should crush heads like a melon.

Posted: **Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:46 am**

Speaking of decapitation, have it so that if someone managed to get decapitated while standing their corpse remains upright and walks around aimlessly like a simple mob for a couple of seconds before it collapses for a bit of additional horror. If someone gets decapitated while knocked down but still alive have their body jitter to give the impression of it writhing and spasming for a few seconds.

Posted: **Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:32 pm**

do you jacough to this?

Posted: **Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:50 pm**

DemonFiren wrote:do you jacough to this?

No but the idea of walking through maint only to hear the loud BZZZ BZZZZ BZZZ of someone with a dual esword and then seeing a headless corpse come out of nowhere and stumble into you sounds creepy as hell which is perfect. More spooky shit's always good

Posted: **Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:54 am**

Magical Flute for wizards that makes them play a melody that summons golems to fight for them. They can not move while playing, and the golems break down if they stop playing. To balance being stuck in one position, they can cast blink or get an extra passive 50℅ dodge while playing the flute.

Posted: **Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:45 pm**

Combat use for alcohol:
Once you each a certain threshold with alcohol, it sort of has a numbing effect. You'll take reduced damage and won't be affected by damage slow down as much. The catch is that as it works its way out of your system, you'll start taking back all the damage that it initially blocked as the numbing effect wears off.

On top of that, reaching this threshold affects your punches as well. You hit much harder, dealing more damage with a higher chance of knocking them down but at the cost of missing more often due to your swings being slow and awkward.

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:10 am**

Make the temp gun unblockable by d. Eswords or e shields

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:52 am**

calzilla1 wrote:Make the temp gun unblockable by d. Eswords or e shields

temp gun should be buffed in every way possible

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:28 am**

Give perma an emergency internals box. The window gets breached constantly.

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:32 am**

You mean after you break it trying to escape right

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:37 am**

Give them an emergency internals trolley that's just a canister with a bunch of masks attached so the prisoners all have to crowd around it to breathe and fight each other for the limited number of masks

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:23 am**

Screemonster wrote:Give them an emergency internals trolley that's just a canister with a bunch of masks attached so the prisoners all have to crowd around it to breathe and fight each other for the limited number of masks

It's times like this when I wish I was a coder

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:30 am**

Screemonster wrote:Give them an emergency internals trolley that's just a canister with a bunch of masks attached so the prisoners all have to crowd around it to breathe and fight each other for the limited number of masks

Better idea imo

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:36 am**

They'd abuse it to ride it out of there using the soda maker's hacked coffee option, you can't (or you'd need to put it static on the floor somewhere so 10 prisoners fight for 3 squares of breathable space attached to IV air masks)

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:49 am**

calzilla1 wrote:Make the temp gun unblockable by d. Eswords or e shields

The Temp Gun is not fully blocked by duel energy sword, its subject to the same block rule but its not treated as a laser projectile.

Posted: **Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:24 pm**

Luke Cox wrote:Give perma an emergency internals box. The window gets breached constantly.

Fuck em, tell the criminal scum to hold their breath while they're in the rec area. They're just going to rot in there anyway.

Posted: **Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:03 am**

Jacough wrote:
Luke Cox wrote:Give perma an emergency internals box. The window gets breached constantly.
Fuck em, tell the criminal scum to hold their breath while they're in the rec area. They're just going to rot in there anyway.

Eh, if I dump them in perma it's because I like them enough to not kill them, or I'm not 100% sure they're guilty

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